Suggestion: Bill's Hat at 6.5–6.7 keys

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~3.68 keys

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385 votes down

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This suggestion was accepted Sat, 17 Aug 13 05:54:05 +0000 by Puddilicious.

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~~Oh god so many Chromatic Painted bills~~

DAMN IT WRONG VALUE LAST TIME

anyways

SELLERS AT 6.5-6.7:

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/51fff8fc4bd7b8b00200000d (look at all those 6.5, and some with paint even)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13653722 (6 keys 2 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13665028 (7 Keys, But painted TS)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13397714 (6 keys 3 ref, also painted)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13560074 (6 keys 2 Ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13578421 (6 keys 2.66 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13677098 (6 Keys 3 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11744830 (6 Keys 3 Ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13674178 (6 keys 2 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13659641 (6 Keys 2 Ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13638218 (6.5 Keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13644749 (also 6.5 Keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13627590 (Also 6.5 Keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13659522 (agaon, 6.5 Keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13645485 (6 keys 1 ref?)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13624726 (6 Keys 3 Ref)

UNSOLDS AT 7-6.8 KEYS:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13438769 (1 week)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13654165 (23 hours)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13403758 (1 week)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13584721 (3 days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13574606 (3 days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13648252 (1 day, auto bump tho')

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13396711 (1 week)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13580571 (2 days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13605199 (2 Days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13662049 (14 Hours)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13570838 (4 days, bad bumping)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13614638 (2 Days)

Adding more as i find it

Never thought I would see Bill's go this low.

The price range isn't bad however you're probably going to need more proof than what you currently have.w

Just so you know you should look at the previous bills suggestions and see how much more proof you'll need...

Who here remembers when this was 8 keys? Anyways, WAY more proof needed.

But in the "past" when this was 8 keys, keys were around 1.30$ now they are around 2$. Go figure.

not yet $2, much available for $1.75-$1.85 USD.

Ah whoops. Well for me currency change/paypal fees make them around 2$ for me :l

I remember when it was 2 bills to a buds.

But yeah, this price seems to be where it is going. Not sure whether it is there yet though.

From what I can tell the range is accurate, and it seems like the actual range. You could use some more proof to convince others though. I guess I'll upvote.

Not to be too picky.... but selling =/= sold.

Errrr... He's lowering the price. But yeah, you're going to need more proof.

your lack of logic is quite ironic

he's trying to lower the price, not make it go up, that's why people selling for less and unsolds at higher are relevant

So you make posts just to get down voted. Interesting.

Anyways more proof on this bill's. Good luck.

I want to keep feeding this post, but at the same time; I feel as though I should be contributing to this price change.

Anyway, here's some proof: *note* These are sold ones...

Anyway, trade.tf says that the price should be around 6.35 keys : http://www.trade.tf/price/126/6

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/5200255bba2536053a000002 (This guy has 4 bills for sale, the regular for 6.39 keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13675049 (Sold 3 hours ago from this post, 6 keys for 1 white bills)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13671097 (sold a painted TS bills for 6 keys + 3 ref)

There's my insignificant proof of the week. I'll try to find another post next week that will be launched to fame with comments about my bad posts.

I love it when people say this just to sound smart.

I don't. It's kinda obnoxious.

can anyone tell me why it's dropping so fast, this year specifically?

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/3315-how-much-does-backpacktf-influence-prices/?hl=bill%26%2339%3Bs

This is totally true

In this case no. Bills doubled in USD price from keys and yet still stayed at 8 keys...it was gonna crash anyways lolol

just bp.tf speed up the process xD

This is also known as a bubble. If you've been alive for the past.... 5 years with a knowledge of the outside world, then you have already experienced a (economic) bubble. This economic bubble came from the real estate market, which I won't supply the reasons for 1) It's too long and complicated and you should know how to use Google 2) This is a trading website for tf2, not about real world economics (Though the principle's somewhat the same).

Anyways, though bills did rise to unsustainable measures, it was also because of the nature of tf2 economy and the introduction of trade.tf and backpack.tf (They help a lot of traders).

Keys going up refined going down promo's going down bills fluctuating

in that case then, bills should have started going down here when keys were 3-4 ref, not when they were 5.66 ref. It really just seems that bills caught up to the key rise.

though about the suggestion, there needs to be more proof of 6.5 keys as well as 7 keys unsolds. a mass sellers at 6.5 keys would do it for me

That's somewhat correct. Here's a link from a link provided by pyroman on the post above: http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/2670-accelerants-to-competition-in-the-tf2-economy/#entry28135

Bills essentially doubled in price comepared to last year because people didnt accept it took ages to sell at 8 keys. keys shot up x2 and bills still stayed the same.

Atm bills are slowly going back down to reflect it's suppossed value in usd thus the crahs

It's a good start and an accurate range, but you need far far more proof. Take a look at the last suggestion compared to the amount of links you have:

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5207b2bf4bd7b88078000016

Sorry mate, I gotta downvote.

There were a lot of 1 day old post, but i feel like those are to young to post.

i'm gonna add more proof, as i do see it everyday

One day old posts under the current range greatly strengthen your supported range, as it shows there are a lot of sellers willing to take less. Go ahead and post them. Obviously leave out quicksells (5 keys and outlier prices) but don't be afraid to list a young sale under the range because it's young. This is a currency item and you need as many links as possible.

sorry, i meant 1 day old un-solds at 7 keys

It´s really sad Bill´s is going down (for somebody, huh), anyway, i think it´s dropping because duplicating... If you look, every day is here new Bill´s hat... How is it even possible? How?

Well because there are a buttload of them, 168,012 to be precise (http://stats.tf/item/126/Bill%27s_Hat) and no bills are rarely duped compared to say level 1 and 7 max's heads.

According to stats, there are 6 new ones from the beginning of July. These are most likely not duped, since private backpacks don't show up on stats. If it says "new" it means a new one has been spotted.

Even if they were, a whopping 6 dupes won't crash a market when there are literally more than 150,000 of them.

keys up, bills down, it makes sense, and when (if) keys will drop this will go up.

Just how market goes; It's like a rule of thumb. Just glad it's not real life and being things important like food and real estate.

Distinctive Lack of Proof

I just sold my BAF Bill's for 6 keys 5 ref if that helps.

I'm hoping to see the price of the bill's become stable soon but to be honest I don't see it happening, people will only buy it under the backpack.tf price causing someone to suggest the price to go down, rinse and repeat until i see this hat in the crafting bin. I'm just glad i got mine sold in time.

Proof is good. upvote

Now hope to not see another one of these suggestions for a good while

its very easy to find people buying and selling that hat for 7 keys

is it really that easy, I just bought a Bill's hat for 5 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13430317 < I bought a Bill's Lime painted for 5 keys.. WTF!

Thats pretty much a quicksale, unfortunatley quicksells are not valid in the rules. i will post a link to it here check section 2b on suggestion guidlines http://backpack.tf/vote?showrules=1

hey i can bought a bill's hat for 1.33ref too, but quicksell dont count