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please read this first!
i know i own this hat myself, but look at the evidence first
all sellers:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11261093
got offered 15 keys, and an orbiting planets hetmans headpiece (13-16 keys).
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11514111
got 10 keys offered, but wasn't going to take it
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11552768
got a (fake?) offer of 20 keys. accepted it
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11587745
i got offered a nuts n bolts hat with no name (14-16 keys)
didn't accept it because i dont like the hat
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11496775
didn't get any offers yet
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11526439
looking to trade for a more expensive unusual, so not willing to sell
buyers:
i bought mine for 16 keys in items
quickbuyers:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11588524
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8453890
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11593485
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11155443
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8596252
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11460058
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11517028
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8016267
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8243177
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9227657
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10325310
12 keys+upgrade to premium (+/- 14.37 keys)
he's looking for a big country with any effect
this are all orb planets big country related trades. as you can see, is there a buyer for more than 14 keys, and some C/Os of 15 keys or more. that's why the price should go up a little
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11261093 - In the current range, and the Hetman's with overpay makes it in the current range.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11514111 - Below the current range, and under the 11-12 key Unusual rule.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11552768 - It is a fake offer.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11587745 - Unusual overpay must be applied.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11496775 - Less than a week open (3 days)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11526439 - Doesn't help anyone.
to respond to the first and fourth link, not everyone uses overpay with unusuals
for the second and the last 2 links, i put it there to show all available trades in the market.
Eveything here should be priced in pure. So if someone offers unusuals, you need to account for overpay.
why do i have to account for overpay? if backpack.tf says something is worth 4 keys, why should it be worth 3 keys?
There is a huge difference between an offer of 4 key, and an offer of an item worth 4 keys. And you have to account for overpay, because the prices here are based on pure. We can't consider unusual offers at their full value, since it's not pure.
still don't get it, but thanks for advice, i'll keep it in mind for my next vote, since i can't change this one
about this trade http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11552768 its was my stupid freind after he did this i was need to close the trade and do new one but still my B\O is 20 keys
thanks for clearing up!
Where does the 17 keys come from?
several people got offered unusuals, which were worth 13-16 keys, but didn't accept them. they were therefore looking for more than 16 keys, so i guess that 17 keys would be a nice high end for them
If they got offered unusuals who's price would be 16 with overpay, then i'd agree. But you didn't include unusual overpay. It's usually the low end or 10% off the mid range.
same story here. not everyone uses overpay because paying in unusuals
orbiting planet is one good effect and deserves one up price
Better then the other suggestion but I think it would be better once some more sold, also I paid about 15.5 for mine http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11270787
Sorry, not seeing proof of sale for 17 key high end... Best offers are 16 keys, and you paid 16 for yours, plus another was bought for 15.5