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Changing the price of this hat again. More information below.
I was the previous owner of this hat, cleanest on the market with 5 people in its history.
The previous person dropped the price by nearly 25 buds. He cited a lack of proof on my end regarding the offers I was receiving.
Some of these prices are calculated wrongly.
He also applied his own biasness against halloween effects.
"Well, I hate when people buy things for moon/secret/halloween in general hats, so as punishment each one gets its own subsection explaining what its value is."
Now I'm fairly sure that the role of backpack.tf is to ensure there are accurate prices to match the market, not to impose your own estimated prices on them.
You can't price hats of this calibre without actually being in the market for them. Now that I no longer have it, I'm going to prove him wrong.
My offers:
"-Roboactive Executioner(~30) + Miami Executioner(~17.8) + N&B Barnstormer(~2.1) + 18 keys = ~50.8 buds"
Won't argue with that, it was a pretty low offer.
"-Disco brotherhood + antifreeze brigade + sulph berliners + $100 + 16 keys + sweets(probably around ~50 or a bit above)"
This is where I differ. Beams Brotherhood is priced at 53, and Disco>Beams in many hats. We'll compromise and say that it's 53.
The Brigade itself is 10.2 buds. (9-11.4)
The Berliners is probably 4.5 - 5. (Phosph is 4, generally Sulph hats are priced higher.)
Taking current value of buds at 39 USD and at ~20.9 keys, that's 100/39 + 16/20.9 = ~3.33 buds.
Taking lower end prices:
53 + 9 + 4 + 3.33 = 59.33
Taking average prices:
53 + 10.2 + 4.8 + 3.33 = 61.33
The previous person probably priced the Brotherhood at ~50 - 10.2 - 4 - 3.33 = ~32.5
I really don't see how he saw the price as that, considering Miami is priced at 36.2, and Disco far outweighs Miami.
This is not including the projected price of the Brotherhood, which I believe is much higher.
Far cry from "~50 or a bit above".
"claims to have a tenative 70 pure offer, but I did not see proof of it anywhere"
This is the person who offered. http://steamcommunity.com/id/SpiringBasher/
He had the buds in his (private) backpack, but he had a pretty serious real life issue and could only pay in 1 month.
He's also pretty sensitive about it, so don't go harrass him.
As for what I sold the Secret Crone's for:
NOTE: THIS WAS OFFERED 4-5 HOURS AFTER THE PRICE WAS CHANGED.
P.E. TC + Terror-watt TC + Scorching Hermes + Presidents YWN + Searing Hoodie + Orb. Fire Attendant.
I sold the Terror-watt TC + 1 bud for a Lantern Crone's.
I sold that Lantern Crone's for a Time Warp Gibus + Lantern Handle.
The P.E. TC is ~32.4 buds. (31.3-33.5)
Taking the Terror-watt TC at the average price of the Lantern Crone's, (26-30) - 1 = (25-29) The next sale proves that the price of the Crone's is at ~27.5. (TW Gibus is at 25.4, Lantern Handle is ~2)
Scorching Hermes is ~6.1 buds. (5.3-6.8)
Presidents YWN is ~5.6 buds. (5.3-5.8)
Searing Hoodie is ~2 buds. (1.9-2.2, 8 month old price, sellers aren't going lower than that.)
Orb. Fire Attendant is ~2 buds. (1.9-2.1, 5 month old price, seller got offered 2 pure last week and he instantly accepted.)
Taking lower end prices:
31.3 + 25 + 5.3 + 5.3 + 1.9 + 1.9 = 70.7
Taking average prices:
32.4 + 26.5 + 6.8 + 6.8 + 2 + 2 = 76.5
This is very comfortably in the average range of 67.7-84.7 buds, which is 76.2.
Note: I had to focus on selling it fast before people try to abuse backpack.tf's price and bring down the hat.
Based on ♫ Woifi ♫ Horizon ♫ 's suggesiton, Im putting the price range as shown above due to unusual overpay.
Uhm so why did you close the tc suggestion?
Btw it would be 23.5-25 since max heads are 2.2 and not 2 buds flat. :S
Acc closed it but it got a 14 100% upvote so i assume the community is fine with th price. Ill reput it up for voting
Upvote from me.
Seems good to me. Up it goes!
could you give the link to where you got these offers? and a screenshot of what you sold it for?
"Well, I hate when people buy things for moon/secret/halloween in general hats, so as punishment each one gets its own subsection explaining what its value is."
That was a sarcastic statement, I thought I made that obvious enough. The reason I did a detailed analysis of the current price of each hat was because almost all were outdated(as almost all high tier moon/halloween effects generally are) and some were duped. My analysis of the prices of those halloween effects was not biased in any way, nor was it based on "estimations", I used recent sales or data from current outpost listings if there were any for all outdated prices. The duped secret TC sale was also around that sale for all the halloween hats.
Additionally I would appreciate it if you didn't throw around random accusations about me "abusing" backpack.tf and using "biased opinion" in my suggestions, as that is false slander against me which I do not appreciate and most certainly do not deserve. In my opinion, my suggestion was fine for the data that I had in front of me at the time. As you said, you made the sale right after my suggestion, how could I have possibly included that in my proof if it hadn't happened yet?
Having said all that, your sale is a valid ~68 after overpay, and it can add a range to this hat, so I'll upvote. Just refrain from throwing wild accusations around when you don't agree with a single price suggestion.
YOu could have requested validation of the 70 bud offer but you assumed it was not valid
Also you forgot to post your outpost listing for it. Here it is for anyone that needs it for reference: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13602521