Suggestion: Bill's Hat at 7.55–7.8 keys

Yeah man. If anything it sells just as fast at 8 keys as at 7.8 keys. People who are willing to overpay are the same lazy people who would in fact just prefer to buy 8 keys than to convert to 7 keys + 4 ref. Still sells for 8 keys although it takes a few days

8* keys are still happening? And here I am selling 4-5 Bill's daily for 7 keys + 1.33/2 ref :(

I need to learn the secrets of trading :)

My exact reaction. Some sellers at 7.55 - 7.8 have not even sold yet.

Rogue, there are quickbuyers for 7+2-4. Don't know why you would sell for less.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12762066 - buyer for 8 keys

http://bazaar.tf/trade/310866

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12785108

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12769698

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12768599

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12759254

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12767275

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12774240

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12780260

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12800987

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12798004

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12745005

And I have a ton more at 7+2. but that doesn't really help with this suggestion. A lot of these don't. More for you Rogue - don't sell yourself short.

They are not all buying links, more then half are selling links. You might need to check them again, But again all of these do not support your argued 8 keys sales. All these are supporting proof to OP's suggestion.

Ah and yes if I sold my bill's to them, first I had to wait, then I would have an gained extra ref but where are 8 key sales ??? I want to sell my bill's hat for 8 keys too :(

These are all buyers just for you, Rogue :).

If I were to check my inventory history then I will not be surprised if half of them turned out to be my customers :)

But I need 8 keys :)

All of those buyers have successfully bought rather quickly, which doesn't really help support 8 keys.

Where is this magical sale of 8 keys? is there a link to it? proof would be nice

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12762066 - buyer

Its a troll link, no bill's in his backpack. And its just a link from yesterday. Also I did check the backpack of people who posted on his page. Some of them are not sold and on some the bill's history does not trace back to the said buyer.

Simply not true. He bought one of these as you can see quite plainly from the history on the keys and the bills - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12760834

Ah yes he bought a LIME painted one, which again puts this link of yours well beyond this suggestion then. Remember its painted + he paid an extra ref on top of 8 keys :).

Lol and just 1 willing 8 keys buyer for a currency like bills?

On the side note, I bought some white bill's recently too for 7 keys :P

The point is that he was a willing buyer at 8 keys for any bill's. An item is valued by what a buyer is willing to buy at and what a seller is willing to sell at.

Anyways, no point arguing about this any more. I'm done with bill's suggestions. I made the one at 7.75-8.

It's painted lime. Sure, it is subjective from buyer to buyer, but irrelevant in that aspect.

The only comments in this thread should be:

- proof of sales at 8 keys to counter this suggestion

- more proof of sales in this range

- analysis of the current proof

unsupported comments and opinions do nothing to help the mods with their decision.

Oh really?

Contrary to popular beliefs, sarcasm is quite helpful.

just checking your unsold links

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12622629 sold

only flaw i could find. expect that maybe the ones month(s) old are all buying and seller, so have probbably sold some also.

I am assuming you are talking about Swedish Hunter? He bought a TS one.

im talking about marty, the one it sold to, listed by the item history.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12798004 - 9 keys for TS

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12762066 - 8 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12753696 - 8 keys

only ~~ones~~ buyer trades I could find. all bought rather quickly

but that happens with most items in general, if you'd post a trade buying an item for the high-end of the range you get interest rather quickly.

true, I only looked at buyer trades, which was an oversight.

Having looked at all of these, I don't think we can remove the 8 Keys from the range yet.

EDIT: My own trade.

http://puu.sh/3FqJg.PNG --- The trade.

http://puu.sh/3FqK7.PNG --- The Ambassador from the trade.

4 Keys pure.

3.8 for the Ambassador.

+ 1 Refined = 8 Keys, right? I didn't care about overpay, as I needed another Amby.

For an item such as the bill's hat, those unsolds are still valid proof.

Oh please tell me how can we find sold ones unless seller has many.

He edited his comment, he first said all his unsolds are too young and invalid proof.

*Clears throat* I didn't say all of them were, I just said some of them were.

Once again people trying to make me look bad.

you can find sold ones if you make a trade on outpost with a key on the left and bills on the right, then press matches. (trade has to be still open, but item can be greyed out)

Them unsolds are so young. Take into account please the Summer Sale craze. Everyone (or at least a big amount of people) is looking for keys to cash them in the market or externally to buy discounted games. So it makes sense that not many are looking to trade their keys for items that can't be sold as easily as keys.

its not impossible to sell @8

cool, perhaps you sold some yourself for 8 keys recently?

I have seen them selling for 8 on servers although I cannot prove it they do sell just demand is low

I will not argue about trade servers but I would like to add that demand has not reduced, just the buying price has dropped well below 7.5 keys.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12762066

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12753696

Whenever there's a person buying for 8 keys its a mad rush to trade them, 8 keys may no longer be possible.