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This hat is a bit low
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14177312 sold for duped cloudy jefe(21) + max + 1 bud http://imgur.com/dL88QVH = about 24
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14103210 sold with beams honco(8) + 1 for an anti freeze modest(30.2) = 21.2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13420526 had an offer of a duped cloudy kabuto(20) + flaming lantern mirror(2.2) + o. planets sam(1.1) + 24 keys(1.1) =24.4
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13937496 had an offer of 20 pure, lantern crones if he adds 5 = 21
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12877628 had offer of 16 pure + PE kabuto(6) + about 1.5 = 23.5, claims to have sold for 16 + $240, not sure if that amount of cash was added as shown by last suggestion
heres where things get interesting
http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,1870547854 the executioner went from Help Im wet to Nolander
http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,1877811885 this PE noh(had offers like harvest menco + max(27+) or a cloudy cannonball(30+) went from Ajat to help Im Wet and had sold for a lantern crones +2 http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12675095
http://www.tf2outpost.com/item/440,1877806021 The crones went from Nolander to ajat
it was a 3 way trade and the noh is definitely undervalued on this site. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13439784 he was willing to add 4 to the exe for the crones, basically putting the noh at exe + 6, and using the best offer of the cannonball, will put the exe at 24
some other sales(outliers)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14023605 quicksold for about 14
Looks to have sold for 11 buds + 63 keys = ~14 buds pure
Proof: http://backpack.tf/id/76561198051862333?time=1377932400 -> http://backpack.tf/id/76561198051862333?time=1378018800
Change in BP value between the 31st and the 1st confirms this, change is $573.30 = ~14 buds - outlier
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12715151
Sold for Lantern Ballcap(~4.8) + Stormy Bonk(~3.5) + GE Ten Gallon(~3.3) + Clean Max + 4 pure = ~17.8 buds
Proof: http://backpack.tf/id/76561198033434489?time=1374130800 -> http://backpack.tf/id/76561198033434489?time=1374217200
an outlier now since theres sales/offers much higher
lowest sale is 21.2, highest offer is 24.4
I really doubt you can get 21 pure out of a duped jefe. Also why is a duped moon buto 20 buds, where did you get the number?
i sold a duped cloudy jefe a couple days ago for a dead presidents samureye(other has burning hallmark offer) + cloud 9 samureye + stuff ive turned into 6.5 buds and I added 2.5
cloud 9 samureye should be somewhere above hearts atm, and after overpay that should be at least 21 imo.
Why would someone offer a burning hallmark on the worst new effect sam. There is no theme I could think of. That will be a huge outlier sale, the sam won't be >10 buds for sure.
well then that sale just falls in the middle of the range somewhere
More like the low end but yeah you have more "proof" of your high end luckily. ;)
Upvote, got an offer 20 buds pure when i made the trade not sure if its still valid.
20 is under this range.
Also duped Moon Jefe's are not 21, they are more like 17-18 from everything I have seen in the past, I have had to look into them for previous suggestions, which would put that first sale around 20 - 21, not 24.
And here: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12877628
I don't see proof of the 16 bud + PE Kabuto offer. I would be very hesitant to take his word, given that this guy is known to lie about offers and sales. In his first attempted suggestion on this he said he added 6 pure on his hats when he bought the executioner, then changed his statement to 8 pure, but he really added 4 pure as I found out(in my suggestion). You also didn't mention that one ended up selling for 16 pure + some amount of cash we don't know, 22 total if he was telling the truth, but I would doubt that.
Other than that everything is true. Only difference seems to be we valued the PE Noh differently, and that 24.4 offer jojo made, he eventually ended up buying for 21.2
Hey, I had a duped Jefe and I got offers easy in the 20 range.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14074548
Take your time~
There are no offers even reaching 20 on that trade. Unless you got them elsewhere, and have proof if it. By the way, electrostatic executioner is pretty overvalued on this site atm, using it would be very weak proof on its own, which it is at the moment. Besides, if you sold it + 3 buds for your miami executioner, the jefe would be 18 according to this range after overpay.
The problem is you have failed to realize that I have gotten a Miami Nights Antler Offer. I also have gotten a offer of a Miami Nights War Pig 1:1. This seems like proof? The War Pig was offered by Sane.http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/55416
Not to mention many stuff are underpriced on bp.tf :/
Neither the Miami Nights Antlers or Miami Nights War Pig have prices here yet. I did not fail to see the Antler offer, I just know it is not priced and thus is not any kind of proof unless the value is proven. As for the war pig I already mentioned that it is not priced yet, but also I don't see proof of that offer, or even mention of it in your C/O's on the jefe. What you sold it for is the biggest proof regardless, as sales are what ultimately happens.
Neither the Miami Nights antlers+Miami Nights Warpig have prices on backpack.tf. That is true, but they already have a price on tf2op. So what if its not priced, given they already have offers in the 20 range, I doubt they will go below that on backpack.tf
http://imgur.com/ThrEMHu
Cheers
Just for future reference and your own knowledge of suggesting, it does matter if things are priced on this website. Prices are never the same between here and outpost, and if something isn't priced already, you can't use it as proof unless you show proof of its price first.
Regardless, you're missing the bigger picture. Woifi already said a duped Moon Jefe is not 21, and I was explaining why I agree on that point.