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Since buds have been bouncing back from the crash, I've been seeing more and more people willing to sell for the lower end of the current price for max's. From personal experience it took me almost 2 weeks to sell mine close to the 2.4 range. Here's some proof of people readily willing to sell for the lower end and some unsold for the 2.4 range. I believe they are being sold for 2.2 very commonly so I think a 2.2 flat price is justifiable for now until further changes are warranted.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11046762
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11247210
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11121500
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11284644
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11294523
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11319294 - 52 Key b/o
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11219201 - 2.2 b/o
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11194913
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11295032
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11105348
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11304183
Unsolds
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11079479 - unsold over 2.4
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10614459
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11123551 - unsold for a week
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10997953 - highest offer of 50 keys after 1 week
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11225624
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10678618 - unsold for a little over 2.2, 3 week post
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11209956 - unsold for a little over 2.2, 4 day old post
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11200258 - unsold for over 2.2, 4 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11013534 - unsold for a little over 2.2, 1 week old post
Any additional proofs you may want contribute would be greatly appreciated. I will oblige with any further proof if needed.
a bit more proof as I go along
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11097131 - unsold for a week over 2.2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11332393 - selling for 54 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11203175 - unsold for 2.4, 4 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11307554 - willing to sell for 2.2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11224166 - willing to sell for 2.2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10678618 - look like this guy's been trying to sell his for over 2.4 for quite some time
and some more
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11247905 - young but good to keep note of, selling for 2 buds + 10 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11344193 - another very young post but again good to keep note of, B/O of 2.4
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11192854 - unsold for 5 days, around 2.3 at the time
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11331609 - young trade at 2 buds + 10 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11325198 - another young at 2.4
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11209956 - 2.4 at the time, 4 days old
i have some more trades. some of these are fairly new posts so I'm posting them here for all of us to keep track of if this suggestion stays up for longer. some of theses may be repeats so bear with me
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11355754 - selling for 2.3
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11388311 - selling for 2.28
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11200258 - selling for 2.4, 6 days old
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11286378 - selling for 2.32, 3 days old
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11380876 - selling for 2.36,
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11375431 - selling for 2.32,
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11330165 - selling for 2.32
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11225624 - selling for 2.24, 5 days old
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11380302 - selling for 2.24,
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11392071 - selling for 2.4, sold for 2 buds + 5 keys to Pelivelho |RAWR
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11331609 - selling for 2.4
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11391528 - selling for 2.24,
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11294956 - selling for 2.34, 3 days old
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11394300 - selling for 2.44
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11325589 - selling for 55 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11372434 - selling for 2.4
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11344193 - selling for 2.4
update
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11391528 - seems to have sold it to ᴠᴀɴɪᴛʏ † for a couple of keys less than his b/o after checking id histories in his bp
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11380876 - sold with 10 keys + gib kills + critical kills for sunbeams raincatcher. i'm taking this one off from proof because of lack of payment in pure and subjective unusual value
update
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11225624 - seems to have sold for 2.2 to Toast according to bp IDs
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11372434 - traded for a blizzardy brown bomber MajorBlingBling, hard to track other items involved in this trade so removing this trade from the proof list is best option
update
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11331609http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11410911 - closed trade to sell as a set for 3 buds altogether, making the max come out to 2.2http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11375431 - 1:1 with cauldron bubbles gatsby
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11330165 - sold with self-made key for It's A Secret To Everybody Medic's Mountain Cap.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11380302 - sold for Smoking Company Man & Orbiting Fire Big Country
and some more trades to keep track of
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11301740 - selling for 2.3, sold for 2 buds + 4 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11310864 - selling for 2 buds + 7 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11395878 - selling for 2.4
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11229802 - selling for 2 buds + 7 keys, 5 days old
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11339381 - selling for 56 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11375257 - selling for 2 bud + 6 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11374730 - selling for 2.3
update
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11301740 - sold for 2.2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11374730 - closed trade to sell for unusuals
update
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11310864http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11412458 - new trade with four maxes selling for 2.24 - 2.32 eachhttp://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11229802 - according to backpack histories, quicksold for 1 bud + 26 keys to -WuB- Snoops #eS
Holy jeesus you are adamant on your updates :P
i still have more in my arsenal of proof >=)
update
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11339381 - sold for 2.24
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11375257 - sold for 2.24
Needs a range. Still very good proof though.
Do me a favor, split up your unsolds and selling links into two segments, makes it easier to read ;)
Edit: Thanks much!
done and done
edit: you sorted it.
but you might need more proof
and make sure non of the maxs are duped or lvl 1 or 7(no matter how clean cuz people will always think they're duped and pay lower)
look at the unsold list
nah, you don't need to tell me about 1s and 7s, thanks for the feed back. i will most definitely be adding more unsolds
Your 52 key and 2.2 bud buyouts sold REALLY fast. Something worth noting.
First unsold link is only one week old.
Second unsold link has several adds.
Third link is level 1.
Fourth link is only 1 week old.
Fifth link is 3 days old.
Sixth had some offers around 2.4 buds, and one add but the buyer was paying in keys and was rejected. This is the only legitimate piece of proof of your unsolds.
Seventh is only 4 days old.
Eighth is 4 days old.
Ninth is one week old with very close offers.
I'd like to see better unsolds.
^he's right.
I'm working on it, though now I"m not seeing many 2.4 b/os on the market. Too many 2.2 sellers. I just don't see successful or unsuccessful 2.4 sellers now. Also for this item, i try to avoid posts younger than five days as well, so it's a very strict criteria for proof
Needs a bump and most unsold are not lvl 1/7 and painted black, ts, exc Good Job!
Read my post - the unsolds aren't good proof.
Also, paint doesn't matter on Max Heads. Generally, things above a bud have unusual rules applied to them.
Wasn't talking to you first off, I read your post and have seen a decrease in prices on posts over the past few days, and painted max heads usually fetch a key or 2 more FYI
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10913834
sold quite fast for 53 when buds were 22
buds are not 22 any longer and 53 is in the suggested range its an upvote
they were when i sold that. which is what matters. not what they are now because i didnt sell it now
so if you didn't sell it now why is it relevant to the current price?
because it was sold after the last suggestion, which makes this still valid.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11046762 - quicksell, sold for 50 keys fast when keys were 23-24 (2.13 buds)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11247210 - sold for 56 keys when buds were 24 keys (2.33 buds) (looked at history of keys in bp)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11121500 - offer of 2.25 buds 1 hour ago
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11284644 - sold for 2.25 buds (fast sale)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11294523 - sold for sunbeams raincatcher (~3.1 buds)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11319294 - added a bud and sold for 76 keys (51.5 keys = 2.1 buds)(sold within 3 hours)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11219201 - sold for 2 buds + 5 keys 4 days ago? (2.21 buds)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11194913 - 3 people added within an hour for 2 buds + 2 keys (2.08 buds)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11295032 - appears duped (history still lists person as owner but its not in their inventory)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11105348 - lvl1 max (price is less than normal)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11304183 - 2.2 buds (nothing to say about this one)
Changing the price of this to 2.2 buds flat is pointless, since this item still sells for more than that. Many of the ones selling for 2.2 buds disappear extremely quickly and therefore should be considered quicksells. However, A better range may be 2.2-2.3 buds. That would back your proof up quite a bit more. I'm going to downvote this time but if you come back with a 2.2-2.3 change I'll back you up ^^
I have seen plenty go for a little over 2.2 usually only 1 key or 2 over, so 2.3 in the range may very well be warranted. I'll see where this suggestion goes for the time being, but your feedback is duly noted.
Something inside the current range cannot be a quicksell...
Why not? Quicksell refers to a item that you want to sell as fast as possible by dropping the price to an amount it would be tempting to others to buy at. When multiple people manage to sell their hat within an hour or 2, that can be considered a quicksell.
Mmm, in that case, if 2.2 is a quicksell, it shouldn't be in the range period, should it not?
No. many unusuals have quicksell prices that are the same as bp.tf prices.
Perhaps that's because the ranges are wrong.
Now, now, are you saying backpack's precious, highly up-to-date prices are wrong? If that's the case, wouldn't it be possible that the range for this item was also implemented wrong?
Upvote. Sold mine for 2 buds and 4 keys
could you show proof of that?
Isn't that still with in the current range?
No, that's 2.16 buds :P
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11199350 ( 2 adds for 2 buds + 2keys)
Up vote.
Sold for more than 2.2 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11291382
that's a sale of 2.24.... not that much over 2.2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11273611 <- more than 2.5 for sure
that's a trade worth over 2.4 and he now has a level 1 max in his bp. I'm sure this trade didn't happen because it would've been a ridiculous overpay on his part. trades exclusively involving buds and keys are preferable.
It did happen. Check the history of the unusual and the bud. He even offered it on my trade http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11288988 but I didn't take it.
He's still on my friends list and I'll add a screenshot of the chat once he's back online.
that sucks for him then, that's a horrid trade.
Easy downvote, just sold a black non-duped Max for 2 buds and 7 keys (that would be like 55-57 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11381079
what happened to the keys from your buyer. all i'm seeing is just the 2 buds from him
I have 13 keys now, he gave me 7. I obviously had 6 from before, have you even checked my backpack?
Anyways, have a screenshot if you really care THAT much:
http://oi41.tinypic.com/mhvn5t.jpg
just wondering, cuz none of them have his name in the id history
2 bud should be price of dub but normal max should be 2.2 - 2.4
That is a hell of a mess...neutral
Hey, when people ask for more proof, I deliver.
great, lower the price so that I can buy one, upvoted >:3
Level 7 max was never duped. There is even less lvl 7 maxes than there is some special level ones. Its just the fact thats some kid thought oh hey lets call lvl 7 max duped so i can pay lower! And nah lvl 1 was history reset but i want to pay lower so lets say its still DEWPED OH MY GAWD. Anyways i upboat this gud proofs.
http://www.reddit.com/r/tf2trade/comments/14bs3q/psa_greys_guide_to_max_heads_levels_1_7_the_duped/
This should help.
Loads of proof, upvoted.
If it's still being sold in the 2.4 range, its unacceptable to remove the range... downvote.
except that most of the 2.4 B/Os listed have sold significantly less, haven't sold at all or the seller gave up on pure and went for unusuals. did you even look at some of the 2.3 unsold?
Posted a trade thats been up for one day. Have sold two in that time, one at 2 + 8, other at 2 + 7.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11412458
http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/162/6/0 - a few unsold at 2.2 or higher (non lvl1 or 7)
You have shown many sales at ~2.2 buds. Comments have a few sales for higher, but they could have been lucky. Plenty of unsolds at 2.4, I'll accept this suggestion.