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Apparently people play A LOT of Man vs. Machine, because everyone who has tickets and selling for 2.22 is out of stock
http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/115684072/1 <-- Outpost List of Sellers
http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/115685392 <-- Outpost List of buyers
18 pages of sellers 20+ of buyers, we have now established a demand for this item.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11273722 <-- Sold out 2.22
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11107830 <-- Sold out 2.22
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9667839 <-- Sold out 2.22
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11302758 <-- Sold 2.22
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10726149 <-- Sold out 2.22
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10111137 <-- Sold out 2.22 No one selling back to him for 2 refined
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10934891 <-- Sold out 2.22
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11320837 <-- Sold out 2.22
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9687828 <-- Sold out 2.22
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11189637 <-- Sold out 2.22
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11184459 <-- Sold out 2.22 No one selling back to him for 2 refined
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11359235 <-- Selling 2.22, sold many
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10804647 <-- Sold out 2.22
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11365183 <-- Selling 2.22
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11283119 <-- Sold out 2.22
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11036092 <-- Sold out 2.22
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11306826 <-- Sold out 2.22
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11029295 <-- Sold out 2.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10635649 <-- Sold out 2.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10630745 <-- Sold out 2.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11298032 <-- Sold out 2.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10692520 <-- Multiple Adds at 2.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11212238 <-- Selling 2.33 sold 9
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11341244 <-- Sold out 2.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11322317 <-- Sold out 2.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11325217 <-- Sold out 2.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10865567 <-- Sold 2.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11301611 <-- Sold out 2.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11291836 <-- Sold out 2.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11356587 <-- Selling 2.33 got added
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11245801 <-- Sold out 2.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11364440 <-- Sold 1 of 2 tickets, 2.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11314320 <-- Sold 2.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10845485 <-- Sold 28 of them, 2.33 each
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11333988 <-- Sold 2.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11363248 <-- Sold 2.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11311619 <-- Successful adds at 2.33, 5 left
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11340148 <-- Added 2.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10986876 <-- Buying 2.22
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11120384 <-- Unsuccessful 2.11
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11336382 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11294507 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11281783 <-- Unsuccessful 2.11
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11368927 <-- Unsuccessful 2.11
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11270291 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10446420 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00 (added 3 weeks ago for whatever he payed then)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11170880 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11099002 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11329232 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11343575 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11305515 <-- Unsuccessful 4.00 for 2 tickets = Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11356731 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11193112 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11239922 <-- Buying 2.22
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11198058 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11345707 <-- Unsuccessful buying at 2.00, buying at 2.22 if sold in bulk (+12)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11349602 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11355763 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00 (Add did not fall through)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11198923 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11369541 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11344154 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11346348 <-- Unsuccessful 2.11
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11357538 <-- Unsuccessful 2.11, Selling 2.22 (no stock since no one will sell)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11336208 <-- Buying 2.22
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11322754 <-- Unsuccessful 2.11
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11351048 <-- Unsuccessful 2.11
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11319538 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11373359 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11275190 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11363742 <-- Unsuccessful 2.11
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11101843 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11239313 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11373721 <-- Unsuccessful 2.11
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10392763 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11357335 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11205947 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11372771 <-- Unsuccessful 2.11
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11315374 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11368071 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11239922 <-- Buying 2.22
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11280718 <-- Unsuccessful 2.00
So yeah... that should be enough, very difficult to find for 2 refined, all of them selling for 2.11 are snatched up, during my selling and buying link finding, I saw a lot of common people who buy for low and selling for high. Just feels it needs an update and 2.00 is obselete and 2.11 is sort of a "quicksell" when it comes to these.
**Note, price used to be ~1.33 when keys were low around 2.66 so just ignore those buyer, who have not update their prices and only adds are months ago**
looks like tickets are going up again.. i only got 1 for 2 ref in the past week
me too - just 1 at 2 and an offer to sell a few for 2.11 that i should have taken
I got about 10 :)
100% upvote, tons of proof, how long did it take to find all this?
Holy shit. Good proof mate.
Sold 3 instantly at 2.44 ref each. Definitely needs a rise. Upvoted.
http://gyazo.com/b42ce7239d38fc9bad20efd3a3e77ba0
To make it simple, it was 3 ToD + .66 for 8 ref, or 7.33 ref / 3 = 2.44 each.
As my trade is mentioned in the suggestion, I've been selling them at 2.33 with no problems for over two weeks now.
upvoted!!!!
Crap, a lot of proof
damn how long did it take you to find all that proof, that's something i would expect in a key suggestion.
Upvote
On ticket suggestion: "Wow, that's a LOT of proof! Upvote!"
On key suggestion: "OMG U NED MOAR PROVE DOWNBOAT"
We'd upvote you if you weren't one of Long's children.
I'm not Asian, so I'm not one of Long's children. Besides, I'm pretty sure he's a virgin. The number 1 contributor of an obscure* pricing site for a virtual economy does not get out much.
*I say obscure in that most non-traders have never heard of backpack.tf.
Oh man that slaps me on the knee xD
I agree, very few can buy for 2.22 or less and 2.22 seems a bit rare. 2,33 is the most common price.
http://i.imgur.com/ZHCSfvz.png
3 in a row with selling for 2.33 and buying for 2.22
Anyone want to buy mine for 2.44 ;)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11373501
Tons of valid proof and extremely high demand. Upvote.
2 ref sales are snatched up in a minute.
Just got 2 adds and one 2.22 ref offer for my ticket. (Sold for 2.33)
upvote, took me several hours to find somebody who had 3 tickets for 2.22 each
Sold out in like, 1 hour at 2.22 + 1 wep... Had 40 tickets in stock. Upboat
Damn, G: look at all that cheddar.
I don't think I've ever seen that many solds in a single suggestion before. The upvote is clearly on your side. I probably don't want to upvote this (I love MvM), but the green sign I shall click.
scrap.tf is still managing to buy at 2.11 and not really selling quickly at 2.33 so i think 2.11-2.33 is a better range. also i've been moderately successfully buying at 2.11.
And scrap.tf doesn't count as proof.
by that logic keys should be shooting up lol
good proof, plus I also tried to sold mine and I haven't got any offer under 4.22 (but I was in game, so I can't put the offers I got as proof because I haven't screenshoted them)
UPVOTE!
Bites that Carbs/Silvers don't even cover the cost of the ticket anymore.
Worst part about it is there isn't even new maps to meet the demand of the price raising. Doesn't really make much sense why all these tickets are being bought out suddenly. Good thing I stopped buying tickets with ref to feed my MvM addiction. Hit 90 tours on expert yesterday. Check my badge if you don't believe me ;)
As much as it pains me, upvote due to proof.
Lots of proof, too bad 99% of it is more than 2 weeks old. Then again, I buy them by the ton at 2.22 - 2.33 to sell them on the market for 'steambucks' and I don't really care if the low range goes away so whatever.
I've scooped the odd ones for 2 within the past few hours but that's pretty few and far between.
Upvoted.
just picked out one "unsuccessful at 2.11" and he has a new ticket in BP. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11322754
only one out of many links wont help as counterproof
http://www.tf2outpost.com/backpack/95981 - also got tickets, closed
http://www.tf2outpost.com/backpack/275043 - also got one in BP, right beside the metal
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11373721 - got 5 tickets
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11372771 - also has a new ticket on top of BP
no matter how many trades i list, i just wanna say that 2.11 isnt impossible.
He bought 2 tickets 2.22 from this guy http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11430984
<-- Click left and right one, now in ǝsɹǝdunɥɹɐʞ's backpack, and I saw with my own eyes that a 2 refined was missing as well as a reclaimed, if you looked yourself before you posted this "sale at 2.11" his backpack is sorted from scrap then reclaimed then refined then crates.... and 2 refined and a reclaimed was clearly missing
And posting links of people's backpacks doesn't count as counter proof, just because their trade says buying tickets 2.11 and they have tickets in their backpack doesn't necessarily mean they bought them at 2.11, he could have felt like playing so he payed a simple 2.33 the last link is the only evidence of a sale at 2.11 you have from that
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11417672
Your trade. So i think that doesn't count. Besides, you sold to your last one in 2 minutes. So, this is a quicksell
not really it's the price they should be.
Get more sales of 2 ref. Then I will say it is not a quicksell
Coincidentally scrap.tf was full of these when I last checked a few minutes ago. But not anymore now that I look at it.
One of the easiest way to buy keys is to buy in bulk, 5 tickets for 2 keys is a pretty fair and easy price.
Looks gud. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11422821 buying for 2.22
Put a trade up on outpost selling 1 at 2.22, got 5 adds within 2 mins. I sold it to the first one- http://i.imgur.com/izrEFsE.jpg
Got added within a minute after trade was open. People still sell it for 2 ref.
[url]http://imgur.com/FWKyzgE[/url]
just bought two today for 2 ref, I dont think its impossible to get them for 2ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11422028
Don't see anything special about a blank trade...
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11429035 - Also good luck selling your tickets for 2.33
I buy at least 1 at 2 refined a day, if not more depending on whether it's weekday or weekend.
I don't think the price is this high.
Could provide screenies if necessary but right now it's too much effort unless there's request for it.
I buy for 2.22 and sell for 2.33, and boy do I sell out fast. Nobody sells at 2.11 when I buy, so this statement seems pretty accurate.
-A ticket vendor
Conflicted votes, conflicted comments. Maybe 2.11-2.33 might be a better raise?
So you are suggesting I close the suggestion with +1500 votes to increase the price a scrap... I'm agreeing that it should be 2.11-2.33 now but don't you have some provision so we don't have to waste so much effort waiting another week, getting more links and tolerating more people on these suggestions?
Unfortunately, not. Though I expect the second suggestion won't be a 3 day waiter. The major issue seems to be with the 2.11 spot, there should be a more solid agreement with the new range which will allow for it to be passed without so much of a delay.
Alright I can start collecting more evidence and when I feel sufficient I can post 2.11-2.33 thanks for the advice
nice proof, upvote
I play alot of mvm. But it varies what people are willing to pay. I will say this though. It seems at some point a 2 4 1 initiative came into being with a key. So in theory, There is no reason why this wont rise further to the actual cost of half a key in metal.... ie 2.6 per ticket
But on the other hand. In my country i can get 4 tickets for the cost of 1 key in the mann co store. So its literally what the poor people are willing to be sharked for will make or break the rising..
I feel it should be even higher, as I see the majority of trades completed being 2 tickets for 1 key. The demand of these things are flying through the roof.
2.11 is going very fast. (like 2 ref)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11436467
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11427660
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11422087
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11417655
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11415073
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11410571
None of these needed a bump to sell.
I also play a lot of MVM (Currently tour 111) and have no issues of finding 2 and 2.11 refined through my trades on outpost and tf2tp on a daily basis. 2.22 is a viable price as well and 2.33 may have some traction to it. I think you need to still include 2.11 refined on the bottom end as that is still a viable buying price and represents the market conditions. Ramses (ABOVE MY COMMENT) even shows people who were selling for 2.11 that sold and I don't have issues with buying at 2.11 ref through my many trade requests.
Additional proof for 2.11 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11447756
bought 3 of em without any bumps. Easy and a viable buying price stil from my experience. Anybody else have similar proof?
Just bought 2 more for 2.11 from my tf2tp trade that is still open. Person did not leave an offer and added me directly for the trade. after tonight, you will only see new BK in my backpack. If I am finding sellers this easily, so should everyone else.
downvote on principle, unsuccessful marks here are irrelevant.
Because: I have had hundreds of sucessful trades that receive no replies on outpost.
2 ref seems a bit low, but some of your 2.11 buyers have had success. They have tickets in their bp, even if the trade didn't get any comments. Comments also show some purchases at 2.11 ref, so maybe it is a better low price?
So you are suggesting I close the suggestion with +1500 votes to increase the price a scrap... I'm agreeing that it should be 2.11-2.33 now but don't you have some provision so we don't have to waste so much effort waiting another week, getting more links and tolerating more people on these suggestions?
I bought planty succesfully at 2.11,downvoted
While this have plenty of REAL proof and it can't get approved by moderator, Robohats are being voted to drop and approved almost DAILY using quicksales as proof....
Those quicksells are not selling therefore the price needs to decrease, and I'm closing due to LACK of proof here, currrency items like these are a lot different from normal hats also
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11245441 declined a Robocrate Key for 2 tickets + rec (aprox 3 ref each ticket)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11382008 2.44refs and people is even willing to overpay that with items.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10590014 rejected a 1 KEY item offer (byted beak) for 2 tickets (2.66ref each ticket)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11400800 selling ALOT at 2.33 ref