Suggestion: Strange Revolver at 3.66–4 ref

High value is not accurate but the admins are too stupid to notice those sale dates. I would close this trade if I was an admin since the high value is manipulated.

No proof for 4 ref but give this kid what he wants

I'd downvote but since it's the admin's choice, NOT your choice for this suggestion to pass, I don't care. Downvote, upvote, hallelujah.

it does not really matter when the last suggestion was for the proof, unless something happened (re-release, or incase of other items a sale) a week is pretty recent and thus valid proof, which is the reason the last one got closed.

The price changes, especially due to this update, people are buying l'etrangers.

You're so wrong it's funny.

backpack.tf:

http://backpack.tf/stats/210/11/0

9x sellers at 4 refined

1x seller at 3.88 refined

tf2outpost:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12593030 selling as a set(more than 4 refined)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12640598 1 key

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12663483 1.5 keys (with parts)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12552904 4 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12670833 4 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12549773 4 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12693738 4 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12604337 4 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12497593 1 key

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12653044 4 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12665414 4 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11561312 2.85 keys (with parts)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12552402 4 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12648095 4.66 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12217413 4 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12495809 4.33 refined

4 refined is where the s. revolver should be right now. I foresee a price bump in the future though, the only buyers at 3 to 3.66 refined are people trying to turn a quick profit.

1) Don't spam with double posting

2) You literally just showed me links of non-completed trades of sellers attempting to sell for equal or higher than 4 refined.

• In other words NONE of these sold. As of right now, none of your links for 4 ref sold. This isn't counterproof by the way. However, since 4 ref is still possible, in the future it's possible for some of these links to be sold.

3) I'm not showing you buyers, i'm showing you sellers who are selling strange revolvers for 3.66.

4) This isn't how backpack.tf works, they completed trades, current offers, or b/o's that are lower than the current price.

• In this case, the B/O is lower than the current price, there are people selling them for 3.66.

• Will also post successful buyers which will count for the low value when I get home.

By the way, none of these sold.

At least I can use real proof of actual sales.

Even though none of your trades sold for 4 ref, i'd like to admit that 4 ref is still possible which is why I set it as the high value, but once again, none of them sold.

selling =/= sold

considering the guy who was selling a ton of s. revolvers for 3.66 sold over 4 of them pretty quick you could say, it's safe to say they sell a lot quicker at 3.66.

i meant the guy with more then -8 on his comment claiming all those links of SELLERS.

There's not enough proof of people failing to sell at 4 ref.

They aren't failing, they sell it, but it takes a while to sell. Which is why I put 4 ref as the high value.

However, there are also sellers who are asking for 3.66, and offers of 3.66 on buying trades.

Your suggestion is irrelevant if you can't prove that the current range is wrong. Sorry, downvote.

There are sellers for 3.66 if you even bothered looking.

Oh never mind.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10223123 sold many for 1 key, sold out. Just saying

Look at the dates kid! I can find people who sold buds for 26 keys 2 months ago too!

Ever heard of restocking?

So? http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10227401 (sold out as well)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11926579 Sold for a key.

You don't have any proof those sold, not to mention there's a bunch of trades selling for 4 ref.

Your L3 for 3.66 sellers is actually for 4, and has many adds. I don't think 3 links is enough to prove the low end of the range. And 2/3 links sold extremely fast.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12439840 5 days

That's a 3.77 seller, I'm talking about how 3.66 is invalid.

Uhm, 3rd 3.66 link sold 4+ of them but yeah sure, I could get some more links, I found some successful buyers at 3.66 yesterday and lost the links. I'm busy pretty right now. I'll post them tomorrow?

Sure.

By the way, yesterday he changed the price on my link 3, didn't pay attention to what you said there.

http://puu.sh/3C9qh.png - 13 classified. 13 classified. This alone shows that the current range is fine. The one and only 3.88 seller, NOT a 3.66 seller does not justify the whole market. Anywho...

Counterproof

BUYERS AT 4 REF

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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12629384 - willing to 1:1 Filamental (4.33)

http://bazaar.tf/trade/304274

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12640238 - lol

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12604531

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12590536

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12585588

SOLD AT 4 REF

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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12606344

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12602448

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12601122

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12599350

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12598878

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12595467

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12583618

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12576198

That's not even counter SELLERS with 4 ref. 4 ref is clearly the dominant price for the revolver. Anything less is a uncommon occurrence. If I added sellers, that would be really cruel, considering that the classified alone is sufficient.

Also you're proof for 3.66 sellers isn't that solid. Downvote.

COMEON MAN UP VOTE THIS WHO CARES ABOUT PROFF

if proof wasnt important, people could start posting random prices. for all you know, keys could be worth a scrap and buds will worth refines

i know lol

oh and btw i was being sarcastic.........

sounds good to me.

These aren't buyers, they are quickbuyers looking to get a s. revolver quick.

Notice how none of them have stock, and they bought it in a minute to a day.

psst. i was replying to the one saying "if proof wasnt important, people could start posting random prices. for all you know, keys could be worth a scrap and buds will worth refines."

All of your sold at 4 ref trades support my high range, so thanks on that.

The buyers of 4 ref were quickbuys, all the trades were completed in less than a day, just like how 3.33 was quicksells.

I'm just saying that 4 ref is clearly the dominant price for the market as the classified alone proves it. Anything less is a quicksell and if the buyers were quickbuys, that may be true in a certain extent but if there is that much willing buyers at 4 ref for a mid-tier strange, then there is no reason to change the price. Also you should keep a mental note that buyers > sellers.

Sellers > Quickbuyers

All of your buying for 4 ref links are bought in less than a day. That supports my high value because you wait to sell the revolver at 4 refined or it's a quickbuyer.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12436144

got a buyer at 4 ref just an hour ago

.....what?

i am saying that the trade proof got a buyer for 4 ref

ah ok I get it

Well, his trade was open for a week, 4 ref is my high value, so thanks for the support.

That supports my high value, since it does manage to take him a week to sell.

I should be getting some more proof up for the low value later too.

Not enough proof to justify a price drop. Not to mention this was raised only 7 days ago. Down vote.

Any counterproof or just predictions again?

Show me a buyer for 4 refined who's gone a day without a buy and i'll close this.

Just because someone bought something in less than 24 hours, doesn't necessarily mean that it's a quicksell. If anything, it's a right and fair price.

So there's sellers for 3.66?

Is that not a right and fair price?

Because it's a quicksell? Nice try scraping those proof from trade.tf btw

Then why are there so many sellers, and the buyers who bought for 4 ref buy it in less than a day in all your links?

Why would I procure counter proof when you have barely any proof to begin with?

8 links for the low end followed by some mid ranged proof and lots of unsold 4 ref trades on tf2outpost. You're just making predictions and flagging my comments which is funny.

If you think my suggestion is off, show me a buyer who didn't buy a s. revolver for 4 ref in a day, i'll give you my backpack and close my trade :)

Show me there isn't sellers for 3.66 as well.

Not enough proof to justify a price drop. Not to mention this was raised only 7 days ago. Down vote.

More spam?

More 3.66 sellers:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12692938

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12682305

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12615563

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12637323

3.77:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12652069

Bills: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12642238 (quicksell)

I'll be back later to review/add more proof if needed.

lol that bills

backpack.tf:

http://backpack.tf/stats/210/11/0

9x sellers at 4 refined

1x seller at 3.88 refined

tf2outpost:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12593030 selling as a set(more than 4 refined)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12640598 1 key

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12663483 1.5 keys (with parts)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12552904 4 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12670833 4 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12549773 4 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12693738 4 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12604337 4 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12497593 1 key

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12653044 4 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12665414 4 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11561312 2.85 keys (with parts)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12552402 4 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12648095 4.66 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12217413 4 refined

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12495809 4.33 refined

4 refined is where the s. revolver should be right now. I foresee a price bump in the future though, the only buyers at 3 to 3.66 refined are people trying to turn a quick profit.

barack, your logic is very backwards. if people are offering 4 refined and they get it within a day, that justifies the 4 refined price. there are almost no sellers under 4 refined.

edit: you're the one that is supposed to be providing proof, and currently what you have is completely lacking in your defense. it's quite obvious to see that 4 refined is a good price for the revolver.

Then why are there sellers 3.66. You literally attempted to show proof, but that's not proof. It's showing that it's hard to sell for 4 ref since none of your trades sold.

You just posted links of B/o's which don't matter unless they're below the current price.

How about you list some successful 3.66 buyers?

Someone offered to sell theirs for 4 ref, trade owner declined:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11684625

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11740019

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12097586

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12063814

Some succesful 3 ref quicksells on this trade: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10676916

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12520878

Offer of 3.33:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12254994

Buying for 3.33: (bought 1+) http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10564370

Offer of 3.66:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10323620

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12035478

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12658767

Only less than 2 pages on outpost

Buyers here are supporting the low value.

You still don't have much proof. I feel like you are doing this purely for a +1 to your contributor status.

You don't have any counterproof, stop trying to troll around here, flag more of my comments too pls.

I don't even like backpack.tf if you haven't noticed kid...

I provided quite a bit of counter proof, as did Kodorin. Put together we just about doubled the amount of proof you have. Oh you don't like backpack.tf? Why do you have 586 contributor points then, as well as donor status? It also says you're a "pricing expert" but based on this current thread, and the fact that you went 62.5% out of only 8 votes last month I would disagree with that. Not to mention you flame everyone that disagrees with you. You're a talking contradiction.

Posting B/O's does not count as counterproof.

As long as there's sellers for 3.66 you're wrong, there's enough to modify the price.

Nice 63% by the way. I don't flame, but you flag every comment i make.

I went higher than you out of 98 votes. You voted 8 times and get a less percentage than me. You don't know prices worth a shit, and you obviously have no life, because you make price suggestions that arent needed.

Damn, you're so mad right now it's hilarious. You dislike every comment I make, stop posting pointless comments, it's annoying and you're just spamming my suggestion.

Gigabyte: Ignore the rules guys, i'm just gonna talk shit to other players because I own a strange revolver and I don't want the price to drop on my $2 backpack.

Community: Wow good idea.

Also, how is this suggestion not needed? Why are people selling S. Revolvers for 3.66? Hmmmmm?

It'd probably be better for you to stop making predictions about everything.

The only "counterproof" you could call it that, that i've heard from you is that I somehow want more contributor status. Well, that wouldn't be fair to make assumptions, because both you and KoDoRiN have low valued backpacks and own one, so it's probably not best to say i'm doing this for contributor status...

L1 of offer of 3.66, you're bound to get something good after two months and 1600 views.

L2, 500 views, no revolver in his bp

L3, no revolver yet, can't assume yet.

Oh and the reason why there are declined trades at 4 ref is because they're obvious highballers.

Hmm...

These are buyers, you didn't pay attention to the fact that he asked for buyers.

L1 doesn't matter, he bought one recently

L2 & L3 have OFFERS of 3.66,

They aren't "highballers either" they are buyers, who buy for the low value and sell for the high value.

Oops I meant lowballers lol

It's going down but 3.66-4 ref that's super high I tried to sell at that price IMPOSSIBLE 3 ref is easier but the price is dropping so sell while u cann

There's still sellers who manage to sell for 3.66 but don't take a week to sell

Downvote. sells so fast for 4ref. recntly i putt one for 4ref on tf2op and one guy added me paying a key for ir D:

So? I put http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11926579 up for 4 refined and someone paid a key, does that mean that 1 trade effects the price? Are strange huo's 1 key now?

I didnt say that the price should change to 1key. It was an example for how much people want it. The one that added me was ready to pay more. I never had problems to sell it for 4ref pretty quick.

As you can see, most of the backpack.tf community disagrees with you. There's sellers for 3.66 who can sell it pretty quick, and buyers who received offers of 3.33-3.66.

I was suggested to make this suggestion from my other suggestion which was closed.

SUMMARY OF PROOF FOR SUGGESTION

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[Remaining (still valid) and new trades selling for:

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3.33: (QS)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12740056

3.66:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12682305

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12615563

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12730451

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12700162

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12455997

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12733336

3.77:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12439840

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12652069

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12588738

3.88:

2 on classifieds for a while

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12744540

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12709512

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12737765

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Trades that have been completed or closed

3.33:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12620188

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12577331

3.66:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12418285 (Sold 4 at this price then changed price to 4 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12577475

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12621537

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12692938

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12637323

3.77:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12602780

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Buyers trades (I don't really like these types of trades):

There are also some buyers who bought for 3 ref, but those are quicksells of couse

3.33: (1 was a buy, other was a offer)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10564370

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12254994

Received offers of 3.66:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10323620

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12035478

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12658767

Declined 4 ref offers:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11684625

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11740019

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12097586

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12063814

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Proof for high value (4 refined):

All over tf2outpost, someone in comments supplied some.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12606344

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12602448

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12601122

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12599350

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12598878

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12595467

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12583618

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12576198

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Once again, it's hard to get most of these links because most of the trades on outpost are asking for backpack.tf or spreadsheet prices only.

My gut feels like I messed up the order in some links. So some links might be placed in the wrong section.

Also, some people say that there are people that sell it for 4 ref. YES I know this, can you guys stop saying this... 4 refined is included in the high value showing that it is still possible, except I applied proof that you can buy them for 3.66 also.