Suggestion: Anti-Freeze Brigade Helm at 173.1–247.63 keys

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~275 keys

anti-freeze

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This suggestion was closed Tue, 10 Sep 13 20:23:58 +0000 by the submitter.

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Yes, last suggestion was accepted today but there s not really a reason for high end at 11.4 buds

Some of this hat suggestions history

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5206b11dba25366c52000004

first suggestion made by alex_jj

sales

http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/6827/dkue.png

6.8 + 0.4 in sweets = 7.2 ( Burning Milkman + 4 keys + Black Painted Essential Accessories) from this player: http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/35968 - http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/6827/dkue.png

Sold it for: Burning slug (10.3 buds) and also add some sweets to this player - http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/296338 . Images proof:

http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4462/ljr1.png

http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/5084/rd6w.png

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/522526daba25364b0e8b456a

second suggestion made by PPMja998 #BestFinalFantasy

he mentioned some offeres that were too high and also included hype-priced new effects

Done. all other trades are outliers, the 6.7 bud one as well as the higher ones. Feel free to resuggest 9-11.4. (Woifis comment at the end of that suggestion)

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/522cc3baba25366b638b4568

resuggested by FinalFantasy today

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11212970 sold for a burning fedora + nuts barnstormer, which had low ends at the time of (7.8 + 3.6) = 11.4 buds. 3+ months old sale - invalid

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13822250 scorching brigade (8.5) with spectrum ~ 9 buds

therefore he decided 7.2 buds on low end is an outlier

Woifi accepted today

Since the sale proving high end was 3+ months ago and is invalid because of not being recent and also hype, as one voter noticed, Caesar decided to make another price suggestion to take price back

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/522dc9da4f96f427268b4568

actually he messed some numbers and he decided I should resuggest since I helped him a bit

TL:DR suggestion accepted today had invalid proof for high end and therefore old price is accurate.

Happy voting, waiting for explanation Woifi

Still disagree with this suggestion. When the original suggested price was accepted, the 11.4 sale was less than 2 months old, as were every other price/average I listed on my original suggestion, and were completely disregarded. A price was accepted that shouldn't have been, and proof to discredit this suggestion was very easy to obtain (but never used, so I used it now).

The only sale less than 9 buds isn't an outlier, but every other sale over 10 is an outlier for what reason exactly? Not sure how you can justify your reasoning on a "hype" argument alone, but gl with that. Sounds on a lot of opinions and justifications based on a market opinion, whereas I at least gave proof. I'd rather just see every suggestion on this hat thrown out then see this passed/closed honestly, let the market determine what it should be worth, rather then this site (even though the market has already been altered by the original suggestion). zzz tl;dr not voting one way or another, gl, this is a tricky hat to me based on the evidence.

I made my explanation there in case you missed it: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/522526daba25364b0e8b456a

This hat was sold 2 times for ~20 buds so I thought 11 buds is more reasonable then the 7 bud sale.

I saw the suggestion as a counter suggestion to the one before when it was ~2 months back. Also your prices are not the prices during the trade.

firstly I dont understand what are you saying about I m not using prices during the trade. As far as I can tell there were no pure sales and unusual prices were recalculated so there s nothing wrong with prices and not recalculating would be wrong. anyway this hat sold for ~20 during the hype and a long time ago. also 11 bud sale was 3+ months ago. but I have recent checked offers (on trade 3 months old) and they are barely getting to 7 buds so I dont think anything above 10 is much possible.

btw although prices on slug and milkman are pretty old, according to offers they are still recent

Burning Slug was 9.6 when they traded and Milkman 6.3 (see Alex' suggestion). But the Milkman was a mass duped one and he was selling for 5 buds afterwards: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13085329

I was also thinking of calling the 11.4 trade invalid and let him only suggest 9-9.6 but I decided to include the 11 bud sale as I said above. I could accept 9-9.6, for any other decision I need at least the word of another admin.

well actually if milkman in sale was clean price is fine since there is offer of scorching slug ~ 8 with overpay and price on burning slug is fine as well since there is offer of 10 pure and terror jefe+ bud (11.5) but new. if anything I can resuggest 9-10.2 since there was no suggestion for slug and milkman and both changes are just by usd-buds ratio change recalculation so please dont close this, I ll wait for another mod and then I will either leave this one open or will close this and resuggest but as I said according to offers price is closer to low end not to high and

Milkman was duped.

Yeah I realized that offers are not that good, but thats maybe the reason why it hasn't traded recently. Seems like robo effects are really like halloween effects, they hardly get good offers, but when they do, they are higher than everything else and a trade happens.

Yes not sure if 9-9.6 or 9-10.2. I will let all this another mod decide, I'm off for now.

the fact milkman was duped makes it an outlier I m gonna resuggest 9-10,2 to use recalculated prices and hope you can accept

9-10 sounds reasonable. 11 is old, 7 is an outlier in the context of other offers. Like Woifi, I would support 9-10