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1 Refined is basically a quicksale... ._.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13950206 - Look at all these adds. O.O


Classified:

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/52005d17ba2536a40e000017


None for below 1.66 in the Classified.


Sold or Offers at 1.33 - 1.66:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13953263 - 1.55 Buyer claims he is too lazy to add two weapons to his offer... ._.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14123452 - Wants 4.55 change for a key to buy the Eyelander? Would be 1.33.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13809450 - Offer of a Moonman Backpack (1.33)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13771319 - Two Offers of 1.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13971652 - Offer of a Captain's Cocktails (1.33)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12836496 - Add at 1.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13825181 - One guy wants to buy for 1.33, but got turned down hard.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14097470 - Offer of 1.33, but the seller wants 1.66.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14134102 - Add for 1.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13861440 - 2 Adds for 1.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14103496 - Offer of a Strange Half-Zatoichi (2-2.33) O.O

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14090200 - Sold his for 1.66?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13928802 - Claims to have sold his for 1.33.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13839529 - Agreed to sell it for a 1.33 Offer.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13933271 - Add at 1.33

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13552563 - Offer of 1.33 (1.22 + 2 Clean Weapons)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13897645 - Buying for 1.33


Rejected Offers of 1.00 - 1.22:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13971127 - Rejected 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13839529 - Rejected 2 1.00 Offers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13552563 - Ignored 2 1.00 Offers

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13766764 - Rejected 1.22


Failed Buyers at 1.00 - 1.22:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14052573 - 3 days and no luck

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13543788 - No sellers at 1.00 for 3 Weeks

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12753950 - Took him a month to get just one for 1.00?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10672883 - No Strange Eyelander for 3 Months? He is paying 1.11 + a Weapon ._.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13833628 - Failed to buy any for a week at 1.00. The guy in the comments pwned him lol.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13932817 - He bought tons of Stranges, but I don't see any Eyelanders bought at 1.00.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11780388 - No adds for 1.00 for a long time.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13547234 - Some how got an add at 1.00, but I don't see a Strange Eyelander in his bp. .-.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14023495 - 4 days and no luck at 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13853391 - 1 Week, no takers at 1.00.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13769044 - Nope.avi


CONCLUSION:


Tons sell at 1.33 - 1.66 without much trouble and most people have a lot of trouble buying Strange Eyelanders for 1.00. 1.33 seems to be more common than 1.00, therefore eliminating the 1.00 - 1.22 range.

    gonna repost the same counter proof that i did on the last suggestion, i have bought a lot at 1 ref on the past 2 weeks


    http://puu.sh/46Oub.png bought for 1 ref and sold for 1.33 in 15 mins

    http://puu.sh/46Ozp.png and http://puu.sh/46OVQ.png same deal here, bought three (one name tagged and with a useless strange oart) for 1 ref each, sold two 15 mins later for 2 craft hats worth 1.33 each

    http://puu.sh/46OCF.png bought another .... http://puu.sh/46OEa.png and sold the next day

    http://puu.sh/46OIr.png bought, sold almost immediately and bought again at the same prices as before

    then finally sold the tagged and parted one for 1.66 : http://puu.sh/46P0p.png (the part was something useless, i think it was cloaked spied killed so it shouldnt have affected the pricee too much)


    more bought at 1 ref since the last suggestion :


    http://puu.sh/478uR.png

    http://puu.sh/4ibIM.png

    http://puu.sh/4ibJJ.png

    http://puu.sh/4ibK5.png

    http://puu.sh/4ibKI.png

    http://puu.sh/4ibLD.png

    http://puu.sh/4ibMx.png


    tl:dr bought nine at 1 ref since the last attempt to raise this, downvote

      Like I said 1.00 is a quicksale price. They sell so fast its not even funny. If you did regular bp.tf suggestions, you would know that quicksell prices should not be in the current range. It seems like you don't want the price to go down because you want to keep making profit off the Strange Eyelanders.

        not really convinced, if it were one or two then maybe, but so many? i refuse to accept there are that many quicksellers

          You may not be convinced, but others here are. if there are more sales at 1.33 - 1.66 then 1 - 1.66, the real price should be 1.33 - 1.66. Is it that hard to understand?

            lets not get condescending here... 1.33 and 1.66 are in the previous range, you are trying to prove 1 ref is not possible and/or is a quicksell price.


            i have provided copious amounts of proof to the contrary, quicksales tend to be outliers - ie one or two trades that go very quickly. I have a lot more than that, you can really expect discount 10+ trades all as quicksales

              All this proof is just one person, you. You haven't proved that others can buy for 1.00.

                ive proved that 10 different people were willing to sell at 1 ref, does it matter it was all to me? it shouldn't seeing as i have no donator rank, and not a bot and am just the same as any other trader

              I'm not convinced.

          bought another 5 mins ago :) http://puu.sh/4jJ79.png

            Yea u bought it in less than a 1 hour trade which basically means a "quicksell" 1 ref prices are quickly sold like this one which u bought : http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14187115

            :)

              traded quickly does not mean quicksell.


              just to clarify, ive bought 10 of these and the pro builder's "proof" has at least 15 other buys at 1 ref (see above for long winded version), i added that one just caus it was relevant.


              That means we have 25-30 sales at 1 ref. Those aren't quicksells, that means the price of 1 ref is accurately reflecting the market


              EDIT i also see you are in his friends list, so you were probably his backup in his pitiful attempt to downvote my comments and act like that meant something. i really don't expect your little game wont fool the mods (at least i hope not :P)

                In my mind sell fast and quickly means quicksell I am sorry if it is not in your head anyways that is not the point . U just bought a strange eyelander to comment here and downvote ? Lol and we are not friends on steam did u check the right profile ? And since dislike my posts won't change the point

                  i'm pretty sure you guys were friend like 10 seconds ago, interesting.....

                  regardless, 1 trade that goes quickly is co-incidence. 5 trades is *probably* quicksell, but 30? if i listed 30 sales of this thing at 2 ref chances are this would rise to 2 ref, and the same works in reverse.


                  Even if it didnt you can just do basic maths. I have 30 trades, he has 6. Which one is higher? take your time, this one is tricky

                    I think his one is better cause I don't think "quicksells" does count in bp.tf suggestions. And also yeah it is interesting cause my last online was 3 days ago

                      bhm-c not reading anything i say, standard for this suggestion...

                ^^ bhm-c Thank you.

            also as a quick aside, my trade is listed in your proof as link 5 under "failed buyers", obviously i have shown above that i have bought several from this trade so could you kindly remove it from your proof, thanks

              Sorry but u are getting him mad and too much fight >.< just downvote and leave.

              OK, time to go through your failed buyers proof (since you have some strange aversion to counterproof)

              link 1) bought one, check his bp

              link 2) check his OP trades, he's bought several and resold them at a higher price (just like i am doing lol) at least 2 in the past week

              link 3) has bought more than one, i count at least 2 in his inventory


              oh dear, this isn't going well for you is it?

                And now to tear apart the rest of it :), moral of the story, check people's backpacks


                link 11 : unbumped for the last 4 days


                link 10 : has bought at least 4, check his bp (you should really do this in future to save yourself the embarassment)


                link 9 : seems legit (surprisingly :P)


                link 8 : you said yourself he had an add, and he sold it for profit, actually if you look at his trades he's done it quite a bit recently


                link 7 : had no comments for a gap of 2 1/2 weeks, im guessing he either changed his prices recently or didnt bump it a lot, either way he sold one recently, i wonder where he got it from? (hint, he bought it for a ref!)


                link 6 : is one of them buy, insta resellers. if you use the backpack history function in the bp,tf viewer youll see he also has bought a lot and resold them for profit


                link 5 : my trade. As we've already seen ive bought a craptonne of this trade, so i gues that guy didnt pwn me so hard after all


                link 4 : i cant be the only one who hates selling to multicoloured walls of text, i mean hes had not offers at all for 2 weeks. still though it seems he hasnt bought any.


                so of all your links, only 2 are fully legit, going to a maximum of 4 if were being really generous. Seems your proof is rather lacking.....

                  My proof is perfectly fine. You obviously don't know how this website works.

                    dude iver just shown how your proof is definitely not fine, just learn to accept defeat already -.-


                    the entirety of your proof can be summed up like this :

                    17 links that are basically irrelevant

                    4 that are are extremely weak forms of proof

                    15 that ive shown above are incorrect

                    and 2 that are legit


                    Horrible, horrible suggestion, id expect a bit better from a green star


                      Actually...

                      lol you can downvote everything i say, but you cant argue against solid counterproof

                        Chill out. You solid counter proof is not really that solid. Let the Mods deal with this.

                          id love to hear how it "isnt solid"

                      Its going fine for me considering your statements make no sense and people disliking your comments.

                        dislikes are just like in the youtube comments section : irrelevant.


                        What is relevant is that youve given us next to no good proof

                          You sir, are the most persistant guy ever. An orange star trying to dis a green star. Ok. Whatevs

                            i was waiting for that excuse to come out...


                            You still havn't shown that im wrong in any meaningful way btw


                            also lets get this clear, im not trying to "dis" you, im sure you are a nice guy, but your suggestion is wrong and im showing everyone why. that is all.

                              My suggestion is not wrong, it has more proof then your counter proof. Like I said. 1.00 Refined is a quicksale.

                                so lets see, we've had around 30 buys at 1 ref in total as i have extensively shown above. Your proof that ALL of these were quicksales are

                                your opinion (and we both know opinions dont matter here)

                                4 failed offers and 2 failed buyers.


                                and ...?


                                6 failures vs 30 odd successes isnt great for you is it?

                                30. Uh huh.You clearly can't count. It's 15. And what exactly is a failed offer? That doesn't even make sense. My opinion is backed up with solid proof. You don't know solid proof. I have more experience in this type of stuff then you do. You just won't stop. Like I said. Let the mods handle it.

                                  *sigh* you can stop acting all high and mighty now and just accept defeat, and actually it is close to 30 if you bother to read everything i've said (which i doubt you have, this whole debacle screams of lazyness)


                                  your opinion isn't backed up with "solid" proof, as i have shown above you have a total of 6 possible good links, and that's me being very generous.


                                  Your reponse to anything said against your proof has been, "im a green star, stfu" or "hurr durr quicksell".


                                  i can accept everyone has a bad day once in a while, but please recognize this, close the suggestion and save yourself some dignity rather than arguing continuously with flawed circular logic!

                                Accuracy > Belt

                              lol who's comments are disliked now?

                          Offline has over 10 of these whatrudoing.

                          Good proof though

                            Uhh.... to answer your question, I'm just updating a price. Even though Offline is my friend, it doesn't have anything to do with him in my opinion :D

                              Read - 'OFFLINE IS PAYING ME TO DO THIS!'

                                O.O Even I wouldn't do such a greedy thing! :C

                                  That's EXACTLY what Offline would make you say. >:C

                                  I would

                            Yay my bp shall rise


                            I mean, I am surprised this item rose.

                              Stop using me as proof please. I am changing the prices every day and most of people just ignore the notes and add me directly without any posting. Trade http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10672883

                                Dude. Stop overreacting.

                                  Stop using false proofs -_-. As I told to everyone who used me as proof: Don't. You don't know how many people added me, you don't know at what price I was buying when they sold to me so please, STOP USING ANY OF MY TRADES AS PROOFS. If you want to know how many I bought, I can share my trade history but stop counting posts on the trades. I got 20 adds a day and only 2 posts on trades...

                                    How was I supposed to know that? ._.

                                      Exactly what he said " you do not know anything".

                                        Says the white belt :3

                                          lol disliking comments and whining about belts even after being spanked by Zimzams; some people never learn XD

                                            White belt doesnt mean you're bad.

                                  Just a note, this seller ( http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13950206 ) has been selling for 1 refined for several days, I purchased one a few days ago ( http://imgur.com/lMrFqRe ).


                                  He also still has stock in backpack and has remained active over the last week. One seller doesn't determine the market but this seller has been actively selling at the low end for at least 4 days, and since he has/had so many readily available and they haven't sold out yet I hardly call it a quicksell and worth removing from the range. Going to remain neutral

                                    Quicksell = It sells really fast. He is bulk seller so...

                                      Did you even read my comment? 4 days isn't really quick for an item less than a key, and if bulk selling is invalid proof a lot of your proof could be knocked right off.

                                        How so? The first day he posted the trade, he got tons of adds really quickly. That counts as a quick sell.

                                        dude, you cant just label anything that disagrees with your suggestion as a quicksell...

                                          I didnt disagree using the quicksell statement with the first guy, please stop whining...

                                      in fact the range 1-1.66 is too much loose for this weapon, I agree

                                        Yeah I agree. It's like having a 5-9 key range for a Bill's Hat.


                                        Besides I've been trying to buy this weapon for a week for 1 ref without much of success. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13823459 And do note that my trades bumps every 1 hour. Only one guy was ready to sell for my price, and as I was offline for a moment, he already sold it to another guy. That's pretty bad ratio considering those 170 bumps which my trade had during that time.

                                        I don't think you get it, we WANT a quick-sale, downvote.

                                          What does hell does that mean? You really need to learn the rules of this site.

                                          Being a rather big fan of the eyelander, I've bought and sold s. eyelanders before, and I gotta say, 1 ref is totally a quicksell, even if it isn't labeled quicksell. Every time I've listed for 1 ref, the thing is gone in an hour at most. Also, pain to find sellers for 1 ref.

                                          Upboat

                                            Finally, somebody who understands. Thank you. :)