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Unusual Defiant Spartan Burning Flames
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Now I know that this range is pretty wide, but I've seen this hat get some high bud offers and the owners still not take them. Yes, I am an owner, but that does not influence my thoughts on the hat. I sold my O. Fire Crone's Dome for a burning Spartan helm + 10 ref lastnight, and I believe the trade was very even.


Proof : - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10268435 - offers of 8 pure and many unusual offers higher than or equal to 8 and not even a response to the guy who offered 8 pure. Offer of stormy storm crones, also with no comment.


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10961057 - Many high tier unusual hat offers around 8 + and some over 9


Most people are selling for a minimum of 10 pure while others are holding out for more. Until someone actually sells one for 10 pure, I believe that this new price suggestion is very fair for both buyers and owners of the hat.


P.S. I took the minimum pricing from the old max price of the burning Spartan.


    8 buds pure: check

    9 in unusuals: not found.

    If I am wrong please show me.

      Agreed. Not only that, but, please, OP, factor in overpay.

        I totally forgot about unusual overpay. More reason to accept this fair pricing.

          I meant overpay on the other unusuals, not the Spartan. In other words, it doesn't help your current price.

        I suppose you'd have to go through and PC every single one of the moon/harvest/secret unusuals listed and what they actually sell for and the offers they get themselves. + I said around there, up for interpretation though.

          then do that. Find the unusual worth 9, or your suggestion is probably void.

            It's not really my job to go price every unusual offered, I'm only here to update this price. If you want to do so, go ahead, but I wont cover all 100 unusuals offered on the 5 burning Spartans on outpost.

              It is your job. Find proof or have your suggestion closed.

              + gotta factor in unusual overpay, remember that.

                Other way around. You consider unusual overpay on the other hats, not the Spartan.


                And it IS your job. You opened the suggestion, you do all the research.

                  Just posted some. And I understand. When people offer they often don't overpay in unusuals, most sellers have to ask for overpay because it isn't always a common practice. Most people just 1:1 hats of the same value and leave it at that. So you have to look at both the sellers and buyers side who have to overpay in unusuals. I don't think I overpaid for it, I think I actually got more out of this trade than the other guy did, but it's up to the community to choose here.

                    I also owe you an apologie for being rude, I kinda confused myself and I'm sure others by what I said. I was attempting to get prices for the unusuals offered but my mind, being on some strong meds, confused my thoughts and what I was actually trying to say. if you think I need to adjust the max price to 8.5 or so, that would probably be fair since most of those unusuals don't quite hit the 9 + mark.

                1. Please provide a screenshot of the trade history with the spartan you bought

                2. If there are really Unusuals worth ~ 9 buds, please show us where you see them

                3. Unusual overpay means, that you have to value Unusuals lower as the same in pure buds/ keys

                4. When looking for Unusual offers, we have to take their price on backpack.tf (not look the price of them up as well, because then we wouldn't be able to price a single Unusual) and consider overpay

                5. It is your job to list all offers and tell us for how much the site values them and then make a price range based on that

                  <a href="http://tinypic.com?ref=4tlyyc" target="_blank"><img src="http://i41.tinypic.com/4tlyyc.png" border="0" alt="Image and video hosting by TinyPic"></a>

                  I paid a o fore crones worth 9.1 on here, sells for more though. Stormy crone's valued at 6.8 here but sells for 8 + and many have offers of 8 as well (all have been rejected for the Spartans), moon pot + 1, the pot has been sold for 7 + 1 is 8 (in unusuals though) , Purple energy noble sells for 5 + 9 painted bills + sweets (around 8 + depending on the seller and if he'd even take 5) these are just to name a few. There was also an offer which one guy received (as well as I did) of a secret lid but the guy offered my the lid + 1.5, and neither of us took it. the lid is worth (according to this site, 7.6 but people sell/ask for more).


                  There's some proof for ya.

                    "I sold a crate for 30 buds.


                    Trust me."


                    When we say proof we mean provide links to said trades or screenshots of a trade history.

                      I believe the link I provided was to a pic I got from the trade I did yesterday. If not, please inform me. I took pricing from this site and set them according to the unusuals offered in the links I first provided. You can find the links provided in my first post to the offers those two had gotten.

                        Take out the weird symbols. Right now I can't make head or tail of what's part of the link and what's random symbols. Just post the URL and it'll auto-link.

                        http://i41.tinypic.com/4tlyyc.jpg

                        That one should work, sorry about that! Also, sorry if I confused you earlier by what I said. I'm currently sick and kinda loopy so my thoughts are a bit jumbled. Also I'd like to apologize if I came across as rude.

                          Now please hold oyur mouse over it and make another screenshot, so that we can see what effect it has

                            If you factor in overpay for your crone's dome and the fact that he paid you almost 2 keys extra, I just don't see 9 buds.

                I had to do the same suggestion because price is extremely low.

                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10268435

                8 pure

                cloudy outdoor (4.5) + burning guad(4.6) = 9.1

                power surge noble (8.7)

                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11460236

                beams charmer (7.6)

                also outdoor + guad offer (9.1)

                and power surge noble (8.7)

                all rejected

                http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10961057

                another 8 pure offer


                Conclusion:

                2x 8 pure offers

                Few unusual offers around 9 buds

                Current range is definitely too low

                This range is for sure way better than current range.

                So I'd agree with this range, upvote

                  Thank you, saves me some time.^^

                  Suggested range is way better than the current one and close enough.

                  EXTRA:

                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/7682223

                  secret spartan (8.7-9.4)

                  next 8 pure rejected..

                  http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8668267

                  7.5 pure (older offer) rejected too


                  So it seems like 8 pure is very common offer, but almost every owner rejected it and wanted at least 9.