Suggestion: Sulphurous Charmer's Chapeau at 136.78–174.08 keys

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~220 keys

sulphurous

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1) First owner offered a Sulphurous Armored Authority and it looks like the trade went through when you look at the item histories (6.75)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11001665 - Chapeau

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12163116 - Authority

2) I bought it from the 2nd owner for 2 Earbuds + level 1 Max's Severed Head (2 Buds because level 1) + Smoking Anger (2.25 Buds) + 10 Keys (.435 Buds) = 6.685 Buds

3) I sold it for 1 Earbud + Strange Frying Pan (7.7 at time of sale) + Genuine Lacking Moral Fiber Mask (1 Key) + Uncraftable Lucky No. 42 (6.5 Keys) + Scorching Nano (2.52 Buds) + Smoking Bunsen Brave (3.015 Buds) = 7.21

http://i.imgur.com/xB3xbx7.png - My purchase and sale proof

4) No offer proof or any items in inventories that prove what owner 4 sold to owner 5 for.

Offers Not Taken: (5 Buds And Above Only) [Unusual Overpay = Middle Value x .9 for each unusual involved]

Orbiting Planets Team Captain (5.67 Buds)

Roboactive Hat With No Name (9.9 Buds)

Green Confetti Team Captain + 22 Keys + Festive Sandvich (6.17 Buds)

Proof of offers:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11001665

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11312388

Valid proof gathered from other suggestion.

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=23uaeip&s=5 - 6 bud sale

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11335637 - same sale as above

http://puu.sh/3z088.png Sold for burning Buckaroos Hat + Orbiting Planets Voodoo Juju (Slight Return) +Nuts N Bolts Counterfeit Billycock w/some halloween paints. He added sweets (*Editing his value for this trade) 5.01 Buds w/ Overpay.

Known Sales -

5.01 Buds (3 Unusuals)

6 Buds (Pure)

6.75 Buds (1 Unusual)

6.685 Buds (4 Pure Mixed)

7.21 Buds (1 Pure + 5.5 in 2 Unusuals + Sweets)

Averaging the 5 known sales you come up with a middle range of 6.3 Buds I will set the range as 5.5 - 7.

This range covers the lower end and upper and of the proven sales. Also the middle number rounds to the average of the 5 proven sales.

Please provide any more proof you can :)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10876512 - Willing to accept 5.

the guy was actually willing to sell for 4+10 keys

downvote

you really went in depth on this suggestion, but with a current seller willing to do 5, 5 has to be in the range.

ill stay neutral

Just because one individual decides to sell for lower it must be in the range? I disagree. This site is based on proof of sales. I have proven 5 sales that fit into this current range.

He also could have grown tired of waiting around and as soon as a pure offer came around he wanted to take it. (Looks as though he never did sell it by the way)

5.5-7... yea definite downvote. You are looking at a trade from when the hat was brand new. Currently there is a few on outpost. I myself was planning to purchase one for 3 Pure + my Bloke's Bucket w/ TF Logo. Which he was going to accept. I however changed my mind after realizing, sulphurous was the red pixel flames not the green (My dumb mistake, I prefer green) So... the high range should not be 7. It should be 5.5 and the lower should be 4.3

1) http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12268654 Trade consisting of the conversation for the Unusual

2) Going to the owner's backpack from the above conversation you can see he sold it for what seems to be only a Blizzardy Charmers. He most likely got other items and/or perhaps some steam games. No real way to tell.

3) http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10876512 As you can see from this trade, his CO of 4 Buds is a month old including most of the Unusual Offers. His actual current offer atm seems to be a... " 1 of 1 in the world terror watt tungsten toque + a billy with blizzardy" Toque has no set price as it is 1 of 1 However the guy is asking 5 Pure in his trade, and his Billy is only worth 20-24 keys. So.. let's assume he gets 4 pure on his Toque the offer is about 5 in Unusuals making it about 4.3-4.5 as a PURE offer.

4) http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11477932 Current offer of a Secret Moon Toque PC-ed at 4.8 - 5.6 however one is on Outpost for 4. Which is effecting the decision to take it. We will just say 5 in Unusuals, making it a 4.3-4.5 Offer in PURE.

From the current offers and evidence. I'm going to have to stick with between 4.3 and 5.5.

Yeah, but you can't fully base the lower price on c/o's.

Christley has made a better suggestion than this one.

No need to consider the average selling price, you just need record all sales and include them in price range :5 .. 6 ..6.68.. 6.75..7.21 -->I have not checked it as you calculated and for what sold/bought , if everything is correct , then 5-7 -will be better.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12345682

i added 19 keys for planets tc, old price but 5.3

first link is 1½ month old. not really current

the 6 bud sale is a month old, not really current.

there's one that would accept 5 buds up right now. but ill guess you ignore that there is a 2 buds cheaper on the market right now than what you suggest

and http://puu.sh/3z088.png Sold for burning Buckaroos Hat + Orbiting Planets Voodoo Juju (Slight Return) +Nuts N Bolts Counterfeit Billycock w/some halloween paints. He added sweets (*Editing his value for this trade) 5.01 Buds w/ Overpay. no, its 5.2 because of the paints

I'm not entirely clear on whether or not current trades or past trades that are 1 month old have to do with an item that has no official pricing. I'd understand current conditions for a price change if this already had a set original price, but since we are establishing the item's first price, shouldn't we include all pieces of sale history to come to the best pricing suggestion? Afterwards, perhaps within even weeks, the price may come down with further sales of 5 or under, then a new suggestion can take place. Please share your thoughts on this (Everyone, not just Christely) Thanks :)

Actually when it comes to older and already priced hat(not robo and new effects) 1 month sales count. But in new ones first sales are about hype. Later when more get unboxed price falls and hype ends. So we need recent ones especially when it comes to new hats