Suggestion: Blizzardy Storm Vintage Tyrolean at 36.69–50.45 keys

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~56 keys

blizz

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[Proof below]

5 months old price

Overpay applied

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13592437

-sold for ghosts Pyro's Beanie (~1.6)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9477413

-sold(only the hat) for stormy Charmer's Chapeau (~1.8)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14165792

-sold for 44 keys (~2.1)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13653815

-sold @2.2 Pure

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14213347

-offering 2.2 through paypal

-Current Owners-

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14144383

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14114222

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13676388

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11886353

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14315509

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14224083

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14309203

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13562520

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13652752

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14213347 - This guy went around offerin 2 buds + 5 keys

Im not sure the low end is justified. Its an obvious outlier. And most offers revolve around 2 buds

just because it was so close to a quicksell doesn't always mean that its a quicksell

Even if you don't classify it as quicksell, its still an outdated price that you are using to determine the low end.

Plus, he had better offers. The Bubbling Tyro + 23 keys is worth about 2.4-2.5 buds after overpay and the Bubbling Private Eye + 1 bud + all those sweets its easily 2+ buds with overpay.

2 sales at 2.2.

Pyro beanie looks like an outlier. People usually pay less in pure and more in unusuals. And here you have sales at 2.2 pure and 1.6 unusual trade. Oh well.

1 sale and 1 offer*

the beanie sale is not too far from the chapeau's sale

The pyro beanie was an outlier (I was the guy who traded the beanie to him)

ALSO

I sold it for a Sunbeams Nano (2.4 with overpay)

did he mentioned that he want to quicksell it ?

if no, then this is a regular sale because it takes 1 week

plus a screenshot of your trade(history) would help

and you said it yourself here : http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13653815

"Bp.tf puts it at 2.4-2.6 blah blah blah"

And your bp

before: http://backpack.tf/id/76561198041401847?time=1376463600

after: http://backpack.tf/id/76561198041401847?time=1376550000

its sold for the beams nano...but if there is no screenshot i'll assume that some sweets were added to that trade (according to the bp)

I don't think you understand what an outlier is... Outliers don't have to be quicksells, some people just want the hat. Also backpack histories through backpack.tf are terrible uses for proof. I do a lot of trading so that doesn't even matter(I get a lot of items in a single day sometimes)

I have no reason to lie, but the Beanie was an outlier. Why? he obviously just wanted the hat as he put the price of it much lower than he was selling the tyrolean.

No sweets were added to me getting the nano.

his b/o was 2.5 pure/3 in unusuals, that's not low comparing with the range back then (2.4-2.6) and had a 1 week of thinking

you did admit that its overpriced in your own trade by saying "Bp.tf puts it at 2.4-2.6 blah blah blah"

This really doesn't look accurate considering most have offers at or just under 2 buds. Plus you're basing the low end not only off something that is being valued at 2 keys more than the quicksell you bought, but the price for it is over 4 months old. http://backpack.tf/stats/51/5/8

Oh, and this one has an offer of 2.5 buds and 2.3 buds. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11886353

Gotta agree with this... even the lowballers are offering more than the suggested new range.

after owning this hat i can tell that this unusual can't get sold at more than 2.2 even in unusuals...i did offered on a lot of hats around 2.3 and they refused due to the difficulty of selling it.

and please watch the offering time

You could argue about the 2.5 buds offer, but the 50 keys/2.3 bud offer was made 3 weeks ago. So it's not an outdated offer.

And this still doesn't change the fact the low end is based off an outdated price on the Beanie and is too close to the quicksell you and a few other people were trying to buy anyway to not consider it outlier.

why do we take overpay ?

no need to answer i guess you know it

and as i said above its not too far away from the chapeau's sale and the owner sold it in a week (enough time to receive offers)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14114222

it is my post, my tyrolean has been offered Sulphurous Rubber's Glove (3.1-3.6 buds) and 2 buds + 5 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11886353

it has been offered 50 pure keys, 2 buds +11 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13676388

Green Black hole dead cone(3.4 buds)

All of these offers on different posts are updated, so i think this price suggestion is not accurate

dear current owner,

i do listen to your criticism but if you looked up you'll see that i have replied on everyone's comment(and they asked the same questions) this is one

two, almost all the owners got these offers and they rejected them[and im one of them] (due to the robo hats/effects)

and three, this suggestion is based on all the recent sales so if there was a higher sale i'd include it

Despite negative feelings about robo-unusuals, it doesn't change the fact that the offer was made. After a bit of research, it seems fairly clear that this suggestion is quite low altogether. However, if the price moderators think otherwise, I will happily go with the lower price. Side note: I am negotiating for this hat right now, so I'll throw in my two cents when I buy.

Just a reminder, bp.tf reflects the market trends

so if all the owners of this hat had the same offer and they all rejected it then its not valid

not saying that all the robo hats/effects are rejected...its just about this hat

Seeing an owner put the price of their own item down is always a good sign for me, and paired with your proof, it makes a nice and easy upvote!

You don't have much proof for the low end. Thatt chapeau link is 5 months old too...

any suggestion for a new range ?

i'm still not sure about the beanie sale because the owner had 1 week to think about it

and as a previous owner of this hat i can say that its almost impossible to sell for more than 2.2 my highest unusual offer was an orb. fire tyrant's which was 2.1 after overpay