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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11735404 finally bought mine for 1 bud 16 keys
after a lot of search in market the only one that was negotiated below 2 buds
just 3 in market absolutely a collective effect hat combo and underpriced
offers
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12032563 orb fire chapeu 1.7-2.1 buds i will accept it if he can add up to 5 keys as sweets i wont 1:1
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12032824 same offer as above rejected whatsoever
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11965859 blizzard swagmans +5 keys 1.7 buds afte unusual overpay
1 bud 16 keys "s more closer to 1.5 just sayin,
and please wait for another sale if you are going to put a range
1.5 is 1 bud + 11.5 keys
1 bud 16 keys is exactly 1.7 buds
hint calculator
downvote the offers you have posted are already extremely close to the current range + you have to account for unusual overpay considering none of those offers are pure.
i have done that already.and there is int the same chapeu is more expensive than mullet and he is adding 4 keys because every other owner have rejected his offer .
bottom line my hat is collective the chapeu not he is willing to add up to my hat
if he dont he wont get my hat.thats all there is so the price on my hat is outdated i know that the buyer know that as well
+ i have already bought it for 1 bud 16 keys so that alone is 1 additional pure proof for my suggested range.there shouldnt be downvotes or arguments all the proof i need for my suggestion to pass is right here in the links and your opinion is just mhmhmmhmm to my ears cheers
1 available for purchase in steam market for around 120 $ as well
:)
the chapeu orb fire is 1.7-2.1 and he is adding 4 keys pure as sweets unusual overpay makes the range 1.6-1.9
He already traded the chapeau for a vivid mullet and the other guy (w/ mullet) added a cut throat. http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51dc3deb4bd7b80b4100001c look at his suggestion.
good now my hat is 1 of 2 i can rise the b.o smooth thanks for the feedback
why i have deslikes here? lol dont worry guys i wont rise my b.o that much haha retarded
You bought yours for 1.7 buds.
Orb Fire Chapeau = 1.7 buds after overpay.
Blizz Swagman's is 1.4 buds or 1.3 after overpay. Add on the 5 keys and you get 1.5 buds.
I don't see the high end mate.
the chapeu is 1.7-2.1 1.9 average so i give it that as the high end.
and the lower end is lower than what i have paid in pure wich is 1 bud 16 keys 1.7 buds and i am suggesting 1.6 buds as the lower something that dont stand to reality cause neither me or shadow the owners of the hat wont sell for less than 2 pure..i personally might not sell it even if a 2 pure offer comes because i cant think for a better hat for my spy and i love the vivids and all the 1st gen effects
as you can see it is totally up to the seller when the hat is that rare the buyer must accept our prices or just wish for a lucky unbox so yes the low end is just for the lols i wont sell for that neither shadow will
That's not how you do overpay.
1.7-2.1. That's a suitable range so we take the lowest amount and that's what it's worth after overpay: 1.7 buds.
So if I have a crate 55 and refuse to sell for lower than 20 buds does it make it 20 buds? No. It's supply and demand. If the demand isn't there when P=2 buds then the price equilibrium is not at said 2 buds. Simple economics.
Backpack.tf does not work based on opinions. It works how I described and that's how all our prices are set.
Please take time to read the rules and FAQ on how to write a price suggestion.
your 20 buds 50 crate is tottaly BS mate
the price of the hat that is offered is the new price for the hat bought and as you see i have calculated overpay and have give it a somewhat smaller range than that.
its not my opinion kid its my proofs if you dont like them change your topic
or downvote the suggestion either way i think you have no idea about the unusual market and i wont be surprised if you have a 20 ref bp.
cheers
You have no proof. Simple as that. I posted how to calculate overpay. I spend quite a bit of time completing counter proofs and making suggestions myself when I'm not too lazy. I know how overpay works.
I know nothing about the market? "Kid" my hat is worth over 2x more than yours. I know what I'm talking about.
I've been working suggestions longer than you have. I know how the system works.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11735404 proof a sold for 1bud 16 keys pure there for low end
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11965859 proof b sold for 1.9 avg unusual there for high end
you where saying?
I never disagreed with link 1. I even stated that it was 1.7 buds.
Link 2: Buyouts mean jack shit. Sold for a hat worth 1.7 buds after overpay.
You were* saying?
haha your hat my hat i think you are missing the point i have proofs over my suggestion and you are behaving like a retarded!
if you are not an admin i am not accepting any kind of advice from you or anyone else on how to make a descent suggestion.
i really wish an admin pop up to warn you to cool down
*sigh*
I think I might be speaking a foreign language somehow... I'm saying time and time again that your "proof" sucks more than all the whores in the red light district of Bangkok.
I've said my piece and you've said yours. I'll let the mods have the final say over this price suggestion but I'm willing to bet my third testicle that this gets rejected as well as the other one.
are you stupid i am not including b.o in my suggestions i only include offers sold or baught hats. you have to know when to stop you are embarrassing yourself
And you need to learn how to read.
if i need advice in maths i will make sure to use a calculator oh wait i did that.
Oh god... the stupid... it burns...
This kid is a fucking potato...
Forgive me mods but a man's patience only lasts so long...
the proofs for the low end is 1 bud + 16 keys 1.7 buds the high end is the chapeu 1.9 buds wich is the average of the chapeu i dont see why you get upset over this suggestion so much its not like i dont have proofs over my suggestion so i can only think you have a personal something with me. anyway i couldnt care less i know how the suggestions work and i dont put suggestions out of thin air if you think you can make a better one my proofs are to your hands to do them whatever you want the community will vote their favorite or what they think its more fit to
The high end is wrong. That's why. I care about accuracy and find it disgusting for people to raise their backpacks without proof.
Time and time again I'm telling you your unusual overpay isn't there. You don't take the middle price and, instead of changing it, you start using ad hominem attacks against me.
Voting doesn't matter as much as you'd expect here. The mods have the final say on the matter.
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51d64da04bd7b8d707000003
That's how you do a correct suggestion.
you dont expect the vivid to have as much offers as the scorching i have put up all the offers and transactions hapened around this hat the last month and thats all there is .. there is nothing more to add.
i know the suggestion will pass dude
and quack see ya
quack quack. aww yis bread crumbs.
do you see any supply in that hat i only see 2 hat in the market mine and shadows so what are you saying of course we will set our b.o at whatever number we like we are the owners not you if we managed to sell them we will come back with new data
but right now the mullet was sold for the chapeu and thats not a 1.4 buds hat what would be a descent range according to you if it is 1.5 then you should go and lower the chapeu price. thats not my concern i dont bother with new hats and new effects.
I'm going to let de immortales decide this. I'm done. Either I'm speaking another language or you don't speak English, I dunno. From now on I'll quack in response.
you are suffering from i knoweverything desist... i have read the faq and i can use the calculator and thats the numbers i am suggesting the price from
proofs and maths since its not your job to be the admin around shshs get of i will w8 for an admins advice and not an amateur traders advice in price suggestion
in contrast with the other suggestion mine is more down to the ground.
honk quack. quek.