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Bumping these high tier paints up.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11201019 - 1 Add for 2 Keys + 2 Refined
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10968614 - Offer of 2 Keys + 1 Refined, rejected offer of 2 Keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11231469 - Sold 2 White paints at 2 Keys + 2 Refined
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10692934 - Out of stock at 2 Keys + 2 Refined
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11286506 - Offer of 12 Refined, way over 2 Keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10779041 - Some adds at 2 Keys + 2.66 Refined
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10115958 - Ton of adds at 2 Keys + 1 Refined, also I confirmed that yes, this is the cheapest on outpost
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10915173 - 1 Add at 2.5 Keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10814426 - Adds at 2 Keys + 3 Refined
Anyways, 2.2 Keys for this paint is an easy sell. It is also possible to sell for 2.4 Keys, but it definitely takes a while.
Nice proof man! You have my vote, count on it.
UpVote! :D
Hm, idk, staying neutral
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11231383 - sold 2 for 2 keys each
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11203610 - 2 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11277074 - 2 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11273881 - 2.1 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11108603 - 2.2 keys
http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9493866 - 2.2 keys
Still quite a few sellers in the current range. And I'm sure there are a lot of successful buyers at less than that.
Fairly strong counter proof
Did a bit of digging...
First link of buyers are selling for higher:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11294845
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11261783
Same with second link...
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11286506
2.2 Keys is in the range, so I'm not sure how that it counter-proof...
First 2.2 Key link hasn't been bumped in 6 Days. Other one sold, which thanks for the proof.
The 2.1 Keys hasn't been bumped in 20 hours.
So, you have 2 quick sellers, and their buyers are already selling for higher, which says a lot. One 2.2 Keys seller hasn't been bumped in 6 days, and the other one sold for 2.2 Keys, which is in my range, while the 2.1 Keys hasn't been bumped in the last 20 hours.
I'm just giving proof. We are not in the business of giving subjective evaluations of what is a quicksell and what is not. If multiple sellers are willing to sell at 2-2.2, then objectively, that must be factored in. Saying it's a quicksell is a subjective evaluation, and we don't base prices off what we think. We base prices off of what items are actually bought and sold for.
Here is some more data: http://trade.tf/price/5039/6 - 2-2.1 keys right now
Trade.tf is not considered valid proof.
I think I have also said that 2.2 Keys is in my suggested, so why you are showing me links at 2.2 Keys is beyond me. The sellers at 2 Keys are bought instantly, and then those buyers are selling for higher.
I'm using trade.tf as an adjunct, not as proof by itself.
Trade.tf is agreeing with his other proof, so is a valid corollary
I went onto backpack.tf forum and was informed that you may not use trade.tf as proof but you may use the links from the good deals section and places like that.
Looking at the graph it went to a 2.2 - 2.4 range for 9 days (19th to 28th) and now it seems to be coming down. Is it temporary or a trend, only the future will tell, however I believe it's going to settle at the current range (2.0 - 2.2 keys).
Logically it seems there was more demand for paint for the new hats initially (which were released on 19th, exactly when the paint price went up on trade.tf), so the price increased.
Now those hats are dropping considerably in value. So most likely the demand for the paint is dropping and the value is going back to its original range.
So this suggestion would have been good on the 19th basically when trade.tf reported the climb in value, now the wave has passed and basically this suggestion would probably doing the opposite of what the market is doing.
Before this is approved it should be considered that paints would be temporarily in demand with the release of the robo hats but would comeback to a normal level. Its price is tied to the mann store remember.
all 2 keys & 2.2 links sold out within 6 hours
http://puu.sh/34Edr.png
http://puu.sh/34EeM.png
Oh, you....
sup
Did you really buy all of them out yourself?
nvm: misread your links. I thought you bought them.
Thanks for the proof.....??
Hope this passes, upvote
No fair, I was going to suggest this today :<
Upvote, the old price range is outdated.
Additional Proof:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9956170 - Offers of 2 Keys + 2 Refined
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9478032 - Recent add for 2 Keys + 3 Refined
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11273616 - Offer of 11 Refined
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/2990647 - Offer of 13.11 Refined, or about 2.4 Keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10040211 - Offer of 2 Keys + 1 Refined
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11049399 - Adds for 2 Keys + 2 Refined
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10063641 - Offer of 2 Robo Keys, easily 2.4 Keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9899757 - Add for 2 Keys + 2 Refined
Also...
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10689364 - Sold for 3 Keys
Okay, I'll do the same. There are a ton at 2.2 that I'm not even going to include:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11319996 - 2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11318896 - 2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11309292 - 2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11308580 - 2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11277074 - 2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11274995 - 2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11313103 - 2.1
Andy bought 2, selling for higher: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11319847
Proof: http://puu.sh/34Edr.png
http://puu.sh/34EeM.png
Indie bought some as well. Sold them for 2 Keys + 2 Refined: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11286506
Same with 4th link: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11308684
Bottom link appears to be unsold... Bought by Michael, a mod on here, who is re selling for higher: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9693922
The third link is a self admit person who is cashing out.
So you have 6 links of sellers that are sold within an hour, and the buyers are re selling for higher, while all my links I have shown at people selling for higher at 2 Keys have sold...
So I now have 11 links in the past 2 days below your suggested range. Yes, they sell quick, but this is paint and low end of a range paint sellers are SUPPOSED to sell quickly.
My point isn't that they sell quick, but that they sell quick and the buyers are re selling for higher prices, AND they are being bought at those higher prices.
Here is some more proof:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11288628 - 2.4
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11281189 - 2.2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11273616 - 2.4
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11049399 - 2.4
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11294845 - 2.2
Your just giving proof that the buyers are having a hard time reselling. Only 1 or 2 of those have actually sold. In any case, if you are including 2.4 in the range, you need to include 2 as well. Perhaps 2-2.4 would be better.
ALL of those 2.2's are sold and the 2.4 sellers are either sold out or have adds.
Edit: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11049399 somehow doesn't have any adds out of those 3.
Supporting this, but I believe black paint should be adjusted to the same price then. The two have almost always been the exact same price
I already changed the Black paint, but I'm guessing White paint is more desired.
lol. black sells faster at higher prices. you just didn't ask me for all of my sold's when you did the black upgrade. (suck my 2.6 sales on your 2.2 price) ;)
o and my friend sells white at lower than I put up black and sells at about the same speed. He was selling at 2.26 but is now 2.4 due to demand versus what he can buy for.
Upvoted, legitmate proof.
Perhps 2-2.4 would be better? They seem to sell at 2 keys very fast, but also do sell at 2.4.
By very fast you mean like 30 minutes to an hour max for 2 keys flat? How are you defining a "quicksell" nowadays Mr. Bucket.
There's no denying they sell extremely fast, but there are quite a decent amount for that price.
please refer me to where and I will buy all of them ;)
Edit: 2 keys 1 reclaim gone in <10 minutes http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11380616
By "fast", he probably means instant: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10964990
lol I actually added you to start with because I thought that was a selling post. I'm glad at least one mod experiences what I do when trading white/black paint.
edit: also feel free to post your experiences from selling Black paint at 2.6 on that suggestion
they sell instantly at 2 keys http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11385630#/38332819
If Price on Paint increase, then why no one buy my white bill?
bills are cancer