Suggestion: The Delinquent's Down Vest at 1.4–1.8 keys

This item is at a pretty obvious standstill at 2 keys, no willing buyers since many pop up for cheaper. Sellers are hard pressed to get 2 keys when so many more of these keep entering the market. There are sellers below the suggested range as well, but they typically had several comments stating "added" and can be assumed quicksells for now.

Some more proof of my range, lots of sellers popping up lately near the high end.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12982517 - 1.77 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12980385 - 1.77 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12982216 - 1.71 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12985151 - 1.71 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12968628 - 1.71 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12983892 - 1.71 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12982858 - 1.71 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12944686 - 1.71 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12964459 - 1.53 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12984135 - 1.41 keys

More proofs I guess:

http://imgur.com/FNQCwo7 - Classifieds, 4 in range

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13017073 - 1.82 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13012381 - 1.82 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13033652 - 1.71 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12994969 - 1.71 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12992067 - 1.71 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12982858 - 1.71 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13029409 - 1.59 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13033697 - 1.53 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13007912 - 1.53 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13031403 - 1.53 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13033125 - 1.53 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13018699 - 1.47 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12984135 - 1.42 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13032093 - 1.36 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13003440 - 1.36 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13029027 - 1.36 keys

i bought this for 4ref lol ur range is high

My friend bought it for 1.66 ref hat, that doesnt mean anything because obviously just like 4 ref it was a quicksell price :p

he probably didn't even buy it for 4 refs

This is one of those suggestions where i feel like i'm gambling rep with a vote either way. I think a range might be better than the current price, but it's probably best to keep 2 keys in the range for now.

Sold mine very easily at 2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13018082

maybe i got lucky but i sold it within the hour of posting

there's no reason to include the first unsolds, they got no bumps for almost a week ago some of them. Seeing that most of them are being advertised for 2 keys I will suggest you still include 2 keys in the Price range, because it's not impossible to sell this for 2 keys and advertising them at lower than 2 keys is still not a trend.

I will suggest you trying to make a more conservative Price drop

You happen to have any solds at 2 keys?

yeah http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12757086

I was looking for offers, received 2 times a 2 key offer, I ended up selling it for 2 keys. I just kept my lvl 69 one, that one I sold it. Also check your Young 2 keys unsolds

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12918434 sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12928409 sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12942318 sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12941847 sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12942871 sold

Clearly 2 keys it's still the right Price, there's enough proof that this item doesn't need a Price drop right now.

I voted yes . Because after the holidays, and so far as the price drops from the track Terrorizer

same as with suggestions, you should vote based on facts and evidence - not just because it makes sense to you that the price would change

I bought one for one key: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12866285

The price needs to go down on most summer items

in your post you specified you were quickbuying those items, so it was a quickbuy

Sorry, i'm kind of new to this sight. I wasn't aware that quickbuys didn't count

Nice proof :) Upvote, wanna get me one of these myself!

so you only want this to drop so you can buy one cheap? Do you even took the time to open the links of the unsolds to see that most of them are sold for 2 keys and this suggestion is trying to discard 2 keys from the Price range?

Check backpacks over closed trades, many sellers in the second bunch that are "sold" still have the item in their backpack and just relisted.

can you be more specific of which links? I already checked the backpacks of the ones I marked as sold for 2 keys, and they don't have that specific item, consider that some of those ads are people who got several pieces or they uncrate / buy more and keep selling them, that's why they appear to be "unsolds".

Your whole comment sums up why unsolds generally aren't good proof. I think that enough sales are happening in my suggested range to encourage a drop, since this is a new crate item and literally thousands are being added a day to the game.

you are just evading the fact that there's proof that this sells for 2 keys and you are trying to discard 2 keys from the range, also try checking backpack history or just simply by comparing item levels between the one being advertised and the one that it's in the backpack so you can see what I'm talking about,

no, the ones who are selling another down vest are not relisted. If you check they have different level, one person did relist but sold his for a S. shotgun

Thankfully the entire community isn't like you,otherwise buds would worth a scrap.

Just bought one for a key http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12981545#p41811570

every seller in the classifieds that were selling below 2 keys has sold. not sure if 1.4 keys is a bit low.

bigg mann of campus is the new shirt with less demand, there's more outpost ads than this one, and it's 1.5- 2 keys, seems that the one that should be dropped to 1.4-1.8 keys should be Bigg mann of campus not this.

I noticed, and every one at 2 keys still has it. The classifieds are a pretty good indicator at which price moves.

just consider this suggestion was made more than 2 days ago, and you are checking ads that are more recent than this suggestion, because the ones that you posted as "Young unsolds" most of them are sold. So this must be totally sold out from the whole market in order to you can close this suggestion?

seems 1.7-1.8 would be more accurate since almost all the 1.7 has sold and you had 3 trades for 1.4

agreed it costs WAY too much right now some of the new items really need a fix.

Your 2 keys unsolds keep selling:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12842470 sold for 2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12855031 sold for 2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12851465 sold for 2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12873723 sold for 2 keys

This add to the previous links I posted, making now at least 9 links of sold for 2 keys at the moment of posting this comment

I really suspect that this is happening because of the current price listing here on backpack. Seems like the price should be dropped a bit, but 2 keys should be the upper bound of the range.

I was thinking of maybe a 1.8-2 keys range will be fine, but is very hard to find one of this for less than 2 keys, actually finding one for less than 2 keys is even more rare than finding one for more than 2 keys

Unsolds links must be bumped. So most of your unsold link can't be used as proof. That's mean links 1, 6, 7, 8 and 9. So all of you unsold links are finally sold/unbumped. Not only that, link no. 7 is asking for higher then 2 keys (2 summer keys>2 regular keys) so it's not even in current range, and it can't be used as proof, again. Young unsold for 2 keys are not proof either, as few hours trade can't be used as proof.

If you don't mind me asking, how can you guys tell whether something is being bumped? Obviously you can see if the trade was bumped recently and when it was originally made, but people always seem to know exactly how many times it's been bumped and I don't see where they're getting that info.

IDK if 2 keys should be removed just yet. I just sold mine for 2 keys and it was up for 13 hours (5-6 hours being actively bumped due to sleep).

http://i.imgur.com/RorzwW7.jpg

just found another one sold for 2 keys http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12945556

of the 3 keys he got on his backpack, 2 came from the new owner of the vest.

xD I can't even upvote, it's maxed out already.

I reccomend a range of 1.5-2 keys, as people have seemed to sell easily at 2 keys

Undecided atm.

Too many sales at 2 keys for that to be taken out of range. A more conservative drop is needed here.

Closing due to counterproof in comments.