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These have gift tags and because of that price is automatically reduced by 25% no matter what. So right now its listed as 0.8 keys. The 1-1.1 keys price does not exist as all these "craftable" ones have gift tags. I have done the conversion, 1.06 * 100 / 75 ≈ 1.42. Making the range 1.35 - 1.45
Example
http://backpack.tf/id/76561198003161689 it is listed as 0.79 to be exact.
I know people will downvote to hell, but just trying to correct the price.
Either remove the gift penalty or change range.
EDIT: For people who don't get this.
http://i.imgur.com/DjDH3E3.png
Looks like I have become like 2nd Long. People will downvote no matter what I post. I am going to ignore all comments, since most posters act like trolls or have hard time reading
Trying to prove with no proof is not trying at all
I don't get it.
What the hell are you talking about.
what....
gifted keys can still be used...
no proof...
read his comment a second time, you don't seem to get his idea.
ok, i get it now.
but it would've been better to create a thread in the forums.
It's better to have the pricelist accurate than backpack value be accurate. Maybe submit a bug report and ask for the gifted penalty to be removed for these keys?
How do you have 19 accepted suggestions?
Reading is hard
I can see where this is coming from, you want the gift penalty to be removed so you are raising the price so it says it's normally that price or something of the sort. Basically, you want your backpack to be worth more.
Lawl dats Greedy Ruff for yah. Look at his trades on the Outpost Lmao.
Look at your own trades hypocrite bastard
My trades are perfectly normal. I don't price stranges at 2X their f***ing value.
Yes sure they are. Buying stranges twice cheaper, buying quicksell unusuals.
That's real non-profit trading man.
Gud Deels = Quicksales? Ha. It's called the "lower" range of an Unusual.
Can you be more subjective? I am making "gud deels" too. No quicksell, no profit, just "gud deels". Idiot
What the hell are you talking about? Your the idiot. You can't talk to a person who has a bp value 4 times yours about making profit. You probably started BEFORE ME as well. Plus I'm trying to save up for my Dream Unusuals.
But isn't buying unusual for quicksell for profit?
Yes, man I really care about BP value. I dont like to argue like a child but here it goes. I gain bp value all the time over $500 and sell it all again all the time. I have made over $1.5k profit total. And I can go on and on
Uh huh. Says that and has no proof. Gj.
I don't have to prove you anything. If you don't believe so be it
This relates to your suggestion here. No proof = People don't believe you.
"This relates to your suggestion here. No proof = People don't believe you."
That reflects your reading skills
What...? Now you're not making any sense. Just close this suggestion before your worsen your reputation as a trader.
Basically I am fixing the price to match 1-1.1. Fixing a wrong price is not acceptable or so?
It doesn't matter, people normally don't value the normal ones less, and they all do the same thing.
A Robocrate key is worth 1-1.1 keys, not 1.35 keys. Prices are not what they are worth in your backpack, prices are what they are sold for. A gifted robocrate key sells for 1-1.1 keys.
You guys (Ryders and pro builder)
stfu and continue this somewhere else before you get warned or banned
I get the reason for this, but it would be better to make a thread in the forums about it.
^^
I feel bad that so many people are bashing you not knowing what they're talking about. Anyways, I know what you mean but, like a few others mentioned, Putting the price as this for the sake of bp value preciseness, imo, isn't worth making the spreadsheet look incorrect. I don't think it's big enough of a problem for the site to make a gifted exception. Gifted weapons, though still usable in crafting, also have the lower value in bp evaluations, but it really doesn't matter.
I believe that two weeks ago somebody created a suggestion to make a point, they got a nice temp ban. I believe it's in the rules that were mandatory to read. No suggestions to prove points.
In my opinion there is no reason for the raise. Just because the gifted version of one product isn't the same price as the non-gifted ones doesn't mean that this product needs a raise in value. I doubt anyone smart would mind the fact that a Robo Key is gifted because they know that many of these keys were gifted legitimately through purchases from the TF2 store.
Lol best suggestion of the day.
http://puu.sh/3iXCl.png
>I know people will downvote to hell, but just trying to prove a point here.
>just trying to prove a point here.
>prove a point
http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/603-dont-use-suggestions-to-prove-a-point/
inb4 b&
Basically as I stated above =P
I am not just using it the prove a point, I am making a correction. Edited it now to make it more clear
Ha, edited didn't you? But I already thought of that and took a screenshot. http://puu.sh/3iXKU.png
Don't be stupid and read my post post above.
Yeah, because you edited the word "just" in there right after I replied.
My post: Last edited modified 17 minutes ago
Your post: posted 14 minutes ago
Really takes long time for you to write things or so?
Please post in the fourms. A lot of people don't get what you're trying to say. I don't really get it either. I mean, both craft and uncraft keys have the same purpose.
Just for people who don't get it... (Not that I agree with this.)
Some Robocrate Keys are getting devalued because they are gifted, due to a gifting penalty. Ruff wants to get the penalty fixed, so they are exactly the same value, because these gifted Robocrate Keys can be used in the exact same manner. Ruff's goal is to remove the penalty, or to chance the Robocrate key price so that when the penalty is applied, it represents the value above right now.
Some flaws:
- Not all robocrate keys are gifted.
- You're raising the price on all clean Robocrate Keys, not gifted ones. Therefore normal ones will be also raised in price.
- You should be using the forums for this.
You are wrong
There are no clean Robokeys and there is 2 types of Robokeys
- Uncraft (bought form store)
- Gifted (Recieving after pile of robokeys)
If this is going to change, it will only apply to gifted keys. Check the pricelist, there is pricing for 2 robokeys. Both are separated
I understand your idea but this will lead people to assume that the standard, non-gifted ones are selling for more, which would be an incorrect suggested value.
So, by that logic, you're saying we should double the prices of all of the Poker Night at the Inventory promos because the fact that they're untradeable decreases their value?
That doesn't make sense.
Those items are correctly priced in pricelist and backpack.
Iron Curtain is 0.33-0.66 in pricelist and price in BP is 0.5
What about poker night 2 items
necronomicrown price - 0.33-0.66ref
necronomicrown in bp - 0.17-0.33ref
He was talking about poker night 1.
But yea those poker night 2 items should be fixed then
Wtf I just red?
These are being sold for a normal key each.Downvote
People will look on the pricelist and see this valued at 1.35-1.45 keys. Not everyone goes to an inidivudual backpack to check prices.
This.
Ruff, talk to Brad.