Suggestion: Festive Scattergun at 2.3–2.5 keys

Price Suggestion

~2.98 keys

1033 votes up

450 votes down

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This suggestion was accepted Wed, 18 Sep 13 20:33:13 +0000 by polar.

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Lol at my currency strats. Anyway, pardon my french but what the FUCK was that last suggestion??? The mod who accepted it has clearly been sniffing the bmoc hype bath salts. Christmas is coming was his most compelling argument, and he gave NO SALES. NONE. NOT EVEN ONE. WHAT. WHY. PLS.

PROOF-

SELLING:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14392446 1:2 TS paints (2.2 keys) for a day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14390130 Selling for 2 keys 2.33 ref for a day, with added name + desc (doesn't add anything to the price but w/e)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14291580 2 dota keys, dude doesn't bump his trade

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12364509 Been selling at market price for a month, was (2.4 keys), still has at least 2.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14177944 Selling for a week at bp.tf prices (2.4), still unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12748889 Selling for a month, bp.tf prices rounded down (2.3 keys), still has it

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9964920 5 month old trade, don't know how many scatters he's sold at 2 keys 2 ref, out of stock atm

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13699192 BEEN TRYING TO SELL FOR 2.5 FOR 4 WEEKS WITH NO ADDS ON AUTOBUMP. WAT

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14340260 3 days at 2.5, nothing

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14399473 1 day at 2.5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14372038 b/o of 2.5 keys for 2 days

http://i.imgur.com/4fFkwWC.png many recent on classifieds for 2.5, 2 days old, EVEN 1 AT A WEEK OLD, etc.

SALES:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14382460 1.5 keys obvious qs

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14378201 2 keys 1 reclaimed

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14378938 2 keys 1 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14422689 2 keys and 1.33 ref

http://bazaar.tf/trade/425520 2.25 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14379845 2 keys 2 ref

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9783137 2 keys 2 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14374916 2 keys 2 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14385817 2 keys 2 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14417934 1:1 festive rocket launcher, 2.3 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14391998 2 keys and 2.66 ref

CONCLUSION:

ALL OF THESE LOW END SALES ARE WITHIN THE LAST DAY WITH THE EXCEPTION OF 1 2 KEY 2 REF SALE FROM 2 DAYS AGO. IT'S NOT LIKE THIS INFORMATION WAS HARD TO FIND. PUT THE RANGE BACK AND CHANGE IT WHEN YOU PROVE THIS RANGE WRONG. MODOPINIONPACK.TF OP. (also caps lock for emphasis)

Eh, your 2 keys 2 ref sold pretty fast.

upvote form me

Oh god Haven't Really looked at price suggestions but when i read "The mod who accepted it has clearly been sniffing the bmoc hype bath salts. Christmas is coming was his most compelling argument, and he gave NO SALES. NONE. NOT EVEN ONE. WHAT. WHY. PLS.

" I just had to go and look. sure enough with a score of 51% he got accepted by some mod who was snorting coke and Having friends stab him with syringes filled with heroin. Like WHAT?

Yeah idk. I'm not sure if these people aren't going to read the previous suggestion or.. what. It's pretty fucking atrocious. They're saying "let the new price stabilize, let it sit before you change it" well it was never a valid price, accepted on some bullshit invalid suggestion with 0 proof

Not bad proof.

Upvote.

lol, upvote

waw, 1 "lol, upvote" and evryone hates on the comment... really people?... k

People like drama lol. If the mods did their jobs and followed their own "rules" and their own "how to make a good suggestion" forum posts, wouldn't have had to make this suggestion in the first place.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14469495 started at 2.5, lowered to 2.3, now lowered to 2. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14456548 still selling for 2.4, now a day old. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14475006 selling 2.4. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14462637 sold 2.3, resold 2.5. http://i.imgur.com/arqQVSO.png 2.3 on the classifieds 9 hours, still in his bp, dude's even online now.

They're selling more for 2.5 then before, but I believe that's a byproduct of this bad current price suggestion more than a reflection on the market. The high end of typical suggestions are catered towards b/os. For example, if you decide you want a festive scatter, you'll go look up the price, and either look for the cheapest one on the market (people are lazy, 3 cheap ones on market right now for example) or just look to pay a reasonable buyout. When the average is the same as basically everyone's buyout... what does that say about the average? (or you could be like this guy, and pay 3 keys. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14463678 because logic, the guy had already accepted a 2.5 offer right above lol)

All of your 2 keys-2 keys 2 ref ones sold ridiculously fast. That is proof for it to not go down to that price. 2 keys 1 rec sold instantly. 2 keys 1 ref sold in 2 dozen views. Downvote for now

10 sales at 2.3 in 1 day, and you think it should be removed from the range. They sold ridiculously fast because they were still the low end of bp.tf's price. 2 keys 1 rec and 2 keys 1 ref are even below the previous range, but when there are 4 sales around there in 1 day? And then 5 more at the low end in the same day? When I can only find maybe 1 or 2 2.5 sales in the same time range? Dunno.

They still sold extremely fast, shouldn't be in the range anymore.

I'm seeing nothing at above 2.5. How do you discount 10 sales below 2.5, while 0 sales and barely any moving at even 2.5 make it the only price without a range? Not following the logic here.

2.3 seems like a quick sell.

2.3 goes too quickly, 2.5 isn't going anywhere. There's still 2.4 there.

2.3 goes too quickly, 2.5 sales trickle, both still happen, very few sell for more or less. If someone can actually prove 2.5 is a solid price then I'm all for it. Hasn't been done, the last suggestion certainly didn't do it, your opinions certainly aren't doing it. Price change needs to be reverted until the market actually reflects 2.5.

Check the classifieds for example... All of the 2.5s that were there still are after 7 hours... no one is even trying to highball at 2.6. A flat price still suggests a range, where are the 2.6-2.7 highballs? All I'm seeing is 2.5 unsolds and then jumps to 3 key unsolds on outpost. If they aren't selling at 2.5 why is the price now 2.5? Convict even expressed the sentiment on that crappy festive mackerel suggestion that all festives sell fast. There is a large market. So why are they barely selling at 2.5, despite bp.tf telling people that's what they should now pay? And how would 10 people selling for 2.3 hours before that price was erased from the range indicate nothing about the actual price? http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14434626 Another sale at 2.3, took 3 hours.

Furthermore, where were you people when this other suggestion passed??? Just look at it. It's an embarrassment. And 50% of you actually upvoted that. How can you possibly make an argument for keeping this price, that was never based on any evidence, with an argument solely based on a market opinion. At least go make another suggestion with 2.5 sales and make an ACTUAL argument with PROOF stating why these listed sales are invalid. Believe me if I could have I would have, but I'm just not seeing it.

you need to calm down. why are you so agitated. with le caps.

Update:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14372038 sold at 2.5 in less than 2 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14399473 sold at 2.5 in less than 2 days

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14340260 sold at 2.5 in 3 days

Though i do agree that the other suggestion was top notch, that doesn't mean that a second one to correct it doesn't have to be quality either. I also looked through your under 2.5 keys links and found that not a single link had a scatter that lasted longer than 50 views. Every single one sold in less than 2 bumps. I think 2.3 is a quicksell being it goes so fast....

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14476466 bought at 2.5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14476726 sold 2.5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14467751 sold 2.5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14467548 sold 2.5, probably trade server

This suggestion actively influenced the market, made 2.5 possible to sell in a reasonable amount of time. This shit just wasn't happening even a day ago, much less when it passed, and none were selling for days. While some 2 keys, 2.3, 2.4 remain unsold for whatever reason, and the bp.tf classifieds sit there and rot. lol. I'm assuming the previous suggestion has made it quite a bit faster to sell on a trade server for 2.5... assuming that's a factor.

Those links I had were directly from your suggestion, not outside research, rendering those unsolds to sold.

So 3 days and ~2 days, being bumped, at the actual bp.tf price, on a niche but coveted item, doesn't indicate a highball, but 2.3s that actually sell fast or at least in a reasonable amount of time are quicksells. Again what does that indicate about the market. This is the reason why most suggestions don't take over 3 days more than it shows anything relevant about the price at this point.

Yeah downvote 2.3 is a quicksell...

I would bring it back, but too much people will upvote it... Maybe because they want to price being like that.

Its more stable at 2.5 really is no need to do this. Even is 2.3 is quicksell, and yes it is a quick sale.

Give the new price at least a week before trying to change it back, people might actually buy in more than 2 days.

The "new price" is invalid. What kind of logic is this. People were barely paying it when it was the high end of the range, and they're still barely paying it now. Go make a 2.5 suggestion with proof and you'll have all my upvotes. Until then, not at all concerned about this baseless negative feedback. Sheep logic op. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14447599 another one sold at 2.3, dude was advertising multiple times for 2.5, didn't sell, lowered to 2.3. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14452775 Selling 2 keys 2.66 ref. In this time I only see one probable 2.5 sale.

A bunch of the sellings, which includes a bunch of 2.5's, are now sold. Meaning there are a good amount of sales at 2.5.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14456548 . Seeing a good amount of 2.3s as well, still, despite it not even being in the range anymore. But of course, those are all quicksales right. I'm leaving 2.5 in the range, so of course I believe that price is possible. But it's clearly not the only price they're going for.

The joys of having a price system based on public opinion. Obviously... if you have the item and are trying to sell it your not going to want to lower the price, and if you want to buy one you are most likely going to vote up a decrease in price no matter the proof. Sad not many people have unbiased opinions... I also heard christmas is coming, so let's all get aboard the hype train to santa's village.

I will be an outcast and upvote, I don't like festives nor do I plan to buy any for investment purposes thus making my opinion impartial. I feel regular people selling for lower then the current backpack.tf price shows that it's HARD to sell for the current price. The only reason people bought them so quickly under the current price is, much like every year they "assume" they are going to increase in price because christmas is around the corner.

Mhmm well said upchucked too.

2.3 sells like hotcakes, 2.5 is quite stable too.

icsold mine for 2.5 pure (2 keys,3 ref)

screenshot?

sorry i dont have but you can trust me

you can go take a screenshot by clicking here and searching for when you sold yours: http://steamcommunity.com/id/xTH3RM4Lx/inventoryhistory/ (will redirect to your inventory history since you can't access mine.)

Look I just saw that suggestion I I thought help

We can't take your word for it. take a simple screenshot, post it here, and THAT will help.

Wow, I say upvote and put a lol in there and my comment gets disliked by 9 people? :/

Anyways, the guy has a point. The other price barley went over 50%, so I don't see why it was accepted.

Are you all idiots? The reason 2.3 sells relatively fast is because it's under the bp.tf price, but it shouldn't be .-. the fact that that shit suggestion got accepted has just sort of screwed over its price because everyone looks at bp.tf and no-one does actual research of their own.

2.3-2.5 is the correct price and the last suggestion had next to no valid reason. Therefore, 2.3-2.5 is still the price, don't you even dare downvote this shit. ._. stupid economy

Hey don't call this economy stupid just because it doesn't have logic -_-

That's sort of the reason why it's stupid ._. that's like saying "hey don't say he's smelly just because he smells."

Besides, I'm not calling the people stupid, just the economy itself. Blasted guhsidusaanjksgvsvd

I know you're not calling people stupid but the economy... And that was supposed to be a joke ;_;

Have you ever heard about wallstreet? Does it make sense? NO!

Guess it's just economy in general :C so sad

Because bp.tf in many players minds IS THE SET market price. when it isn't, and many of the prices are fucked up. If people see "oh, it went to 2.5! I should buy for 2.3!" and therefore, the market price of it goes up BECAUSE OF the suggestion. People don't think. They act.

Upvote. But, they will rise cuz .. X-mas is coming. And all you guys will probably know what happens then.

Every year just the same

all rules for the same old game \ o /

Currently available:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14481024 - 2.2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14456548 - 2.3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13486300 - 2.3 - seems afk

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14083568 - 2.3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14390130 - 2.4

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14471527 - 2.5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14448425 - 2.5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14436222 - 2.5