Suggestion: Non-Craftable Robo Community Crate Key at 1.2 keys

I understand some of mine might be unsold (might I am not sure atm) but we all know people like cheaper prices also, and soon they will get offers because people look for the cheapest price to buy

SO LET'S KICK THIS UP A NOTCH

NOT ENOUGH? TELL ME TO ADD MORE THEN I WILL!

You've posted this same thing about 7 times. For your proof you need to show more people who have sold for this new price.

I kept canceling because I keep making a mistake on the price

Well you have 2 trades up currently. I would close one of them

2 suggestions up simultaneously for robocrate keys is fair enough - the current system is a bit awkward like that. If you want to change one of them, you should have sufficient "proof" to prove the other.

Plus on a price suggestion you must show proof of them being sold at 1.2

by trades do you mean suggestion?

COUNTERPROOF

You have no valid unsold links to disprove 1.4 keys and 1.2 keys is already in the range.

OLD PROOF: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10902964 1 key Quickbuyer below your range

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10880724 1 key Quickbuyer below your range

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11216686 6 robo for 7 normal

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11216835 1 key+1 rec Quickbuyer below your range

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11207348 1 key Quickbuyer below your range

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10908693 1 key+1 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11171063 1 key Quickbuyer below your range

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10914273 1 key Quickbuyer below your range

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10934311 1 key+1 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11213520 1 key+1 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11156758 1 key+1 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11211418 1 key+1 ref

NEW PROOF: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11246856 1 key+ 1 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11102510 BOUGHT 69 FOR 1 key+1 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11265293 1.2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11269973 1 key 1 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11283577 1 key 1 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11223335 1 key 1 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11281282 7:8 (1.87 keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11275111#/38117085 1 key 1 ref

UNSOLDS FOR OVER 1.2 KEYS:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11257723 Above the current range

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11294977 1.2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11291372 8 hours

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10935563 Above the current range

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11288391 12 hours

You obviously don't read well

he reads fine. this is legitimate counterproof.

not really, ther eis no reason for this to be above regular robo am i right?

You obviously didn't read any comments

I did, don't worry about that. He has genuine counter, your proof is very weak, actually. It doesn't support your suggestion.

my proof is very strong actually

no your proof is weak, you should provide proof of them not being sold at 1.2-1.4 (excluding 1.2 exactly but everything between), but instead you posted links of them being sold at 1.2-1.4, thus you provided your own counterproof.

sold 7 @ 1.2 keys within 2 hours

screenshot: http://imgur.com/qUyS3d2

trade: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11328721

make of it what you will, im upvoting this

Edit: that crates where free because he wanted to unbox

This supports the current range in my opinion, since you were able to sell them for 1.2 veryf ast

Why does uncraft require a price? It doesn't.

dunno, a guy just started a price for it, so it got a price. I might as well make it equal to normal robokeys instead of people being confused.

Huh. Admins should probably remove that. Weird.

agreed man

All robo keys bought from the store are uncraftable. The only ones that aren't, are ones obtained from the randomly gifted ones. So to leave uncraftable ones unpriced would be stupid and lead to inaccurate bp values, among other things.

Completely forgot about BP values. Makes sense now.

should make it 1.1-1.2

very easy to buy for key +.44

I will make the range 1.1-1.2 after this :)

are you just gonna keep trying to lower this? there are trades going on above your 1.2 so 1.1-1.2 won't get accepted either.

all Want buy lower price.. Selling minimum 1,1ref so???? Maybe STOP spawning

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Posted 2 days ago by ★ HeavyLord

Don't include quick buyers, they are invalid proof.

Which ones are quickbuyers? Tell me please

Any under the current range.

Firstly, please please please just stop spamming, it's getting on our nerves.

Secondly, 1.2 keys flat is a bad suggestion: even your proof shows that there should be a range.

Thirdly, downvote.

Fourthly, once again.

I will make it a range after this, I want to make it to people's needs

So even you think that a range is correct and, hence, a flat price is wrong? If so, then this suggestion will not succeed. Chances are you're tipping the mods over the edge and will get banned soon - please don't submit yet another suggestion after this one is closed. For the love of Gaben.

I can make whatever suggestions I want to make. It always have more than 65% and for sure that is what most people want.

You won't if you're banned. Touche

And how many times do we have to tell you, backpack.tf is NOT a democracy. Having positive votes does not mean that your suggestion will be accepted - and guess what? They weren't! Seriously, I'm gonna go as far as saying there's more chance of Half Life 3, Portal 3, and TF3 being simultaneously released 3 days ago than your suggestions being accepted purely on votes and nothing else.

Let's bet on it, which one will go first, the TF3 or my suggestion. Deal? I can bet you 3 refined metals

Backpack.tf ain't a casino, kid.

then don't say any kinds of predictions or what you think will happen fyi I am a teenager not a kid

you can also stop disliking my comments

I don't normally comment here, but you are obviously new.

The admins (Or mods, I believe.) decide when a price is accepted. They don't seem to care about votes, just read the comments to see whether to accept or deny. I've seen key suggestions passed with -200 votes, and denied with 150+.

No, why would an admin accept this suggestion if its wrong

you just want free rep... resuggest for a range now

downvote .

Sold above 1.2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11098917 1.25 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11201193 1 key+1.33 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11219498 1 key+1.33 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11166186 1 key+1.33 ref, offer of 6.66 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11088577 6.77 ref (~1.3 keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11237261 1.3 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11233585 1 key+1.66 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11244927 1 key+1.66 ref Check the item history

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11146197 1 key+1.77 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11022384 ~1.4 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11134283 1 key+1.66 ref and 1 key+2 ref in comments

http://i.imgur.com/EfK3W3e.png 1 key+2 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11201172 1 key+2 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10996189 1 key+2 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10970892 1 key+2 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11164804 1.5 keys

I have more proof sir

Having a bunch of mediocre proof isn't better than having a few things of solid proof.

Read my counterproof. Most of your links aren't that great. Mine are more filtered out and solid.

You obviously didn't read

Didn't read what?

i like how the links are all over 3 days old. hype is dead. no one wants to pay a lot for it anymore.

My trade: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11134283

Sold 5 for 1 key 2 ref, 3 days ago.

Sold 6 for 1 key 1 ref 2 rec, today.

do you know when will the admin see this?

http://bazaar.tf/trade/240521 1.2 keys

http://bazaar.tf/trade/239715 1.2 keys

http://bazaar.tf/trade/238445 1.2 keys

http://bazaar.tf/trade/235392 1.2 keys

http://bazaar.tf/trade/240034 1.2 keys

http://bazaar.tf/trade/239749 1.2 keys

http://bazaar.tf/trade/238902 1.2 keys

All within the current range.

Ok, but you still haven't proved that 1.4 is impossible

I put in UNSOLDS

i only see ones above current range or solds in the UNSOLDS section, care to explain?

As I pointed out, all of your "unsolds" are invalid

It was so hard to sell mine. Upvote.

Just bought 5 at 1key + 1 rec. He would have sold me 7 but I didn't have the metal for it. (check the trade history)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11300194

Why is this still up?... counter is given, op's 'proof' shows that people buy for 1.2 keys, his unsolds is above current range (ie weak proof), counter shows that people still buy for 1.4 keys.

why would I have more than 50% of the votes then?

Hmmm i was originally a downvote, but since it has been a few days ill go netural now...since it might be correct as keys have been falling :S

I personally think that normal key price should go back to 2.33 ref

Lol key prices will never go back to 2.33 refs thanks to valve =_=

Before carders as well as other countless ways provided the market with cheap keys (1.2$) , since they have been cracking down on them and essentially devaluing metal (why would you craft now a day??).

Metal is free, you play the game you get metal, keys cost 2.5$ from the shop. Their "upgrade to premium" made idlers alot more effective as you dont need a credit card to trade, people that use sandbox to get a weekly 30+ ref dont care about how much they are paying for keys, they buy keys and sell for money.

The steam market is also a reason as for why keys have been going up as alot of people just sell there instead of keeping it in the market, and people dont use refine to buy it.

at least not 5 ref :( too expensive man

again votes on promos mean nothing, open a suggestion making buds worth 2 ref, you dont have any proof but people will still upvote because they are biased.

HeavyLord didn't show great proof, but NOW this is the right price. It wasn't 2 days ago, but now hype is dying down.

There are too many sellers for ~1.2 keys to keep this a range.

Classifieds will speak for themselves

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/5636/600/0

Selling ~1.1 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11326797 6 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11354223 6 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11356778 key+0.66 ref (x20)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11348971 6:7

Selling ~1.2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11337530 key+ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11357138 key+ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11283211 key+ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11336010 key+ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11328645 key+ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11296932 key+ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11206345 6.33 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11356889 6.33 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11285704 1.2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11354174 5:6

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11323429 6.66 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11339658 key+1.33 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11200489 4:5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11251249 4:5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11301288 4:5

Not sold ~1.3 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11173639 6 days (3:4)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11233585 4 days (key+1.66 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11234088 4 days (7 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11351605 <1 day (3:4)

Not sold ~1.4 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11108692 1 week

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11236316 4 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11227043 4 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11267160 3 days (26 views)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11285593 2 days, added

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11328197 <1 day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11331012 <1 day

2nd link of 1.3 keys sold some

1.4 keys:

1st link sold one

5 th link has an "add"

Yeah some trades will happen above and below the range, but the plethora of sellers at 1.2 keys necessitates a change in the price. I, myself, have provided links of counterproof above, but they are all pretty much non-relevant now. Who knows how long ago the 1st 1.4 key seller sold it (and he still has another unsold).

Just take a look at this:

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/5636/600/0

soon this will become a key and robocrate prices will go up

Counterproof: http://puu.sh/36fbw.jpg

Just while I was reading this awful suggestion's comments I got an add for 1.5