Suggestion: Non-Craftable Can Opener at 0.11 ref

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~18.33 ref

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This suggestion was closed Thu, 22 Aug 13 15:19:16 +0000 by polar.

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(This suggestion has been redone for a more accurate pricing and, it was re-re-done again because im dumb and made it for the worng item)

The last suggestion was accepted because of the lack of trades that exist for that item, but those trades had a lot of discrepacies that im going to point out in this suggestion.

Lets start by this trade; http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13421124

The only offer there is a joke offer of 1 dirty weapon, as i said, it is a joke offer, because the person who made that offer admited it in the suggestion itself( http://backpack.tf/vote/id/520e777a4bd7b8fd48000009) not to mention, that the item is still unsold.

Now, for the second one;

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13560234

At first, that was the first stage of the trade, and the suggestioner, says that the offer for the dirty can opener was 0.22, which, is wrong, that offer of 2 scraps, was made for the scottish snarl, which is valued at 0.11-0.33, thus, making my hypotesis more accurate, not to mention, he offered a price for the set which the snarl belongs to, so that means, he wanted to buy the dirty hat from the demo set, not the heavy set.

Now, we make our way to the second stage of the trade; http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13560050

(that stage dint exist until some minutes ago, and the suggestion supported just the first stage, so that means, that because the first stage wasnt valid like i said before, the last suggestion dint had any real proof, but i will review this second stage anyways)

As you can see, the can opener is still unsold, but someone made an offer for the set, concretely of 0.33, and if we separate the items (stithc= 0.11 and boots=0.05) that leaves the supposed price for the offer at the dirty can opener for 0.15, but, that offer, was "supposedly" rejected because the owner of the item, wanted more metal for it, which leads me to my next point, if the item is still unsold, that means that no one (appart from the person who offered) wants to buy the item for that price even if the price has been rised.

And, finally, even if this trade is 1 month old: http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9647564 it means, that it was inside the time period of 7 months after the other suggestion was accepted, that meaning, that it was still possible to buy it for just 1 scrap.

Have a nice day.

(Also, excuse me for any writing mistakes, my keyboard is half broken)

Asphalt owns a ton of these, and I believe he has sold several. I will ask him to provide screenshots to verify

maybe that's why he's the dirty hat king. huehuehue.

http://imgur.com/bEY1swB,jxWku78

UC set sold for craftable bootie time (that's more then 1 rec each).

And one uc can opener sold for 0.22.

That second stage of the trade, was opened justa fter your suggestion was accepted, you only wanted to raise the price of the item so you could selll the stuff for more, also, you used your own trade as a proof ( http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13560234 ) , and you denied all the offers just to post the trade here and make profit, not to mention, that this suggestion has been made, to prove that the last suggestion had no bases whatsoever and that in the period of time that the other suggestion was opened (the one 8 months ago) it was still possible to sell it in the old range.

What im getting at, its that your suggestion was accepted with fake bases, and all the sells for that range afterwards should not be valid as proof, becasue the people ahve to "obey" the prices of BPtf, and thus, having to buy your stuff for the price in BPtf, but, because the other suggestion was not "valid" that makes your "sales" after the suggestion was accepted "useless" if you know what im getting at.

1. You really think I would bother for 1 scrap profit? Or technically - 1 rec? Keep in mind I wanted accurate pricing. Not profit.

2. I used my own trade because it has a valid offer. (!)

3. If this suggestion only was made to proof that previous one had no bases whatsoever, then I suggest you take it to the forums. This doesn't belong here.

4. People have to obey bp.tf prices? Ok, I'm done trying to get some logic into you. bp.tf is a guide, not a bible.

5. "second stage of trade" The reason why I moved the trade was because I sold the demo set. I wanted to occupy the spaces the demo set took. Which is more efficient to sell your stuff.

1. That price wasnt accurate, one of the trades had just a joke offer, and i have shown with my last link that it was still possible to sell it for 1 scrap.

2.Oh? Then, if i start selling can openers for 1 scrap each, i can use that as proof? Your logic is astonishing!

3.I dint summit a post to the forums, because i have proof of the one beeing sold and 0.11 and with that and your "invalid" suggestion, mine right now, is more accurate that your last suggestion. If i would of wanted to return it to the last price, i would of set a range of 0.05-0.11, woulndt I?

4.I dint say they have to obey them, as you can see i put these "" so you could undesrtand that most people, "guide" themselves based on the price in backpacktf

5.Then, why not move it earlyer, your first stage was done 1 week ago, and then, suddenly, when they accept your suggestion, you make the second stage, i mean, you had 1 whole week to make the second stage of the trade, this seems very fhishy if you ask me.

2. Wow, all I can say is: Your logic is truly astonishing!

1. + 3. I just posted more proof that current price is more accurate. (!)

4. People won't guide themselve paying 1 bud if bp.tf would suddenly have it listed as that.

5. I closed my trade before the suggestion got accepted?

2. What? You see im right and the only thing you can do is copy the thing i said so you can try and sound correct?

1.+3. excuse me? you dint post any links or proof, and if you refer to my links, they arent supporting you, the only thing that "supports" you is your own trade which like i said, was made after the suggestion was accepted and it was ofr the whole set.

4.I dint say that,please, read my comments again, and also, why are you arguing about my "supposed" ideology? this is a suggestion, dont try to divert the current topic.

5.You opened a new one just when yours got accepted instead of doing it just after you closed the first trade?

"all the sells for that range afterwards should not be valid as proof"

it does not matter when the sale was, if it was recent, it is valid proof.

Proof looks nice this time, upvoted. I really don't know how that other suggestion got accepted. He had literally no proof, only his trade and someone with no notes. In addition, the guy was a smug asshole to anyone saying "You have no proof".

You said that in last suggestion?

I have a new proof that invalidates the first stage of the second trade:

http://i.imgur.com/YKpPY13.jpg

This shows that Hippo wasnt offering 2 scraps for the uncraft can opener, he just bought uncraft hats for 2 scraps.

You have provided your own counterproof. Are you planning on closing this now?

Hahahaha, thanks for adding the proof.