Suggestion: Strange Villain's Veil at 4 keys

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Strange Villain's Veil

Submitted Mon, 02 Sep 13 08:59:52 +0000 by ★ boop goop

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4 keys

~15.95 keys

991 votes up

248 votes down

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Putting a price suggestion on this item, been 5 days since the chemistry sets were released. Markets going nutz with all these Chemistry Sets and Strange Hats...

Most were sold at 4 keys. A few above 4 keys during the first few days of its debut. Needs a price otherwise there would be confusion in both the buyers and seller's part. Suggesting price of 4 keys. Any other proof helpful to this suggestion would be highly appreciated.

--------------------------------------B/O's-------------------------------------

[18 KEYS]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14032130[/url] - (Painted Australium Gold) I Don't know why -_-

[8 KEYS]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14017518[/url]

[7 - 8 KEYS]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14099914[/url] - Painted Australium Gold

[7 KEYS]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14030852[/url] - C/O: Craft # 91 Birdman of Australiacatraz

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14079017[/url] - Level 77

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14079275[/url] - Painted Australium Gold

[6.5 KEYS]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14106280[/url] - Painted Pink as Hell

[6 KEYS]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14107194[/url] - Painted Waterlogged Lab Coat (1 key)

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14016647[/url] - Painted Indubitably Green

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14036837[/url] - A Distinctive Lack of Hue

[5 KEYS]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14103600[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14024072[/url] - B/O of at least 5 keys each

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14102292[/url] - Painted Aged Mustache Grey (2 ref)

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14073488[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14020956[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14072515[/url] - Painted Australium Gold

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14078668[/url] - Painted Pink As Hell

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14025817[/url]

[4 KEYS & ABOVE]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14016106[/url] - Painted A Distinctive Lack of Hue, Seller taking offers above 4 keys

[4 - 5 KEYS]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14103944[/url] - Level 69

[4.6 KEYS]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14079324[/url] - Painted A Distinctive Lack of Hue (2 keys)

[4.5 KEYS]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14100378[/url] - Painted A Distinctive Lack of Hue (2 keys)

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14100286[/url] - Painted A Distinctive Lack of Hue (2 keys)

[4 KEYS]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14107070[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14106414[/url] - Painted The Bitter Taste of Defeat & Lime (1 key)

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14104370[/url] - Painted Aged Mustache Grey (2 ref)

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14068756[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14109116[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14103029[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14108171[/url] - Has a c/o of 2 keys

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14083221[/url] - Painted Radigan Conagher Brown (1 - 1.66 ref)

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14097810[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14053599[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14091287[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14072308[/url]

[3 - 4 KEYS]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14091282[/url] - 1 PENDING buyer

[3 KEYS & 5 REF]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14101620[/url] - Strange Splendid Screen, Sight For Sore Eyes & 2 ref

[3 KEYS]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14094722[/url] - Painted Radigan Conagher Brown (1 - 1.66 ref)

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14103714[/url] - PENDING

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14106371[/url]

[2.75 KEYS]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14081310[/url] - Retracted by buyer

---------------------------------------SOLDS:---------------------------------

[6 KEYS]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14106668[/url]

[4 KEYS]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14080401[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14074778[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14073505[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14068271[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14043946[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13979200[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14077573[/url] - c/o Strange Shotgun & Strange Original (Both renamed) [4 keys]

[3.5 KEYS]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14078941[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14071110[/url]

[3 KEYS]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14033650[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14057108[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14106784[/url]

---------------------------------CLASSIFIEDS:-------------------------------

[url]http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/521e2b3cba25360a7e8b456e[/url]

1 at 3.7 keys (3 keys & 4.66 ref)

3 at 4 keys

2 at 4 keys (Lime Paint) & (Brown Paint) respectively

2 at 4.5 & 4.6 keys (A Distinctive Lack of Hue)

1 at 5 keys (After Eight)

3 at 5 keys

1 at 6 keys (A Distinctive Lack of Hue)

1 at 8 keys (Pink as hell)

1 at 10 keys (Pink as hell)

1 at 10 keys

1 at 20 keys (Level 100)

I dont think it should be this much, someone is selling a villans veil strangifier for 2 keys. He has 4 of them.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14090304

Those are strangifiers, they are ment to be low. Lowest is half the price of the item itself. ex. I bought birdman strangifier for 1.5 keys (lowest I could find) while it was selling at 3 keys.

well you could buy that, and buy a villans for 1 key making it 3 keys

Note that this price being offered is ment to get the middle pice for the misc. The 2 keys for the strangifier is an example of a confused trader that this price is ment to solve. Also, that 2 keys for the strangifier is a rare find. You got lucky.

Agreeing here with SirCookie. Reason for this price suggestion was to clear up everything. Another side note though, item is still quite new.

I agree, I am not having much trouble selling the strangifiers alone for 3.5 keys the last few days. They are dropping a little, but this is one of the better ones.

Of course a strangifier used on a regular veil is a bit wasted since they can be put on unusuals. I'd say the strangefier is worth more alone for this and bonk boy for that reason.

Only 1 person, the rest are selling for higher. Check bp.tf classified adds, tf2outpost.com, etc

If you could provide some counter-proof solds at lower than 4 keys. But I'll have to tell you this as I also stated, item is quite new, people are jumping on this, and strangifiers is a whole different thing than a strange hat.

REVISING Classifieds PROOF

1 at 3 keys

3 at 4 keys

5 at 4 keys (Painted)

1 at 4.5 key

1 at 4.6 keys

5 at 5 keys (Painted)

1 at 8 keys (Painted)

2 at 10 keys [derp...]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13983365

this is my trade where i have like 200+ offers and i've been offered veil's with prices ranging from 3-6 keys.. two of the ones priced at 3 keys were painted. gray and after eight

a range would likely be more accurate

dude you are a quickseller 2 keys for the veil is a quicksell we dont take into account those sells here.

Sellers

0. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14106414 - 3 keys (Painted lime)

1. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14094722 - 3 keys

2. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14103714 - 3 keys

3. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14106371 - 3 keys

1. http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/521e450dba2536f50c8b4567 - 3.7 keys

1. http://bazaar.tf/trade/399539 - 3 keys

Those were just sellers, if you will review my proof above, I listed not only 4 -5 sellers but around 12 sellers. And in ur classifieds add proof, there is only 1 at 3.7 keys --> Quicksell.

Hope this clears up everything though :)

i proof, dude check, sellers for 3 keys each not need more for now!

You got any solds there to further strengthen ur proof?

but you want more evidence for that?

You think sells faster for 4 keys or for 3 keys?

ynoox

first of all

me you and grizzly are the guys with the biggest ammounts of cheap recipies and strangifiers.

we are not to suggest the price of it and i cant see why you want so passionate to lower the price further.we already are selling our stock relatively quick.

or is it cause you want to buy it back cheaper for what you sold?

and thats not thin air talking

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/5200269cba25367e3a000001

i dont belong to the guys that dont know the real value of those items

sold

strangifiers

4 vails for 4-6 keys

5 bonk for 3-5 keys

6 fancy for 5 keys

and lets not talk about the expensive ones.

unfortunate my most sales occured in market a hanfull was from outpost but i dont expect to sell there.

i am,like you using the outpost for quicksells

the profit is on the market.

i am glad mods decide not to price the strangifiers after all.

they would had the same manipulative suggestions as the miscs have.

You've commented on the trades saying "added" and then you sell em for higher. Most people call that quickbuying and then reselling. Link one is invalid, it's painted.

buyers and offers

1. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14048024 - 3 keys

2. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13991483 - offer strange grenade

3. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14108171 - C\O: 2 keys (made by a player in game)

4. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14005350 - Lv 42 Toss-Proof Towel+1 key

5. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14014309 - 2 keys

need more "(/._.)/ Pew Pew™"?

have now more 1 proof i Bought: 2 key + 4.66 refined for Villain's Veil Strangifier and Craftable Villain's Veil - = 2.8 keys ;)

Umm... Thats it??

Just 1 sold??

By the way, the proof that you're throwing at me is useless...

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14048024 - Offers were rejected

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13991483 - Strange grenade launcher wasn't even accepted by the seller...

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14014309 - 2 keys wasn't even accepted by seller...

I don't know what you want to prove here. But this just shows that the proof that you're giving is not valid.

Hope I'm not being harsh here...Just stating the fact that your supposed proof is not valid.

Under 4.5 keys, my trade is up there twice, no need for the top one :3

Alright. Sorry for the repeats

I actually sold it with 6 keys 3 ref for a stormy storm Pugilist.

Just 1 sold at 6.5 keys doesn't mean price should be that high.

If you'll review the previous/past suggestions, prices at much higher prices were rejected and closed.

Putting price at 4 keys flat as most solds are happening at that range.

Your 6.5 keys could be because the price has not yet been settled. Which is the reason for this price suggestion.

Yet, if this was vintage and marketable, it would be worth 0 keys (on the pricelist)

Downvote because pricing here makes no sense.

I would have to disagree with you sir.

If you have any counter-proof of buyers and sellers.

View above classified adds. Tons at 4 keys.

Another thing though, you can't just state your opinions that the price doesn't make sense. If you've got sufficient and strong proof unlike the person above.

You could also make your own price suggestion if you disagree with this.

Another side note: If you've read the rules on price suggesting, you need to view the offers. Which I did above check classifieds.

Solds at the price range that I have suggested further strengthen my price suggestion.

He can voice his opinion all he wants, it just won't make a difference.

The pricing, makes no sense because the mods apply pricing however they want and can't agree on policy. That is not an opinion.

Exact reason why I'm making this price suggestion...

Market is going nutz with people demanding their prices however they want.

Without a proper price everything will be chaos

lol, I don't see how we're at odds when we have the same opinion. Your suggestion will pass (it got my vote) backpack needs to fix this mess though, and they won't do that without someone making noise about it :D

Agree lolz.

Handshake??

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9746288 sold my painted villains veil for 8 keys

Only 1 sold?

Check previous suggestions, price above 4 keys was closed.

Tis why im upvoting, but just thought u would want it :D

Alright. Thanks! :D

4 flat seems too high, many sales at 3

Until you prove that 3 keys is completely a quicksell and gets snatched up within hours, I suggest that you resuggest with a range of 3-4 keys. Until then, I'm staying neutral.

More sellers:

[4 keys]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14142759

http://bazaar.tf/trade/402583

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14141720

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14133950

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14120563

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14118807

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14091282

Classifieds:

ONLY 1 at 3 keys

3 at 4 keys

4 at 4 keys PAINTED

1 at 4.5 keys (Painted)

1 at 4.6 keys (Painted)

3 at 5 keys (Painted)

6 at 5 keys (Painted) - 1 to 3 days old trade

1 at 10 keys (Painted) - 4 day old trade

1 at 10 keys - 5 day old trade

More Solds:

[4 keys & 3 ref]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14113859

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14099620 (Painted)

[4 keys & 1 ref]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14143335

[4 keys]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14115364

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14107070

Please, check the backpacks before saying if the item is sold or not. A closed trade doesn't mean the item was sold.

More Solds:

[4 keys & 3 ref]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14113859 --> Painted pink, unsold. Still in his backpack.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14099620 (Painted) --> Painted black. Still in his backpack, unsold.

[4 keys & 1 ref]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14143335 --> Actually the owner opened a trade 4 hours ago to sell it for 2 keys and 3 ref: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14144302

[4 keys]

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14115364 --> Unsold, still in his backpack.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14107070 --> Unsold, still in his backpack.

i dont think it is should be only 4 key, just to craft it you need S. fastive rocket luncher

Won't say anything here though. Previous price suggestions which were *Even Higher* were rejected.

Put in the buyers and sellers and also solds. Most at 4 keys. 3 ref is quicksell.

All recipes are different

ı am sell strange veil for 5 key !!!!!!

i am not care !!!!!!

Also, plenty sellers at 4 keys don't matter at all if they're unsold. Buyouts are not a valid proof. It seems easy to get one for around 3 keys.

Sellers/sold for lower than 4 keys --> Counterproof:

Classifieds: http://i.imgur.com/Iyt7aub.png?1 --> 3 keys (unsold for 14 hours) and 3.5 keys (unsold for 2 hours).

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14102710 --> 2 keys and 4 ref.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14144302 --> 2.5 keys.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14102502 --> 2 keys and 4 ref.

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9757907 --> 3 keys.

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9757739 --> 3 keys.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14130945 --> 3 keys.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14103714 --> 3 keys.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14096371 --> 3 keys.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14094722 --> 3 keys.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14132329 --> 3.5 keys. --> Painted grey, unsold for 19 hours, bumped.

I think that a range 3-4 keys would be better than 4 keys flat

I´m neutral

Bro, the offer was made 3 days ago, when the item was new. These items always drop in price in a few hours after the update. Ask him now if he's willing to pay 6 keys with all these sellers between 3 - 4 keys. Also, is painted black.

this item is designed by valve not to drop!

think about the recipes what it takes to make the strangifiers

those items will only rise as stranges are going to extinct from overcrafting even a strange fists of steel will skyrocket to 1 key cause of the overcrafting.

those misc can only get more expensive as time goes by. some ppl are just realised that and are truying to restock before the rest of the traders realise that simple truth.

Currently on outpost:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14149552 - 3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14132329 - 3.5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14148340 - 3.5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14124350 - 4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14113615 - 4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14091282 - 4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14149429 - 4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14142786 - 4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14141720 - 4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14124687 - 4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14150100 - 4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14068756 - 4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14144337 - 4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14149792 - 4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14142759 - 4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14130396 - 4

Previous Solds:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14102502 - 2.7

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14102710 - 2.7

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14096371 - 3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14103714 - 3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14122733 - 3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14130945 - 3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14133590 - 3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14149552 - 3

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9757907 - 3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14124176 - 3.5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14100071 - 4

4 keys might already be too high. Some of the 3 keys sales went fast, so can't quite decide if those are quicksells. But I'll leave this up for a bit to see if things become clearer in the next 24 hours

wtf does it track?

Jimmies Rustled.

points made while wearing the hat (kills, assists, caps etc)

@ ConVict, Thanks for those. But I still believe that 3 keys is a quicksell though.

Some more Solds:

[4 KEYS]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14149429[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14148468[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14147963[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14147963[/url] - Sold with Operator's Overalls

[url]http://bazaar.tf/trade/403150[/url]

Come on, dude. I told you about looking the backpacks before stating the item is sold. Closed trade =/= Sold.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14149429 --> Still in his backpack. He opened a new trade again 4 hours ago: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14153887

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14148468 --> Still in his backpack. He opened a new trade selling it for 3 keys since 8 hours ago: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14149552

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14147963 --> Still in his bp, he opened a new trade selling it for 3 keys and 3 ref: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14148340

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14147963 - Sold with Operator's Overalls --> Same trade than before.

http://bazaar.tf/trade/403150 --> Still in his bp.

Oh. Sorry sir. Thanks for the comment. :)

I offered mine on several strange grenade launchers and woke up to 3 adds. Most sellers at 4 keys plus seem to have a hard time. I dunno, staying neutral for now.

Can't change the price range now. Suggestion has been open already for 2 days.

But if this gets accepted I'll resuggest ASAP. Thanks for the suggestions, proof's and counterproofs

@ JCsquared, you got some proof which could help this price suggestion? Would greatly appreciate it :)

If i could i would man, all the trades are close that i offered on.

It's alright thanks though.

I won't close this suggestion though. Lots have already voted on it. I'll resuggest once this gets accepted though. Will be compiling all the other proof's other users gave.