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Proof:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11386372 - Not willing to go lower nor sell for metal, he wants keys + metal
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11231806 - Declined 6 ref, Pink Paint + 1 ref, has someone added for 1 key 0.66 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9300803 - Declined Pink Paint + 1.33 ref, 1 key
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11147135 - Sold many for 1 key 1 ref recently
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9478379 - Sold out (many are recent) for 1 key 2 ref
Most sellers sell with key prices and even after keys went up they sell for 1 key 1 ref
Some still sell for metal
I know it's not much proof but 2 pages and 6 links and many are new and some are also overpriced such as 1 key 2 ref, 2 keys and 2.5 keys
There's 1 for 5.66 ref on classifieds but classifieds isn't a popular way to buy and sell
isn't that pretty much the same range in keys?
i think it's important to reflect the currency the part actually sells for given the volatility of metal vs. keys
that said, when looking at http://trade.tf/listings/search/Sell/Unique/Strange%20Part%3A%20Projectiles%20Reflected/None/1 i see a lot more trades at refined than keys
Of course it's important to reflect the currency on a "projectiles reflected" part.
Badum tss.
+1
i laughed, i cried...
I looked at 2 pages out of 2 pages and 6 trades on outpost, except for ~5 - 10 who wanted metal all the links wanted keys + metal and few wanted either keys or metal and didn't care
trade.tf is your friend
i see a lot more selling for either key or refined than just key - and most in current range
i went through the first 2 pages on trade.tf (which, btw, remembers the text of the trade even if the trade has changed since - very useful for tracking completed trades)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11474121 - refined and in current range
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11465119 - refined and in current range
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11433319 - refined and in current range
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11450756 - sold in refined, current range
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11473401 - refined or key but in current range
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11472446 - refined or key but in current range
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11471372 - refined or key but in current range
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11463578 - refined or key but in current range
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11450219 - refined or key but in current range
First link sold within 1 hour - EXTREMELY FAST
And if you read my notes after my proof i wrote that i found around 5 - 10 links of metal only and also some sell for either key + metal or metal, you went through 2 pages and found 9 links that are 4 ref only and 5 keys + metal or metal which just proves my point most sell for keys + metal and only some sell for metal only or leave it as an option
i read your notes and looked at your proof
i'm just pointing out that MOST trades accept refined or are in pure refined. and all the sold ones are in the current range.
not sure what else to say
Keys are now 5.33 so 1 key 1 ref is 6.33 and not 6 so it needs some kind of raise and also most sell for keys so the currency should be updated
i totally agree - however - look what currency it's actually selling for. the majority of trades are made in refined.
What majority? lets use tf2 op which is the most common site - out of 2 pages you got 9 which 5 of those are either key or metal that means that the rest are for keys which is majority
do i need to provide MORE counter-proof still? i already posted more than your original proof. i.e. the majority.
i'm not sure what you mean by majority, but either add some more proof or please stop telling me to do more work just to disprove your theories...
and yes, there are key priced ones. they are not sold tho - just selling...
Many are sold but you can't exactly track sold ones, I can give 50 links of selling for key + metal, but then people will whine selling =/= sold
you should use trade.tf when compiling proof. while trade.tf shouldn't be used as proof directly, it does show you trades that have actually sold. so yes, you can track them.
First link selling =/= sold
Your comment is just amazing cause you obviously didn't read anything from what i wrote, if you look at comments you can see the he says the the key is what means to him and not metal which just proves my point, people prefer selling that part for keys and they also succeed, of course some sell for metal but on outpost which is more common is mostly keys + metal or keys + metal/metal which is why i want to change currency
Selling (NOT SOLD):
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10843790 - He wants 1 key + 0.66 ref (read carefully and you'll see)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11399075 - He wants 3 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9073852 - He wants 2 keys each
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11231806 - He wants 1 key 0.66 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11479030 - He wants 2 keys each
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/5683509 - He wants 2 keys 2 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10919226 - He wants 2 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10369489 - He wants 2 keys each
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11450219 - He wants 1 key or 5.33 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9803318 - He wants 2 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11275513 - Sold out for 1 key 1 ref or 7 ref (most of the links are selling and not sold but this one also sold)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11472446 - He wants 1 key 1 ref or 6 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9934603 - He wants 2 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9105579 - He wants 1 key 3 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8000654 - He wants 2 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8702257 - He wants 2 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9300803 - Unknown price, "mostly looking for key offers"
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9603926 - He wants 1.5 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11423516 - He sold for 6 ref (first one of metal ONLY so far)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11448965 - He wants 1 key 2 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9804684 - He wants 1 key 2 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11433319 - He wants 6 ref (second one of metal only so far)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11473401 - He wants 1 key + 0.33 ref or 5.66 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11414937 - He wants 1 key + 0.66 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10228373 - His B/O is 2.5 keys, willing to do 2 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11465119 - He wants 6 ref (third of metal only so far)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9291426 - He wants 2 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/6809756 - He wants 2 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11421160 - He wants 2 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11414864 - He wants 6 ref (fourth of metal only so far)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10920250 - He wants 1.5 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11034116 - He wants 2 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9400175 - He wants 1 key 2 ref
These links are used to show that majority states they want keys + metal or just keys, some might accept metal but they still ask for keys
After 2 pages (i opened 2 and a bit but i removed some unknown prices or items) of links only 4 wants metal only, many don't care keys or metal and MANY want keys + metal
i agree. he got bad proofit.
17 of those r asking above the current range and the new range and as such do not constitute proof.
plus you post a ton of links that disprove your suggestion? ie unsolds in key+metal
im confuz
I posted it to show that people, either selling or not want keys and not ref, solds are a bit hard to track cause most trades with more than 1 are overpriced, but I still shows some 1 key 1 ref that sells now which is a bit higher and out of all those links only 4 listed their price in metal, others priced it as keys or keys/metal so what i'm trying to do is change currency with almost same price cause keys is what people sell or at least try to, also half or more of those links are recent or recent-ish
My search was rather informal, but across outpost and trade.tf, nearly all trades requested a key + metal. Upvote
From a quick search of tf2op, I can agree with you that people seem to prefer keys. Example: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10843790
Following recent trends in the market, most people heavily prefer keys to metal these days. Upvote.