Suggestion: Earbuds at 24–24.5 keys

Mate I had seen many successful sellers on unusual servers @ 25 keys each this morning. I did not take any screenshots though because I didn't knew this suggestion would pop up.

also so many unsuccessful seller here... lol price is not going down by much just a slight adjustment

well yeah I sold my 4 buds at 24 keys each.

Most of your "unsold" links are young or have offers to buy.

You'll need much more proof than that, considering the last trade on the 20th page on outpost is only 1 hr old (for a search of earbuds-->keys).

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11610616 ~25.4 keys, not 25 keys

No, I already sold my 4 buds for 25 keys each within 3 days.

7 June: http://puu.sh/3cm5f

8 June: http://puu.sh/3cm4N

9 June: http://puu.sh/3cm4o (he bought 2)

just checking a few

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11559354 2 days only, 1 bookmark

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11545259 2 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10324444 how do you know he didnt sell any? he actually got some new keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11610616 thats 25 keys + 2 ref!

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11307624 1 week, ok. but 1 bookmark

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11256568 hows that unsold? do you have any proof?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11603256 1 day only

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11537576 trade closed? lots of new keys... thats not unsold man...

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11485064 looks like he sold two...

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11590473 1 day, 1 bookmark

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11241467 a guy says he will buy it, 1 bookmark.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11308803 a guy says he will buy, 4 bookmarks

not gonna check the others they are in current range anyways

.5 for an item like this aint confortable... its waaay better to buy with just the keys , etc...

downvote :/ for me they should go up not down...

I think the high end is a little harder to sell for than the low end, but that's natural. I still regularly see people in unusual trade servers sell their buds for 25 keys, and I'll make sure to get some screenies when I can, but for now you have a downvote.

You don't have that much proof showing that they can't be sold at 25 keys, until you get more...

take a look at how many people added the man selling at 23 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10325998

sold out at 24 keys plus 1 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11461938

sold 1 at 24 plus 3 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11556220

sold at 24 keys plus 3 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11557291

sold many at 24

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11488347

sold some at 24 plus 2 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11530269

had an add for both at 24 plus 2 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11485058

This is just a couple of your trades. Many of your unsolds are not unsold.the currrent range is fine. Yes the 25 keys do not move that fast but they still sell.

23 keys link, 1 month old, last online 19 days ago. Nope.

Unsolds are not valid proof. That leaves strictly the below as your relevant proof, and that is not enough for an earbud price change.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11612396 - 24 + 2 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11298939 - 24.5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11585292 - bud + 2 ref for 25 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11592257 - 24 + 3 ref

I can get more of those even on bp.tf

Don't say you can, if you want them to be lowered you have to prove you CANNOT sell for 25 and give LOTS of proof to support it. Changing a major currency takes a lot more than 20 links. And, the admins never accept .5 in the range of buds. It has to be a 1 key range or flat price because of how many are traded and how common it is they are traded.

so it your words admins of bp.tf are manipulating the price the way they want? is that what you saying? coz I think I got a valid proof here...

Why are you interpreting his words so much different than what they are? Where did 'manipulation' come from? He says you must have more than what proof you have. Also that a .5 keys in a range has never been accepted.

I do got much more now...

Remember, .5 keys in a range has never been accepted.

that = manipulation mate, so I stand corrected!

+ I don't get it... how can they accept even price without range and not accept .5 adjustment? I just don't get it mate.

Wait, what? How the hell is that manipulation?

If you don't understand, then you have no right to accuse of manipulation. You should find out the reason before making a baseless accusation.

I'm not accusing anyone in manipulation, but if that's what they doing here then it is a manipulation mate.

I think what he's trying to get across is that the seemingly prohibited .5 part of a range in buds price is manipulation, because that'd be the actual value of the item.

Just translating what I believe he failed to express.

I disagree, you only got a proof for unsold earbuds @ 25 keys, there is no proof of substantial sales at 24.5 keys each to support your argument.

read on.... you'll get it

I have read all and still did not get it :(

ahh.... what can I say... people trying to get less the 25 and still unsuccessful. that's all

vincent 1st trade is mine, I ended up selling at 24 keys each. I needed quick keys.

I appreciate your honesty dude :)

Vincent, this guy thinks that not accepting .5 keys in a range is manipulation. -.- Please help explain.

it's the current range of sale dude, what your problem? who says it must me a key difference? you? or Vincent? it is what it is, get over it!

There is no official rule regarding 0.5 keys in range. But the community has always been against it, which typically leads to suggestions with them getting closed

I never knew anyone who's against it, so I think it should be up to community vote. That's the fair also more accurate way of pricing. I know that people who own some will be against but its not about them, its about actual market price.

Lol most accurate ...

Yeah , right ...

Keys ...

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10324444 Has buyer at 25 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11610616 He's selling for 25.4 keys. Even if he was selling for 25 keys flat, its only an hour old.

The current price of 24-25 is just fine. I can sell buds for 25-26 and buy for 24.

.5 keys has never been accepted on a buds suggestion due to the large amount buds get traded. Either prove that the price is 24 flat or 25 flat. To show 24 flat you have to show unsolds above 24 keys along with some sales below 24 keys.

According to OP it's manipulation. -.-

I sold like 5 for 25 keys each this morning... check my bp

And your proofs are invalid because all of them are in the current range already :P Just a heads up

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11612675 --> add for 25 in just a minute

lol I just sold that guy 2 buds @ 24 each, he must be banging his head hard on wall right now. lol.

LOLZ......

wait which guy? the jefe one? :D

yes. http://imgur.com/vbkOvc0

http://tf2finance.com/ has at 24.39, closer support for current range. Plus its been trending upward. And trading for 25 is doable.

Also disagree witb OP,Remember, ".5 keys in a range has never been accepted.

Hugh Jazz Mann · posted 27 minutes ago · Score: 0

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that = manipulation mate

☯!NKO · posted 24 minutes ago ·

Just yesterday:

http://i.imgur.com/eMV2k4a.jpg sell for 25

and there is a proof of today dude

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11613481

Paid 25 for 1....24 is a pain to try for, especially at tf2op

Counter proof

http://i.imgur.com/bA4NyM2.png 25 key flat

http://i.imgur.com/Htzs1hK.png Black bill (9 keys) + 15 robo keys (16-17 keys)

so in your opinion exceptions are the proof? what about those above? any comment?

Well my counter proof is exception?

About trade you give , well earbuds can't be sold easily in 1 or 2 days.

This is a currency suggestion so you need lots of proof like key suggestion.

Well it was a cute try but downvote

OMG... what am I going to do? I was hoping you gonna vote for me :(

LMAO

Your laughing at the fact that your suggestion will probably not get passed...come to think of it I am laughing now as well XD

never know so LOL

I do know that your suggestion will not get passed off of 4 links. Also most of your unsolds have been sold/have had their price updated over a month. Something as major as buds needs a lot more. So Rofl

BY THE WAY... KEEP THAT DUMB HATE (for no reason) COMMING, IT MAKE'S IT MORE FUN :d

Why are you talking to everyone on this trade...it is weird.

Real bad proof. Bad price. Bad suggestion, this is just amateur.

I read people saying that buds prices are rising, but I guess I am just lucky. I have a trade on outpost through which I buy buds. And whenever I raise my price from 23.5 keys to 24 keys I start getting flooded with people trying to sell me buds for 24 keys each.

Things to know: If you buy a bud with PayPal money it usually equates to 23 keys per bud.

See below the result when I raised my prices to 24 keys ( last 9 days only):

http://i.imgur.com/t8xlzgq.png .

14 Adds over 9 days is not too bad, but most of your adds came from a week ago when the price was still fairly new with 24 keys being the high end but a few days ago.

lol dude try reading again, I occasionally raised buds prices.

I raised my prices for max 1-2 hours and then had to revert back because of huge volume of sellers.

Well in those 1-2 hours recently you have not been getting too many sellers, most of them center around 7-8 days ago, and like I said before, the price had just been raised with most people centering around the price of 24 keys.

lol dude is it too hard to understand? I only posted proof when I started buying for 24 keys each. I think I accidentally posted a proof of me buying buds for 23 keys too in there. I tried to flip buds today too and with in an hour i got 2 adds and both sold me buds for 24 keys each, but i saw it hard to flip it for more so I reduced my price back to 23.5 keys. Please understand what I am trying to say and stop jumping upon your 1 week old buys.

You need to understand this the price suggestion of 24-25 keys, 10 days ago, was accepted because of substantial evidence of sales at 25 keys so your theory is useless

Also care to read text in green, it may help you clear some of your doubts to understand why 24 keys is so very common

Lol you clearly do not seem to understand what I am saying...paypal has nothing to do with any of this and I have no clue as to why you even mentioned it. I understand everything you are saying perfectly well. I have understood perfectly well everything you wasted your time re-typing. I was only pointing out why you had so many sellers at 24 keys 1 week ago compared to know when you have a lot less. Also please understand that paypal has nothing to do with this...just wanted to make sure you understood that. Also my theory is not useless because for the past 18 days 24 keys has been in the bud price. Most people have centered around 24 keys until people started raising their prices to about 25 keys slowly.

PayPal money is the sole reason why the buds prices went down and the so rippled fluctuations.Brad Pitt the owner of this website is very well trying to push the buds prices in money like refined rather then keys. And mate if everyone was centered at 24 keys then the admins would not have been foolish enough to not realize this and thus would not have approved of 24-25 keys. The accepted suggestion is proof that people were not just centered on 24 keys but perhaps have moved on for 25 keys. So to get any bud for 24 keys at that time was equally significant as it is now.

Mate I flip buds and I know my market very very well.

Lol but our argument does not help the OP in any manner so I guess its time to finish it.

Adios and wish u success.

I don't think that a change in price is needed. I sell buds for 25 keys, and while it might not be instant as soon as my trade bumps, I still sell them. Mostly this is on trade servers, so no screenshots, but if you go on trade servers and see people selling buds, they will 9 times out of 10 sell them for 25 keys.

Would you not like to tell us how easy are buds to get for 24 keys??? I am talking about the ones you flip?? http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11362873

I would just like to point out that he had 1 add a week ago. He could have had more but only one posted...so by that I would like to say not that easy.

mate check the below, they are his trades of buying and selling buds along with trade posted time, so I think its safe to say that whatever amount he sold is whatever amount he bought. In layman's term it is called flipping. Please check out all the facts before posting mate.

Buying Earbuds: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11362873 Jun 2nd, 2013 4:59am

Selling Earbuds: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11389569 Jun 3rd, 2013 12:00am

Traders not necessarily always post on the page before adding. Any trader can vouch for that.

" He could have had more but only one posted" Yes I know...I never write added but I already said that it could have been a possibility. I know what flipping is but on his seller link, everyone has offered 24 keys and no one 25, except for one person who got 2 for 50 somewhere else. Same thing applies to the seller part as well though, not everyone posts adding, but from the facts provided he has not gotten any buyers and only one seller. I have a sony press conference to watch so please excuse me as I do that.

lol try watching IOS 7 conference, it beats your SONY conference.

Isn't it over? Also I do not see apple releasing any new consoles, it pretty much just updated IOS 7 to stuff android already does... Sp your IOS 7 conference is old stuff compared to this.

That 0.5 is just annoying

Good proofs mate :)

it's good to see people like you on backpack.tf

i sold my buds for 24 keys, it was impossilbe to sell them for 25 keys ::( so i just sold them at scrap.tf :/

http://prntscr.com/19abif

http://prntscr.com/19abmw

There's plenty more to go by.

I saw people buying buds for 25 keys in servers -_-

this suggestion will be reject

Yes I agree a more suitable price would be 24.5-25 because although there are many unsold for 25 that doesn't mean they aren't selling for that. It's almost an instant sell for 24 keys so downvoted for now!!

Also never decimals of keys will be accepted on buds

Too small of a change. 25 is still possible, just because you can find them lower occasionaly doesn't mean it should dissapear from the range. The current range is more than fine (for the first time in quite a while)

Anything is possible mate if you have faith in yourself :p.

If you are happy to buy buds in real money, like most of the big sharks, then you can very well pay as low as 22.85-23 keys. Therefore, even that is possible.

I managed to sell a lvl 100 bud for 40 keys on 9th May 2013 when buds were easy to find for 21-22 keys. Even this is possible.

Proof: http://imgur.com/VuBXzr5

I don't have paypal, and I'm most certainly not a big shark. :)

sold one today for 25 keys pure

Some people are lucky, I bought a bills for 6 keys, does that mean it's 6-8 keys? No, because there's people buying them for 8 keys. In this case, there's a lot of people selling earbuds for 24 keys.

more counter proof: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11637654

You should provide a screen from inventory history showing successful trade.

He doesn't need to provide a screenshot if he links a trade.

Anyway: http://i.imgur.com/LWC3MGS.jpg

Nice price range! Good job on the proof, lots on classifieds for 24 keys.

what i've seen:

little proof

biased proof

arguing with users

calling admins manipulators

awkward range

yep, its a downvote... why is this so popular?

Popular just means it gets the most views, matey.

i bought 1 for 24 keys & 24 keys + 2 ref and i got 2 adds from 24 keys . Upvote

fricking price range 24-25

i bought one for 25 keys

I'm sorry but if some people can still sell buds for 25 keys then I guess the price range doesn't need to be changed.

I haven't sold many earbuds like a few of the guys who have spoken up, but in the last few days I have bought and sold 2-3 earbuds, bought at 24 and sold at 25.

I even sold one at 25 Robokeys.

Loads of proof, upvoted.

quite a few sellers on trade servers for 24 keys, 25 can go unsold for a while. upvote on this

Too many sales still happening at 25 keys, as in the comments. Votes overall negative.

Closing.

I don't believe this is valid, because I put up a trade selling my Buds for 25 keys, in around 10 minutes I had a buyer. And, you can't find anyone selling Buds for 24 keys on any of the major unusual trading servers, I've even had trouble trying to buy for 24.5 keys.