Suggestion: Strange Festive Knife at 19 keys

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Strange Festive Knife

Submitted Fri, 06 Sep 13 08:20:43 +0000 by Blaze.xTH3RM4Lx

84.72%

19 keys

~14.7 keys

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Classifieds:

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/5201168aba2536914300001f - 2 at 19 keys

Sellers at 18 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14179676 - sold

Sellers at 19 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14186230 - sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14199644 - unsold (5 hours)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14185896 - unsold (18 hours)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14159816 - unsold (2 days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13996849 - unsold (1 week)

Sellers at 20 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14165644 - unsold (1 day)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14142341 - unsold (2 days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14121188 - unsold (3 days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14092797 - unsold (4 days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14069192 - unsold (5 days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14076693 - unsold (5 days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14051251 - unsold (6 days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13910233 - unsold (1 week)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13873901 - unsold (1 week)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13333055 - unsold (1 month)

Sellers at 18-20 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12986536 - unsold (1 month)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12215869 - unsold (2 months)

NICE PROOF were is sold for 19 keys?

downvote until u add some

Does it really matter? If there are unsolds even at 19 keys then why should the price remain at 20 :L

Please dont be nitpicky for the wrong reasons DDDD:

soo do it 18 (facepalm)

Just because it's unsold at 19 doesnt mean we can arbitrary bump it down to 18 keys...It's also evident that 18 key sellers are common enough to include in the price.

Reason's why we dont bump it down just from unsolds:

o A trade may be open for weeks, but just recently changed their listed price.

o Outpost has donators status which receive regular,automatic bumps, overshadowing non-donators

o Some items may have 20 pages of trades and there will be obvious unsolds regardless.

o Users which are rarely online, giving the illusion that it is unsold.

Taken from here: http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/3203-guide-making-good-suggestions/

Hope i helped!

nobody cares how u are ur proof is bad for 19 keys soo find some proof for sellers/sold buyers/bought

even i can make a guide its no metter u can even be the admin in backpacktf and no one will care if ur proof is bad

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No one can understand you, and the proof is good.

I await for clever to get here and warn every single one of us xD

if you check the proof properly, i have provided sellers at 20 keys all unsold, 19 keys a few unsold and 1 sold and a quicksell at 18.

Since he's lowering the price, not raising it, he mostly needs to show that 20 keys is too high and does not belong in the range, if a range is even necessary. Think about it.

actually it's the average price in the range, not exactly lowering or raising.

Hmmm im guessing you havent read anypart of my reaponse...

For future notice if you decide to be a prick when someone is actually trying to explain/help,i would recommend returning to school and taking some english lessons :)

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18 is a quicksell price.

one sold at 19 keys.

1 week old 19 key seller got an add within first day but retracted (probably bought another one or something).

I don't think it's impossible to buy this for 18 keys... Show us that it is impossible and i'll upvote, staying neutral for now.

it's not impossible but it's a quicksell price, they sell almost instantly.

If it's still possible to get it for 18 keys without any struggle then it's not a quicksell.

18-19 keys would be a better range in my opinion.

Also...

Selling for less than 19 keys:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14231088 (18 keys + 3ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14236957 (18keys)

Not much, but still something.

there are barely any sellers at 18 keys, so it is pretty hard to get unless someone is quickselling.

both of those trades are less than 7 hours old, which wouldn't really count as proof.

Some more proof of solds at 18 keys:

http://www.trade.tf/deals/search/Sell/Strange/Festive%20Knife/all/1

Also, people willing to go lower:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11959807

The trade is old, but if you look at 1 month old offers and below you can see some people are willing to sell the knife for 18 keys.

"Barely any sellers at 18 keys" isn't the case here, people still sell it for 18 keys, and you can't define a quicksell price by only looking at how fast they go, but you also should look at how many people are willing to go lower for sell their item and also at the Buying trades, not only the selling ones.

the ones above 15 hours already sold.

that link is a quickbuying trade, not good proof to use as people try to quicksell their items for pure fast. 1 month ago is invalid anyways as they have probably sold it by now.

so far you've showed me that 3 quicksold within 15 hours-1 day and 2 unsolds which are less than 6 hours old.

Why not suggest 18 than? Assuming proof is right, didn't check.

18 is a quicksell price as you can see i only found 1 seller at 18 keys and he sold it almost instantly.

Did someone not just post MULTIPLE trades of people selling them LOWER then 19 Keys? I'm pretty sure they did... so what do you mean "I only found 1 seller at 18 Keys" If people still sell them for 18, by "creating" a trade saying (Selling S Festive Knife 18 Keys) that must mean there is QUICKBUYERS out there paying less then that... meaning 16-17 would be the quicksell price and 18 is just a price people sell at who don't want to wait a week to sell their item. Selling an item within 20 Hours should not constitute a quicksell, selling it in 2 minutes should. Unusuals are the only items realistically that take more then 2 days to sell. I can sell any item in my backpack for market price within 2-3 days on Outpost. If i price it at the lower end of Backpack.tf, does that mean I'm quickselling them? No. It means I'm not being greedy. 18 Keys is a fair price, NOT a quicksell the range should be 18-19 or remain unchanged.

and all of them but 1 are sold now, and the one that isn't sold is only 15 hours old which isn't long enough to count as proof. i only found one seller at the time if you check the time i posted the above message. quickbuyers buy everything way below the price so that doesn't really count as proof and you can only really use buyers as proof when increasing a price to show that they are willing to pay more but i'm just fixing the range, not lowering or raising. your basically agreeing that 18 is a quicksell price since they can sell it within a day or less. selling an item within a day is considered a quicksell. when did i say selling stuff at the low end of backpack.tf is a quicksell? i'm saying that it's a quicksell price because there are barely any sellers at 18 keys and all of them get sold within a day. so, 18 is a quicksell price and the majority of sales are at 19 keys. range shouldn't stay the same because 20 keys is basically impossible.

As I stated... just because they SELL doesn't make it a quicksell. Posting something to "Sell" should sell.... obviously. Your logic is basically dictating that if something sells fast, it is a quicksell, and your definition of fast is within 2 days. So... there is no arguing with you. Good luck further defining everything that sells as a Quicksell. Why don't you go make a Nametag suggestion raising the price is 3 Refined because everything under that sells within 2 days and obviously is just a Quicksell price.

yes i saw what you wrote the first time, and like i said, if it sells within a day, it is considered a quicksell. people posted "sell" for 20 keys but they never sold theirs. that's exactly what a quicksell is, if it sells fast, it's a "quick"sell. "fast" and "quick" you see how they connect. all the links at 18 keys i showed sold within a day or less. what more do you want? there were only 5 sellers below 19 keys and already 4 of them have sold. what more do you need to prove that it's a quicksell price? and since when do name tags sell for 3 ref.. and besides the name tag rised to 2.33 because 2 ref was a quicksell price.

The price is right, but come on! This range is nice! :(

Le průůůůf: http://i.imgur.com/cDrYs8C.jpg (sold in 24hrs via bp.tf)

thanks, but the range is in-accurate.

Renamed could constitute a slightly higher price... I've seen shit renamed my little pony terms go for double their value. "I think to myself, if they want something named RainbowPony, why not just buy a name tag and name it yourself instead of buying a PRE-named item for double what it's worth"

names don't increase price.

They does in certain cases. But never than the price of the nametag ofc.

not really i don't think, maybe sometimes if it's a really nice name.

Of course, only if it's a nice name. This isn't the case imo.

maybe 18-19 would be better