Suggestion: Non-Craftable Sandman at 0.01–0.05 ref

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~0.22 ref

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63 votes down

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This suggestion was accepted Fri, 21 Jun 13 06:46:04 +0000 by [GIRL] Mr. Bucket.

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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11688494 sold for a wep

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10810516 3:2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11684430 sold for wep

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10807126 - offer of a wep 1 month ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10791642 - 2 offers of a clean wep, 2 weeks ago and 1 month ago

And the reason this: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51be7ffe4bd7b8543100000e got closed was because: http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/sandman 3 on classifieds for 0.01.

And really, prices shouldn't be based off nubs like the people ^^ on classifieds, but you know, whatever, I'll just do whatever admins say.

Nubs FTW xD

But still I will upvote ;)

honestly i think your last one should have been accepted, but proof looks good, upvoted

so i will ask again as the other suggestion got closed ... why bother with a suggestion for something that people give away for free on servers?

Downvote from me on the grounds it makes no odds what 5 bits of evidence support as people give them away on servers

***edit***

awww someone dislikes the comment ... shame. its a shame they could not come up with an answer instead of an anonymous dislike ... ah well, the place is full of self serving idiots and keyboard warriors

"And really, prices shouldn't be based off nubs like the people ^^ on classifieds" <---- you mean players? so they can sell for what ever they want but they are nubs because they were selling at a price that is comfortable for them and not for you??? there should be a restriction on the number of pointless votes that the hard core of this site make <<-- dislike all you want i care not a jot!

did you not look at the proof?

yep. all i saw was 2 with offers. the rest were closed with no comments .... if that is what it takes to get a suggestion accepted then i am off to find some "evidence" for all the "unsold" suggestions .... ooh wait a second i can use the OPs evidence. still a down vote for me

closed=sold

excellent, thanks for the information

Ok cool.

Where's your proof that these are "free"

What...closed with no comments means sold.

do you ever trade on a server or do you just do price suggestions?

well if i can find 2 for nothing over the course of a month then that will negate your point i will post screenys

*do i ever trade

Funny, my backpack, even without the 3 buds that I lent out and my unusual thats with my friend atm, is still worth more than yours.

And yes, I do trade on servers, I'm an admin on one and trade servers is where I do 40% of my trading.

just asking ..... little bit tetchy

oh and here is a kick ... i don't care how much your back pack is worth there are a load richer people than you that don't seem to go on about it but what ever makes you happy :D yes your back pack is worth more than mine and a lot more peoples besides. So you lent an unusual to a friend? so not as philanthropic as you make out then. if you were that generous you would have given it away but anyway back to the point

...... see below

...so if I'm generous, I should give my 4 bud unusual away? Ok, I will, when I quit the game. And I don't really care about how there are people richer than me, there will always be, they started before me and spend actual money, so it doesn't really bother me. Now stay on topic.

You asked where the proof was on my original statement and you have had it. Oddly enough more proof than you put up for a raise in the price. You can get this crap for free on almost any trade server. so with that in mind your original suggestion is still shite :)

so take your own advice and stay on topic

so to answer your points in order:

Awwww but it must bother you as you went to the trouble of stalking my backpack to find out if you could say your backpack is worth more than mine .... Well I hope it made you feel slightly less inadequate about something in your life :D

i dont care what you do with your 4 bud unusualm you can cram it up your arse if it makes you happy but you cant bang on about your generosity if it is a loan .....

"do you ever trade on a server or do you just do price suggestions?"

- you brought this up.

More proof...offers of a weapon and sold for a weapon. A weapon should be in the range. And also, we all know crates get given away for free much more than sandmans. So are crates worth nothing? No, because they can still be sold for items. And did I say I was "generous?" No, you were saying that I didn't trade, so I merely brought up the point that it was with a friend atm, and I was still richer than you without it. It takes 2 clicks of my mouse to see what your backpack is worth. And insulting me does no good, it just shows you're immature.

Ok, so...

0 uncraft sandmans in your bp atm, where did they go?

And in addition, all items have some sort of value, even crates, and I'm leaving 0.01 in the range.

"0 uncraft sandmans in your bp atm, where did they go?"

What do you think happened to them?

I gave them away on a server .... geee! shock horror! and the force au nature and the cola all to the same person.

Want to see the screen shot of that as well? Is it likely to make you close this pointless suggestion because it doesn't have the right range? I doubt it.

"And in addition, all items have some sort of value, even crates, and I'm leaving 0.01 in the range." who the hell mentioned crates?? .... so this goes back to the original point that they are given away free so your price rise is pointless at worst and inaccurate at best ... still gets a down vote no matter how much your backpack is worth :D

It also goes to prove that you calling players nubs because you don't like their prices makes you an arrogant fool.

My point is crates are given away much more frequently than uncraft sandmans, yet they still have a value of 0.01, and I left 0.01 in the range. So I don't really care if you downvote or not, doesn't matter.

Oddly enough, and i never would have thought i would say this, you are absolutely right it does not matter in the slightest. People will pay what ever they want for this uncraftable crap. It does not matter in the slightest what way the vote adds up the admins will accept or decline as they want.

So going back to my original question "why bother with a suggestion for something that people give away for free on servers?" no one normally gives a rats arse about these votes so i thought i would ask the question ... strange that there is not an answer...

Because there are offers and sales for 1 weapon...was that not obvious by looking at the links?

you asked for proof of getting them for free and you have had it and yet there is still no 0 in the range ...........................................................................

...I'm just going to stop wasting my time with you.

I'm glad you can get items for free. But wait, all weapons I got as drops were free as well! Hell, crates are given away for free. But, what? What is it? Some people actually pay for them so they need a price? Madness!

Please, stop your whining and try giving constructive feedback.

Be a dear and make a point not just put a post and think i give a shit because you attempted to be condescending!

If by "whining" you mean questioning then not a hope in hell. If you dont like people asking questions perhaps you should jump in at the beginning of a thread instead of the end of it.

Who is talking about drops? who is talking about crates? these are uncraftable weapons that people got by the bucket load in discounted packages to get the name tags ..... anyway moving on.

As previously stated: people will pay what they want for this stuff so of course it has a value no one has said otherwise but as you seem to want something more constructive ............... the range needs a ZERO VALUE. you have had the proof... will you do anything about it? Nope! Can backpack actually handle a zero value ... i doubt it given all the fuss.

Yep, got some items for free. go me!! gave them away too! go me! Why do that? He asked for proof of it costing nothing, he got it and it took minutes. not hours, not weeks. It seems he does not like it and neither do you. That is your problem. Whine on!

Will you pass this suggestion? of course you will!

Constructive enough? probably not for someone with a red box.

All this from one innocent question which has still not been answered ... for my next trick i will go and make buds worth 22 keys without me doing a thing!

I already answered it.

Because people are selling and have offers at a weapon.

Rob, if you would like to discuss the viability of a price of 0, I suggest you use the forums. Getting dislikes means people don't agree with you, and making fun of it just makes you look bad.

By whining I meant "awww someone dislikes the comment ... shame. its a shame they could not come up with an answer instead of an anonymous dislike ... ah well, the place is full of self serving idiots and keyboard warriors". Perhaps whining wasn't the proper word, but I'd rather use that than a direct insult.

If your question is "Why isn't the price 0 when some people give this item away?" Then it's because it's a market. Nothing is free, but you could basically get anything for free.

Again, if you want to discuss this topic, I suggest you use the forums.

FREE uncraftable sandman x 6, an uncraftable crit-a-cola and an uncraftable force au nature all off a single server

http://i.imgur.com/IHPmwHn.jpg <<-- all of them together

http://i.imgur.com/XKRebsb.jpg <-- the trades (look how long they took to get for nothing! had to go out for a few hours in between)

http://i.imgur.com/uAEFJJR.jpg - one of the new items pages from one of the trades

http://i.imgur.com/hp8fGQj.jpg - all neatly arranged just for you.

^^^^^ all proving my point that this as a price change is completely unnecessary

have fun disliking this comment :D

http://tf2r.com

It's proving that any price change is completely unnecessary.

So raffling?

So keys are worth nothing by your logic? http://tf2r.com/kwzck22.html

It was sarcasm. ._.

.....didn't seem like it, but ok.

As I see, you a great specialist in this matter.

Actually I lied to get your positive attitude. It wasn't sarcasm. I think that raffle site should determine the prices for the items.

Now THAT was sarcasm wasn't it :P

I could not deceive you. Your eyes well hear your ears perfectly see. You have no equal on this side of the Yangtze River.

I'm Chinese too (because only Chinese people know about the Yangtze River)

Oh and we should stop this conversation before cleverpun warns us.

Erm, that looks like you begging for free weapons... Anyways, he provided us with proof of these being sold for weapons, it's perfectly valid.

yep "anyone got an uncraftable sandman i can have for nothing" inundated with trades, stopped at 3 as it was more proof than he provided for the range increase.

If the backpack.tf model cant handle something being valued at 0 then it is flawed. if it can handle 0 then it needs to be included in the range :D

But how many people openly trade it for free? Giving it out is not trading it, so how does that work? Even crates, which everyone can get for free and people like to give out a lot, has a minimum price of .01. Explain that to me considering you know the economy.

servers full of people give them away is that so hard to grasp?

ok that was an exaggeration, not FULL of people.

actually why dont you explain to me why there isnt a zero vlaue included in the range as you are the expert?

I give up with you lot, you are going to pass this suggestion despite it being inaccurate. have fun

So then, by that logic, anything that's droppable and that people give away is free? So weapons, hats, crates and everything else is free? Okay, let's make everything free then! Let's blow up this economy because one person decides to give out stuff! Another thing, give me at least ONE piece of photographic evidence that says that a whole bunch of people, not everyone, was giving out free Uncraftable Sandmans. Can you prove that to me and make your point valid?

http://tf2r.com

here you go, everything is free!

Oh come on guys, he won't understand no matter how much reasoning you feed him. Give up to him and his mule.

Don't argue with him. He's bringing you down to his level and beating you with experience.