Suggestion: Dead Presidents Horrific Headsplitter at 168.8–175.15 keys

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~11.5 keys

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This suggestion was accepted Sun, 04 Aug 13 05:50:03 +0000 by SirJjjon.

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Resubmitting with a more accurate price range. Offers have been all over the place with this hat, likely because there has been substantial hype over this and all unusual headsplitters, so I am going by the sales to determine the price range.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12696539 - sold for Cloudy Moon El Jefe, would be ~24 normally, but I checked it's history and it appears it's duped. Offers show it falls in the ~17.3-19.1 range, but I am seeing from many sources that this offer/sale was retracted.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12838534 - B/O 16 buds, offers of:

-HOUWAR + sweets (11.5 + ?, calling it 12 to be conservative)

-Anti Freeze Cold Killer + 1(~10.1)

-GBH HWNN + sulph HWNN, which were quicksold for a total of 13 buds: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12970401 , he was probably valuing them at quicksale prices in this case also, so I won't really consider this offer in pricing.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13118763 - B/O HOUWAR or 13 in overpay

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13102814 - also wanted a HOUWAR

Sold with C. Bubbles Pot(~2.5) for scorching towering pillar(~9.15 mid price): http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13118768

9.15 - 2.5 = 6.65

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12601303 - not sold yet, but interesting offers

-Cloudy Moon Tree(~8.1 with overpay)

-V. Buds(31) <- easily outliar

-Cauldron Executioner(~11.6)

-Miami Kabuto(no price)

-GBH Bonk Boy(no price)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13118763 - most recent sale, sold for Cloud 9 Fez(~4) + L1 Max(2) + Steaming Trilby(~19 keys) + minor sweets = ~6.9 buds

http://i.imgur.com/hlLkzqy.png - everything from the v pyrovision to the trilby was from Cpt.YeahToast

also http://backpack.tf/id/76561198045742783?time=1374994800 -> http://backpack.tf/id/76561198045742783?time=1375081200

That is all.

Duped v.buds are more like 11~ atm.

I'm sorry, but where does the cloudy moon jefe come in? Or the HOUWAR, HWWN offer, or more than half the other offers as well? This is an easy downvote, since this range doesn't even come close to this item's selling price.

You realize that the range is only defined by selling prices, the way you talk it's as if you didn't read anything I wrote. As for the cloudy moon jefe, it was traded back because the buyer wanted to trade back, therefore the sale is retracted. That would be obvious to people who have done the research on this hat.

Many of the offers posted here are ones that I gathered in my first attempted suggestion for this hat. They are from the time when the hype for this brand new unusual effect + new unusual hat was high, hence offers were very high. I closed my own old suggestion and resubmitted it after reviewing one sale and finding another. I simply posted all the data I had gathered up until now here in this suggestion so everything is on the table at once.

You're wrong about that. the seller of the headsplitter wanted the headsplitter back. It was retracted because he considered the cloudy moon jefe to be worth less than his hat. You ignored the miami kabuto, GBH bonk boy, and cauldron executioner offers, even though they are easily worth more than 7 buds.

I ignored the hats with new effects because they do not have prices listed, and I don't have the time to do price suggestions on every offer that involves an unpriced hat. As for the cauldron executioner, it was 2-3 weeks ago which is nearly half of the entire existing life of this hat, plus the guy hid his own post without a response from the owner.

miami nights kabuto has an offer of knifestorm kabuto + cauldron bubbles kabuto, which is more than 7 buds. and the guy was rejected, he did not retract. The headsplitter has an offer from 3 hours ago of a bubbling brotherhood and 1 bud. The bortherhood has an offer of an orbiting fire team captain (7.3-8 and outdated price, prob more). That's 8.3-9 at least and only a few hours old.

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51f6396eba2536072c000027

here is the proofs for the scorching tower pillar of hats and it is valid i was going to suggest it but i was second. upvoted you got the range right this time you have calculated overpay and have more sales on it as well.

upboat

i have an offer of a roboactive grenadiers softcap.i will only assume the range by antifreeze price so 7.3 is what those go for

i also asked him to add

if this trade completes will provide proofs for both hats since softcap is not priced yet as well

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12838534\

sold for kill a watt well rounded riflrman+cloudy moun gheisa boy=5.5+2.5=8 buds

here is the offers on the well rounded rifleman 1 of 1 in the market. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13051000 best rejected offer Green energie reggelator 5.5 buds

bump sold mine for roboactive front runner + sweets 10-12 buds

I am so confused at this point. Do you support this price suggestion or not?

headsplitters are a headache to price....

i cant trace any scout roboactive hat priced i only found gbh and tw.

looks like roboactive is higher with antifreeze selling in the same and above range.i will try to see if i can price the front runner from previous sells so we can get a better range i suggest to keep it open until i get more data.if i fail to do it in time.i will try to ressugest for the headsplitter in a later rime.

it is a shame to price it that low if the front runner can fetch above 7-8 !

I originally resubmitted this from the other range partly because of the counterproof you provided that it was too high.

i know it is partly my bad but as an owner of the hat the price looked a little to high until i got this deal today.. i am working on a price for the front runner i will link you so you can see the data yourself until now i have 1 confirmed trade for a cloudy moon cosa nostra 8.9-10.6 buds.it is a ridle!to many hats without a price !

i will downvote this after all!sorry.i cant price it and if this suggestion pass it will be very very wrong for the owners of it...

http://i.imgur.com/GQwn2Tq.png

here some minor sweets on the hat and the trade was smooth both hats are clean and the roboactive has a confirmed sell on cloudy moon cosa nostra so the range is higher

i can only guess that because of the 5 dead presidents headsplitter owners there was a quicksell race some sold for low but the true offers have yet to come.and as halloween aproach this hat will only rise... it was my bad for you resuggesting the price...

i didnt expect it either.

I honestly doubt halloween would have any effect on the price of its hat. Nobody I've ever known tries to convert all their unusuals into Halloween themed unusuals during halloween.

Also, after doing the front runner, looks like it turned out to be ~8.7. The next highest offer would be the anti freeze cold killer+1(~10.1) and the HOUWAR(12) both made around the same time. So if I were to resubmit the likeliest range would be 8.7-12, so I don't know...

Also, 6.9-8.7 might be possible, but that still ignores the 6.65 sale.

i think the 6.65 its an outlier and a quicksell given the short time the trade took place.

the 8.7-12 is a wide range a 8.7-10is more accurate i guess.

i would love an admin to pop up and check out the links and the trades and suggest something as more experienced in the matter.

Same here, just don't close it. I just need advice on this before making a move if a move need be made.

Well, after Woifi suggested that I redo the roboactive front runner suggestion, that sale actually fits around the top of this range now. I think I'm going to leave this one open then.