Suggestion: Description Tag at 2 ref

wtf is that supposed to mean Pro Builder? he has enough proof for a lot of peoples liking, I don't get this selling=/=sold thing, to my understanding it means the value of the selling is equal to the dividend of the equal value of the sold value

EDIT: not meant as an insult

Let me explain. If they are selling it for 2 ref, but noone is buying, it cant be a new price, since noone is accepting that price. And since most of the t2 community takes these prices without a question, a price that noone were willing to pay in the first place is all suddenly the main price, causing confusion and maybe crashing desctags forever. These suggestion is not done when you're bored, this is serious business.

You spelled srs bsns wrong

Why does someone need 16 description tags?

Because he buys them at the before price, then attempts to raise it and make profit.

No need to raise prices to make profit here!

I'm happy enough with what I have in my backpack!

it was only a suggestion, but I'm sure she sells as well as proof here with higher sales for price more up!

I've bought 20 Name and Desciption tags a while ago just to rename 20 items.

~~price manipulation~~

Yeah it does need a bump, but selling =/= sold. Try to get more solds please, downvote for now.

1. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13833658 - 1 keys for Both (sold)

2. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12632176 - 1 key for Both (sold)

3. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14179032 - 3.00 refined for 1 (sold)

4. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11553964 - 2.00 refined (Sold)

5. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/1650769 - 2.00 refined Each (Sold)

6. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14502546 - offer 2.00 refined (Sold)

7. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14533158 - 1 key for Both (Sold)

8. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13658939 - 1 key for Both (Sold)

have more proof need?

Buyer. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14624504

All good dude - just disprove 1.66 now , and you're golden.

Selling =/= Sold.

Selling =/= Sold, and you seem to stocked up whit 16 of them to resell after the ˝price increases˝...Downvoted

Read comments from buyers!

1. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14252549

2. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14179032

3. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13658939

i'm have more need?

Keep the comments about the suggestion.

sure thanks for warning!

description Tag for Name Tag = http://bazaar.tf/trade/426419 = Buyer offer 2.00 refined

Offer 2,00 refined for Discription Tag http://bazaar.tf/trade/379612

Seller http://bazaar.tf/trade/403473 2.00 refined Each / 2 Added in commentings

classifieds Backpack.tf

2.00 refined or more: http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/52008585ba25364e33000027

I thought classifieds counted as unsolds?

All of them are <24 hours except for the 2 day old one but it's actually sold. If you look at their backpacks, some of them are sold.

2 Weeks: http://bazaar.tf/trade/358937 - Buyer = 2.00 refined

1 month: http://bazaar.tf/trade/323249 - Offer = 2.00 refined

1 day ago: http://bazaar.tf/trade/443928 - Seller 2.22 refined (Buy Now / in Bazaar.tf)

7 hours ago: http://bazaar.tf/trade/445473 - Seller 2.33 refined (Buy Now / in Bazaar.tf)

5 days ago Offer 2 Last Comment http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14385333 = 2.44 refined

The buy nows do not count, until they have been sold that is. Although I still have some reservations against using buy nows as proof to increase a price.

you read commenting? of course not!

Please, care to explain how you comment on buy-now trades?

you have here lots proof, (Buy Now is recent examples Sellers)

I've gotten them less then the low end at times. And the fact you OWN 16 makes you a lot less believable... Kinda manipulating... Downpeen.

It doesn't matter how many they own. Only the quality and quantity of proof.

I've just bought a desc tag recently for 1.55 ref. That's below range... The proof being 90% people selling them at a price and then a few buying them for a price within the range not happening? People are buying at in the 1.66-1.77 ballpark and people are selling in the 2 ref ballpark and both sides are getting successful at times. This range has no need to go up, especially when the one suggesting it just happens to own 16 of them. I guess hes just gonna keep buying them at 2 ref then after it gets accepted... That makes sense.

I don't think this suggestion shows nearly enough relevant proof to pass (see my comment below) HOWEVER, it has noooooooothing to do with how many he owns. If he had a backpack full of them and no other items, I would vote it up IF he had good enough proof.

I see your points, but he is unsuccessfully selling them at his own set prices within his own trade. And yeah quantity does not matter, but when you have some that you are trying to sell and it's not working at the price you want, I feel a up in price (that is poorly backed) is kind of manipulating...

Your proof seems to be mostly aimed at proving that they sell for 2+.

However, 2 is already in the current range, so proving 2+ doesn't help you.

You need to concentrate on showing unsuccessful buyers at 1.66-1.88, because those are the ranges that your suggestion is trying to remove.

I will repeat it was never my intention for this suggestion, increase value to my backpack!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRB8Jor8tPs

I buy these all the time. 1.66 is a quicksell. But you need to show that part or this will not pass.

you need solds to make a price upping. sorry but downvote.

as everyone else is saying, the proof has to be sold to count as good proof.

I have seen a lot of people buying description* tags for 2 ref, I have bought 1 for 2 ref as well.

This is a description tag, not a name tag.

Derp lol thanks though

Im staying neutral. Not very good proof in the actually suggestion, but fairly okay proof in comments. But I don't see any proof for fast trades for 1.66 or failed buyers.

someone sold me one for 1 ref its like 1-1.33 to some people and 1.66 is possible

1. http://bazaar.tf/trade/403473 = Buyers

2. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14651419 = Seller

3. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12084301 = Seller / Buyers

1. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14479093 = 2.00 refined Each / solds = 10x

2. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14653640 = Buyer offer for both 4.33 refined 7 hours ago

3. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14480241 = Buyer for Desc. Tag 2.00 refined 2 days ago

4. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14369521 = Seller sale Both for 1 keys / 2 buyers 1 Week ago

5. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14565818 = Seller sale for 2.00 refined / offer Stout Shako + 1 ref 4 days ago

6. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14625648 = Seller 2 name tag and 1 Desc Tag for 1 keys 2,00 refined each 1 day ago / 1 buyer 1 day ago

7. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14582829 = Beller 2.00 refined Each 4 days ago / Buyer 3 days ago

What happens with name tag? You can found it normally. Ok, if you want

*Name or Desc tags

ill stay neutral

1. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14406531 = Buyer 1 Week ago for 2.44 refined

2. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13040588 = Buyer 3 Weeks ago for 2.33 refined

3. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14639339 = Seller 1 day ago for 2.00 refined Each

4. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14663598 = Seller 17 min ago for 2.00 refined

5. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14179032 = Buyer 1 Week ago for 3.00 refined :O

6. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14651419 = Seller 17 hours ago for 2.11 refined

7. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13833658 - 1 keys for Both (sold)

8. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12632176 - 1 key for Both (sold)

9. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14179032 - 3.00 refined for 1 (sold)

10. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11553964 - 2.00 refined (Sold)

11. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/1650769 - 2.00 refined Each (Sold)

12. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14502546 - offer 2.00 refined (Sold)

13. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14533158 - 1 key for Both (Sold)

14. http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13658939 - 1 key for Both (Sold)

Buy Now http://bazaar.tf/trade/445473 - Sold 1 Day ago

2 ref to sell the description tag

You own 16... Also, they still haven't rised back up from the store sales, and they probably won't, with the halloween sales so soon.

Sellers: http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/52008585ba25364e33000027

Seller / Buyer http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14533158 Both for 1 key 5 days ago

Seller http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14624099 - both for 1 key sold 3 , 2 days ago

Seller http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14644869 - 2.33 for Desc Tag 1 day ago

Seller http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14675133 - 2.00 refined for Desc Tag 2 hours ago

Seller http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13040588 - 2.33 refined for Desc Tag / Buyer 3 Week ago

Seller http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14675806 - 2.00 refined for Desc Tag 1 hours ago

Seller http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14660811 - 2.00 refined for Desc Tag 17 hours ago / Buyer 10 hours ago

Sellers =/= sold

you downvote always puts in all my suggestions because I did not accept trade with you! is a very rude and lower!

here have many proofs buyers in comments!

evidence of my having here ago 5 min!

Proof http://i.imgur.com/NnurxZj.jpg

My Test

Proof http://i.imgur.com/NnurxZj.jpg

2.66 refined Each

Look, we can see that you have tons of proof that people are selling for 2+, but you need to prove that 1.66 is a quicksell

yet most of these are unsold

ok more proof

buyer 3 hours ago http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14634820 - 3.00 refined Each

are you just dislking everything you don't agree with

again for 2.66 refined

proof http://i.imgur.com/xuc8k59.jpg?1

I don't want to be the dick that points this out but 16

not have 16.

Look at this: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14673352 - 1.66, sold within the first minute, never bumped. Anyways...

Polishing his proof.

2 ref solds

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14566369

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13861057 - sold multiple, bot.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11553964 - reseller

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14561302

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12084301 - reseller

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9899138 - reseller

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14565818 - offered 1 ref + craft hat

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14580406

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14575129

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14479093 - out of stock, claims to had sold 10

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14515687 - sold 3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14460815

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14531846

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14479818

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13211701 - reseller, out of stock, claims to have sold 67

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13439928 - reseller, seems to have trouble buying for 1.66 (out of stock)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13833658 - sold for name + descrip for a key

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11553964 - reseller

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/1650769 - reseller, out of stock

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14502546 - offered 2 ref multiple times

http://bazaar.tf/trade/403473 - reseller

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14651419

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12084301 - reseller

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14479093 - out of stock, claims to have sold 10

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14663598

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14675133

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14675806

Note that all of these resellers sold at least one. I did not include sales >2 ref sales mainly due because Im lazy but it's very possible to sell more than 2 ref. I honestly think this suggestion is fine and no problem passing.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14646191 - buying for 1.66, no adds

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4182361 - buying for 1.66, no recent adds

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13669092 - buying for 1.66, no recent adds

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14665269 - buying for 1.77, still new

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14571265 - buying for 1.88, one add in 6 days

There are even more unsuccessful buyers at 1.66. I think it should be removed from the range.