seems like last suggestion 2 months ago was a conservative bump that used offers after the first week or something

first suggestion for anything over 15 buds :D

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13459528

Burning Baker Boy(outdated) + Secret Tossle(11.3) + Secret Milkman(10.5) for Sunbeams Veil and Cloudy Attendant(10.7)

^ http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10238255 most considered offers on the baker are at least 12, so I will value the baker at 12, putting the veil at about 23

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13375547 - was unboxed by him very recently, wanted $850 = about 21.3 buds, but I think he was just using the value on this site, no known sale

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13377197 - offers include phos brainiac + sulph brainiac + vivid sns

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13581745 - rejected harvest flamenco(24.7) <- going to round it up to 25 for nice numbers ;D

appears to have sold for burning charmers + scorching pillar + about 8 keys, outdated charmers, but sale is 20+ for sure

http://backpack.tf/id/76561198053975319?time=1376118000

http://backpack.tf/id/76561198053975319?time=1376204400

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10733011 - offered clean burning tyrants(about 19 based on current owner's offers) + anti freeze oma(2.5-3) = 22.5-23, owners not going under 30

any advice will be appreciated, i want to use this to help price another hat :D

trying to avoid including the lower offers into the range, and not entirely sure about that charmers sale