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I believe Bill's should be bumped down. Proof:
http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/bill's%20hat
-13 sellers at 7 or below.
-20 sellers at 7.2-7.5
Unsold- under 24 hours
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13190659 7 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13179722 7 keys, 7 keys 2 ref (TS)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13173535 7 keys 2.33
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13186076 7 keys 3 ref (TS)
Unsold- over 24 hours
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13123550 7 keys (Greed), 7 keys 2 ref (Lime, Pink), 8 keys (Tinge, White)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13102046 7 keys (Olive)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13150287 7 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13153870 7 keys (Lime)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13163666 7 keys 3 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13139515 8 keys (Tinge)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13111766 8 keys 1 ref (Tinge)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13131446 8 keys 1 rec (Hue)
Unsold- over 4 days
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12355233 7 keys 1 ref (Greed) *3 weeks*
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13067046 7 keys 2 ref (After Eight)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12906653 7 keys 2 ref (Gold,Lab,Overalls,Grey,etc.)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12990503 7 keys 3 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12767085 8 keys *negotiable* (Lime)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12909718 8 keys (Lime/Pink)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12929092 8 keys 2 ref (Tinge)
Unsold- over 1 month
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12158672 8 keys (TS) *sold 1/4*
Sold-
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13024413 7 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12767085 7 keys 2 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10710968 7 keys 3 ref, 8 keys (Lime/Lab/Debonair), 8 keys 2 ref (Hue/Tinge)
Conclusion.
You can find unpainted in 7-7.5.
You can find low tier paint in 7-7.5.
You can find medium tier paint in 7-8.
You can find high tier paint in 7.5-8.5.
proof of 7.5?
Conservative bump. There are still probably sellers at 7.5 that are successful.
Look at the links with 7 keys 3 ref. There is your high end proof. I didn't know what else to put it to since it goes for over 7 as well but not even at 7 keys 4 ref.
you need way more proof, there are like 20+ pages
man its even hard to sell for 7 keys flat :/
If it didn't work last time, what makes you think it'll work this time?
Hope, and better proof now? There's a lot more 7 key sellers on the market and they aren't quicksells anymore.
Fair enough. This things are so damn controversial though.
You stole my words, Unknown. Yes, here is MY suggestion, the rare one that is not a troll one. Haha :) I have enough proof right?
Dunno man. With things like this, you need all the proof you can get. Over time just keep adding more and more links to make this stronger.
Honestly this is the same thing regarding keys in backpack.tf. THEY STILL SAY IT'S 5.66-5.77 when really it's pretty much 5.88-6 ref now. This should have been long updated before, the market is way ahead of .tf regarding Bill's.
Glad of your braveness to suggest on such a controversial item, you are gonna get a lot of hate without enough solid proof. :)
It is 3 am here so I must sleep but I don't want future voters to downvote due to proof issues. If you find any other proof you can post it. When I wake up I will get more. Dear voters, if you are reading this and think there is not enough proof, hold on we're getting more.
For something that is almost accepted as currency, you'll need a lot more links than this.
Yeah, but it seems people are losing faith in Bill's as currency...I'm seeing a fair few trades where people are refusing them, or valuing them less. I don't see them going up to 8 keys again any time soon.
Should go up because you don't get them anymore.
In that case, does that mean Ellis should go up too?
ellis cap is still possible to get..
Vintage Pyrovision Goggles are a better example
It should have just been 7-8 keys, seems more cleaner and reasonable.