Suggestion: The Fast Learner at 3–3.33 ref

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The Fast Learner

Submitted Sun, 04 Aug 13 16:06:47 +0000 by ★ Markasz

76.79%

3.33 ref

3–3.33 ref

~2.39 ref

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Selling under 3.33 (3-3.22)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13357824 3 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13358180 3 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13335196 3 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13352151 3.22 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13354238 3 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13351238 3.22 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13332666 3 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13238332 3 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13354905 3 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13292929 3 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13350420 3 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13161281 3 ref (got offered 2.88 and accepted it)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13257874 3.22 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13358070 2.66 ref

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/fast%20learner 2 at 3 refined and tons at 3.33

Just tell me if you need 3.33 unsolds, i'll provide them if needed.

Please show more proof, 14 links is not enough

Lol 14 links I'm pretty sure is more than enough.

Every bloody time I get something of ANY value, it goes down. For ****'s sake, first the Cut Throat, then Bill's, then the Strange Amby, now this. WHEN. WILL. IT. END?!

In any case... Some of your 3 ref sellers sell out nearly instantly. Not sure on this one.

EDIT: Also, Link #1 is selling for 3.33, not 3 flat. Link #13 is barely bumped. Link #15 sold instantly, as did Link #12. Links #11 and #10 barely bumped as well, Link #9 on auto-bump with an inattentive trade owner.

You're using invalid, unbumped trades as proof, and the ones that do sell for 3 Ref seem to go almost immediately.

In classifieds one for 3 ref "Posted 15 hour ago" so that not instantly but still its only one. Neutral :|

Fair enough, but I rest my case.

Still my point is, even if this price drop is justifiable, he needs to prove it, which thus far he hasn't done very good on.

almost all of these are bumped, if they were to sell that fast at 3 as you said all of these would have sold already, anyway seller at 2.66 couldn't sell at 3 so he even lowered his price, you can see his previous trade at 3 in the list. 12th link was sold to the guy who is now trying to resell it at 3.22 (also in my list). as far as 11 and 10 goes they haven't been bumped only a few hours, wouldn't call them "barely bumped"

*Clears throat* Outpost has over seven pages of trades that have been bumped within the last 30 minutes alone. I'd say 1-4 hours is long enough.

Also, 3.22 trader doesn't count. His trade was last bumped 2 days ago (WHAT?!)

2 days ago, now that's barely bumped, not a couple of hours, and the one trade is a few days old anyway so it got bumped til he went somewhere. And still i only got a few of these, not the whole proof is barely bumped

Can you argue that 3 Refined is not a quick-sell?

Show me some links bumped at least every hour that don't sell within the hour they're posted and I'll be convinced. But for now, you just don't have enough proof to change my mind.

But can you argue that its a quicksell? Your arguments are 2 trades which sold instantly and one was at 2.66 and other was sold to a 3.22 reseller also you just have looked into those links which in your opinion are "barely bumped" when they are not and you act like other links don't exist. And out of those 7 pages+ like 90% are those 5 months old trades where they are selling at like 5 keys or whatever. Anyway I'm gathering more proof, i'll try getting enough.

Please note that's not why I'm against this, though. I'm against it because his proof to change the price is inherently flawed.

Oh i know, he needs more valid proof that people sell for 3 ref and that its part of the range

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13358612

Close, but he hasn't bumped it since the trade opened. Two more minutes invalidates it for me.

He's still a willing seller at 3 refined

So are the ones whose trades have gone hours without being bumped.

You see what I'm getting at here.

But allow me to lay this conversation to rest before it escalates.

And again you're mentioning those, there are only a few "rarely bumped" trades how you say.

No response. I'm done as you obviously won't stop on your own.

The first guy ended up selling at 2.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13356590

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13348215

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13346922

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13328881

Link #1: Sold within minutes of posting for 2.88 (Pointless)

Link #2: Hasn't been bumped since it was opened (14 hours ago)

Link #3: Sold almost instantly for 2.66 (Also doesn't help)

Link #4: Also sold instantly for 2.66 (Nope)

None of these help your cause. If anything they prove that 3 Refined and under is a quicksell.

if they sell at even less than 3 refined, that means 3 refined is not a quicksell anymore, lower prices are, I don't know what are you so obsessed about, just because 2.66 sellers sold almost instantly no surpise they sold instantly and there were quite a few willing sellers at 2.66, all of these help my case, if 3 refined and below are quicksells then there are a damn lot willing "quicksellers"

I'll bring a few 3.33 unsolds to help my case

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13373448

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13347089

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13368371

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13273802

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13298011

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13356775

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12805630

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13351115

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13351768

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13374426

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13368432

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13354887

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13208288

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13352156

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12991957

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12883317

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13362105

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13343773

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13344283

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13370665

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13371696

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13302459

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13372550

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13270438

another at 3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13367627

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13372758

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13369033

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13369177

3 Ref Sellers:

Link #1: Has only been bumped a few times since opened. (User IS online, I checked.)

Link #2: Hasn't been bumped since it was opened.

Link #3: Bumped maybe once since it was opened.

Link #4 is actually the second one I've seen that DIDN'T sell instantly and had an attentive trader.

Gone from against this to neutral, but I'm still skeptical.

Also check your unsolds. Most have sold or are rather young.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13377987

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13376835

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13369732

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13366279

Link #1: Sold instantly.

Link #2: Just... WHAT THE **** IS THAT EVEN DOING HERE?!

Link #3: Sold instantly.

Link #4: According to item history, it changed hands within 30 minutes of posting.

Didn't you say you'll stop posting here? Anyway I think i proved my point, no reason to argue over the same thing when you just repeat the same bs no matter what i say. Who cares if it was bumped or not, they're still willing sellers and there are quite a lot of them, if u wanna argue at least bring counter proof

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13380732

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13380370

Link #1: Sold instantly.

Link #2: Hasn't been bumped since opened.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13381198

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13379460

Neither of these have been bumped since it was open.