Suggestion: Strange Shotgun at 1.3–1.5 keys

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~1.75 keys

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This suggestion was accepted Sun, 18 Aug 13 22:49:15 +0000 by SirJjjon.

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First suggestion; thought it'd be fun to try it out, even if I'm wrong (though from a decent amount of link-surfing I think the price has dropped a tad)

Quicksales:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13687630 1.2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13680814 1.2 keys, all sold obviously

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13680768 1 key

Selling for 1.3-1.5 (new price range):

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13654379 1.3 keys (1 key + 2 ref), no-autobump, 1 day old, unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13678407 1.3 sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13685952 1.3 keys unsold, 3 hours

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13685275 1.3 sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13684497 1.3 sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13684307 1.3 sold

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/520011f1ba25363f5d000008 Classifieds, many many many selling for well below 1.5, many selling in the 1.3 range

Selling at current price of 1.5:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13523232 1.5 keys, autobump, unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13682475 Selling at Bp.tf price, so 1.5 keys;7 hours, unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13686427 1.5 keys, 2 hours old, unsold, no autobump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13650030 1.5 keys, 1 day, unsold, autobump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12876081 Selling lots of keys at 1.5, can't tell if any were sold/unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13531854 1.5 keys, 5 days, autobump, seemingly unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13654684 1.5 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13675604 1.5 keys

Selling at 1.6-2 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13401416 1 key 4 ref, no autobump, 1 week unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13394193 2 keys, no autobump, 1 week unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13259625 2 keys, autobump, unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13478178 1.7 keys, no autobump, unsold, 4 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10993321 From what I can tell he sold it at 1 key + 4.33 ref, after a few weeks of searching

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13492102 1.7 keys, no autobump, unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13125014 2 keys, autobump, 2 weeks, unsold

Other random shit:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13607101 up for offers for 3 days, no autobump, got offers of 1 key pure (refused), and 1 key + Anger (refused)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13292769 Sold, but I couldn't tell for how much -- from the other prices on the trade, I assume it was something like 1.5-1.7 keys, since he/she was selling some stranges at BP.tf price and others at slightly higher (10% or less higher)

crap, forgot buying links; I'll add those in a few, hopefully within the next 10-15 mintues

then again, I suppose selling > buying links, so until I add buying links I still have semi-strong proof

Some quick buying links; would give more, but have to do work now.

BUYING LINKS

Lowballing:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12445300 1 key

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/8092751 1 key

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13686867 .9 keys

1.2-1.5:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9114001 1.2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12987473 1.2 keys, seemingly was able to buy a few

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12035478 1.2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13526707 1.2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13486939 1.1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12482702 1.2 claims to have not bought any yet

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13550954 taking offers on selling price, C/O he'll buy shotty for 1.3 keys

1.6-2 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13650923 2 keys, bought nearly instantly

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13095363

My trade Ive bought 3 so far, 2 at 1 key, 1 at 1 key and a craft hat.

Do I misunderstand or are you showing proof that contradicts your suggestions?

Traders are just people purposely lowballing to find people who are too lazy to bump a trade, there prices mean nothing.

Also a few 1.5s (3 and ones the same trader as another) on your post have sold. Downvote

My shotgun trade @ 1.5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13697383

> Also a few 1.5s (3 and ones the same trader as another) on your post have sold

That's why it's a range of 1.3-1.5, rather than just 1.3

1.5 is still possible, hence why it's still in the range

Sold at 1.5 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13605524 in one day

Look, I'll repeat what I said above

That's why it's a range of 1.3-1.5, rather than just 1.3

1.5 is still possible, hence why it's still in the range

your examples of 1.3 are nearly all sold in less than 24 hours,

2 out of 7 were not sold of your proof in less than 24 hours

that is quicksell prices for non currency items.

The price of these probably deserves a drop but your proof just isn't supporting it enough.

look IF u make THE RANGe 1.3-1.5 THEN instead for the majority selling at 1.5 more guys will sell at 1.4 all cuz of the range THEN the next week i can bet u it will lower AGAIN then it will be 1.2-1.4 THEN since the median will be 1.3 THEN it will lower to 1.1-1.3 THEN 1-1.2 THEN 1 key this is why i hate suggestions with lowering ranges -_-

Lets add some more Shotgun sales to this shall we?

Sold at 1.3 ( 7.55 ref - 7.66)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13661809 (1 key + 3.33 w/name)[ <1 day]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13537014 [<6days]

About 1.4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13657061

Sold at 1.5 (8.66- 8.77)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13669484 [<1 day]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13696291 [<1day]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13659825 [<1day]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13624857[<3days] hasnt been bumped for 2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13691140 [<10 hours] 8 sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13392578 [1 week] (claims to have sold 6)

Unsold at 1.5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13701223 [3 hours]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13664663 [1 day]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13651511 [2 days]

Tried my best to get unbias evidence of sales, an arguement can probably be made either way.

Selling @ <1.5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13647837[2 days ago] (has parts and name tag)

Sold at 1.5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13703471 [<3hours] (2 more still selling)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13598616 [<4 days]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13531854 [<6 days]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13459802 [<1 week]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13401207 [<1 week]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13077096 [3 weeks] (has sold 5 but old trade)

Unsold at 1.5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13666485 [ 1 day]

Sold at >1.5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13403040 [<1week]

for the most part I don't see how this contradicts my range

WHAT LOWERING THE SHOT GUN AGAIN???

Oh also the last change was 6 days ago. It has to be at least a week for currency and 2(?) for non currency items.

PS. im not trying to pick on you personally, just tired of seeing valid prices drop.

DUDE ITS A GREAT WEAPON IT DOES NOT NEED A CHANGE

awwwww, somebody's upset because their bp value is gonna drop by a few cents.

Sold My Shotgun for a Degreaser (2 keys). The Price for this is fine. http://puu.sh/44q8l.png

I Sold mine for a degreaser 5 days ago. Downvote

This doesnt need a price drop. 1.3 is a quick sell, and these still sell for 1.5-2 keys. Bad suggestion.

1.6-2 proof is pretty irrelevant, so you don't need TOO much of those.

Quite a few of your unsolds for 1.5 are a bit young. And at least 2 were sold in the one where you couldn't tell if were sold. But otherwise it looks okay.

eh, just wanted to be sure I was thoroughly showing that it was hard to sell for above 1.5, but thanks, and sorry for some of those newer links.

Bought several for 1.2 ish, upboat :)

Thanks! And, nice haul you bought there! Sell before em quick in case this gets accepted, m8

Yup, already did! :)

I sold about 8 last week and struggled to sell them for 1 key + 2 ref. >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13451487

Why 1 key + 2 ref? Couldn't sell any for 1 key + 3 ref >> http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13325566

Here's proof I had 9 shottys >> http://backpack.tf/id/76561198019205444?time=1375858800

But hey that's just my story.

Just sold 2 Shotguns for 1 key 2 ref each in under an hour https://www.dropbox.com/s/5qf9uqawj5h1uth/98765413.JPG?m

yes, so for 1.3 keys each

>In under an hour

Key words.

He's trying to tell you that your low end sells far too quickly. 1.3 is more of a quicksell.

Definitely a quicksell. All his strange shotguns listed at 1.3 keys get sold in a day.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13492102

sold

Your sales at 1 key and 1.2 keys are irrelevant, they're gone in seconds and you're not trying to prove them for the new range. Same case for all the unsold links at 1.6 - 2 keys.

Now, talking about your new low end. As you wrote and some people told you, all of them are sold in a few time as well, you're going to need way more links for 1.3 keys for a common strange weapon like this. I sold one yesterday for 1 key and 2 ref bumping the trade a couple of times:

http://i.imgur.com/7aGR5fK.png?1

Your buying links for 1 key or 1.2 keys are irrelevant too, unless you find buyers for your new range. Most of them (like me) are just resellers.

It seems like 1.5 keys is a good price for the s. shotgun at the moment. I dont understand why people try to suggest things that don't need a change. In my opinion that is a huge problem on backpack, too many people just trying to get stars on their profiles, so they suggest anything and everything.

no, bad suggestion ,sry for being rude

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mjbv8w2hzv5iuhn/Shotgunz.JPG?m - Just sold 2 more in under an hour. This time for 1 key 2.33 refined each.

Managed to buy a renamed one (Good name) for 1 key and took a few hours (4?) to sell it for 1 key 2 ref, demand is not what it used to be, so I'll upvote

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13716455

I agree Ive had 2 for sale for about a day, couldnt sell at 1.3 keys , but randomly sold at 2 keys. Price doesn't seem to matter right now as much as demand.

Screenshot of it: http://i.imgur.com/ohl7f7Y.png

thats CUZ LOTS OF GUYS SELL OR BUY FOR 2 KEYS

can you contribute some proof? If so that could contribute to this change not only not being accurate, but could prove this needs a raise in price instead.

Don't be surprised...he owns one xDD

well i sold mine for 2 keys the other day soo..... i don't think your proveing your point -_-

I agree, when I sold mine, I couldn't get rid off it unless it was 1.2 keys or lower.

Yes! somebody has finally said "I think the price has dropped" not "I think the price should drop", and on your first suggestion too! you deserve a medal.

anyways, nice proof upvote

You do see how fast 1.3 sells, correct? Please analyze the proof a bit closer. 1.3 is looking like a huge quicksell.

shotgun in http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13685952 was moved to http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13709860 and is still unsold

You can't be too sure. Theres a clear add for the shotgun in the first trade, and the seller has more than 1 in their bp, meaning we don't exactly know how much they started with.

S.Shotgun's are just taking a beating these last few weeks :|

Its already dropped like crazy pretty fast, i don't know why it should drop more :/

> should drop more

It's not that it SHOULD drop more, it's that it HAS dropped more; at least from what I've seen. I could be wrong, hence the comments section is divided on whether or not 1.3 keys is a quicksell price or not. If the admins/mods decide that 1.3 is NOT a quicksell price, then the speculation is that it HAS dropped.

It's not like this is market manipulation, it's market speculation.

i sold mine for 1.5 keys

http://postimg.org/image/qmet7m899/

AGAIN

1.5 is still in the range, because it's still possible to sell at that price

so you're neither refuting nor supporting my range

I don't really understand, why DID this drop so fast? There's not really a drastic decrease in demand or increase in supply. I don't really agree with the new range since the current one is fine, but I'm still stumped why stuff like this or the Mini and Grenade dropped so fast in the past 2 weeks.

from the ones I've been selling it seems like there is just not a very high demand, it takes about a day for anyone to express interest in it for me. I don't think the price needs to drop, I think peoples opinion on how fast it needs to sell is the problem.

That or we just have an over saturated market and it will plummet for awhile

Really think this is good. Needs to go down.