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TF2 Outpost Sellers and their offers:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14629065 (rejected offer: 7 keys pure)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14499374 (people offered 5 keys / 1 bills hat, and easily rejected)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14655845 (Selling it with orange paint, 2 ref more, for 8 keys, and one trader added him in less that 1 day, I will update if he sold it for that price or not)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14615637 (6 keys + 2 ref offer, no response, so I will update this one with the trader decision)
TF2 Outpost Buyers (ignoring masive quickbuying traders)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14472593 (he offer 6 keys, don't know if it was successful)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14635509 (he has a C/O of 9 keys for a orange one)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14684750 (offering a TS painted bills hat)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14676355 (like 6-7 keys value for robro)
And this is only a few post in TF2 outpost, and with this I want show that the robro is not 5 keys anymore as minimun, it should be at least 6, and about the sellers they have offers of 6-7 keys in general so for that I prefer keep the 7 keys as maximun.
pd: sorry for my grammar, anyways don't use it as excuse for ignore this price-check
you need to show sold ..
sold ones are hidden, tell me how to find them.
use trade.tf
http://www.trade.tf/fair/search/Sell/Strange/RoBro%203000/None/1 the only one that is fair and he is not selling for under 6 keys. With this price check I want show that this item is not 5 keys anymore
and look at this: http://www.trade.tf/listings/search/Sell/Strange/RoBro%203000/None/1
People sold them easily for 7 keys or more, and I want 7 keys as maximun only.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14684750 success in aprox. 8 hours only with a 6+ keys offer (TS bills)
yes but does the 6 key low range exist? right now as we speak is this a price you can buy it? if not why it should be in the range? thats my question
i didn't ask what you want to be in the range but what it is.
can you proove you can buy it for 6 keys?
cause your links support a 7-9 range
yes, I know, and I dont want 7-9, i want 6-7 at the moment, and see in the future if it can go higher. My intention of this is remove the 5 keys as minimun price check, that doesn't exist anymore in this item.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14669581 sold for 8 keys
probably sold in steam market though i see no keys in his bp.
or even faking it? idk
Upvote, seems legit. Also chem sets stopped dropping.
Its also going for 20-21~ on steam market
Chem sets did not stop dropping, that is a lie that people attempting to manipulate the market are spreading.
What about backpack.tf http://backpack.tf/stats/20000/6/0
Um, are you sure about this ?
Meet the stats has the same stats with bp.tf too.
http://stats.tf/item/20000/Chemistry_Set
Hmmm, that is interesting. There was no change in the item schema to suggest they had stopped dropping, but the numbers you linked say otherwise. I'll have to look more into this.
Yeah, thats confusing.
I think that it can be a bug from "meet the starts", because in that list appears "chemistry set" in general, but there are a lot of different classes and with a different name each class of set. If it really stopped droping, it should appear in the oficial TF2 wiki, and that is not the case, so maybe is what I said, one bug of "meet the stats"
Its probably bug. I just checked and they increased 267 more in 3~ hour. Its 17300 now. But bp.tf still shows like its dropped on 07 september.
bp.tf is only adding the new chemistry sets in the stats while the crafted deleted chemistry are calculated.
those are limited bonus drops and some pp lget 1 or 2 when others none.
add me ;p for trade only pur
I don't know why people vote negative my comments and my price check, it's f***ing obvious that this item is not 5 keys anymore (and for example there are people selling for 8-9 keys, but I'm not suggesting that), and is not my intention make profit/upgrade my backpack, so please, vote negative only for a good reason, no for reject this price check and buy one strange robro cheaper...
If people sell it for 8-9 keys then that is nothing, if they DO manage to actually sell it for that price then that counts as proof towards your suggestion.
Just a heads up.
Probably because Chem Sets appear to have stopped dropping.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3179809
> not a single user reported getting one as a drop since the thread was posted on 9/6 over 20 days ago.
http://backpack.tf/stats/20000/6/0
http://stats.tf/item/20000/Chemistry_Set
And if you don't believe it just look at the number of Strange Misc items for sale. Almost all have incredibly low numbers ( 0 to 10 ) for sale (except for the terrible ones) :
Arch - 0 - http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/521e66104f96f4da2b8b4567
Robro - 2 - http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/521d8b934f96f420638b4567
fdu - 3 - http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/521ecde6ba253682588b456c
teddy - 3 - http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/521f093eba25360a3f8b457e
Sore Eyes - 3 - http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/521e7822ba2536c81f8b4569
Bonk Boy - 3 - http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/521eb014ba2536cd498b4569
Father - 4 - http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/521d989bba25369d0c8b456c
Scarf - 6 - http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/521e47af4f96f4c5678b4568
Veil - 8 - http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/521e450dba2536f50c8b4567
Towel - 17 - http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/521e2807ba2536b7728b456b
Bird - 33 - http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/521d7438ba2536e5508b456b
The reason for which the strange miscs are now scarce on the market is because Extraordinary abudance of faith or ❤Skapaneas❤ has publicly admitted to be hoarding every single of them (incluiding chem sets and strangifiers) just for the sole reason of manipulating (both through the market and in-game trading)
http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/4165-price-manipulation-anti-measures/?hl=anti-manipulation
What a hypocrite.
I don't really see how http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198002055092 buying and selling S. Misc items on the community market is "hoarding every single [one] of them". They only have about 75 in the their backpack now which is like .4% if you consider only existing Chem Sets (~17,300) .
xago (the OP of my spuf link) has about the same amount in their backpack (77 chem sets/strangifiers) and bought/kept that based solely on the speculation that they stopped dropping. Both him and Steven Bogda from spuf haven't got a Chem Set drop since 9/2 and Bogda idles multiple accounts every day.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MklYO6hRwsg
http://www.youtube.com/user/crateaday/videos
I'm not going to try to argue that this ❤Skapaneas❤ character is or isn't trying to manipulate prices but I will stand by my speculation that the desirable Strange Misc items are rising because they have stopped dropping. Many/most of the cheap chem sets have been used up so the supply up for trade is plummeting but there is still decently strong demand there for the good misc items.
That's suposed to be their "goal" according to them. If they have succeeded I'm not completely sure.
I doubt VALVe would make them stop dropping out of the sudden without any announcment. (although they did the same with unusual nohs and coffins)
About the number of chem sets, think about it - how many of them are actually usable? Lots of the chem sets use expensive items like many hats or premium botkillers or strange festives. Not arguing anything here, just pointing this out.
manipulating and collecting are 2 different things i collect them cause i knew those will be rare drops and they where designed to rise.
i have warned you and everyone else on your past suggestion that if you price the strange miscs lower than my selling strangifier prices i was going to use that profit advantage to buy them back,the fact that the strange miscs are now marketable is something that I wasn't expect but it is a very nice thing cause i dont have to suffer lowballs i can wait to sell my stocks on their peak.
Chem sets: even if they drop or not the 90% requires a 5-40 keys input that is why the actuall miscs are so rare and so expensive,the cheap ones will be crafted first then the demand and offer will rise the rest of them.
the only think I said it was finally valve designed an item that is doomed to a never ending rise in prise.. and before you know it to craft a strange festive scatter gun to a strange robro it will be profitable.especially if valve is after to expand their Grey science thing and release festive strangifiers at Christmas.
chemistry sets are made for 3 main reasons
1 To consume ref and limit strange (weapons) into high value items that will consume or force into circulation more keys,
limiting the strange wepons
2 cap the ref to keys price and rarify unique hats to force sells in steam store cosmetics
3 more Uncrate (but how):After the 1* and 2* in some point you wont be able to trade a cheap strange to craft what you want force ppl to consume keys for to unbox or consume MvM tickets to get the incredients they are after.
side effects: more unusual hats in the market also cheaper too/
less unique hats / a steady key to ref currency/
And of course even more profit for valve.
So please stop blaming me for collecting a digital item
and as much for the prices I am selling concerned I am licensed by valve to sell in the price of my likes depending the demand and offer for it
i am to judge if the time to sell the items I own is now or in the future for more or less pofit that will be depend by the demand in the market and not your suggestions I trade before the tf2 spreadsheet and before bp.tf and i will continue to do so and after any new 3rd party price site comes along in the way.
I don't shark I don't scam and for sure i don't suggest ppl to sell me that low you did.
Why is this getting downvoted. I don't even own a Strange Robro.
If anyone who downvoted this would like to show proof of a Chem Set dropping after 9/2/13 I would love to see it.
Whether it's a bug or intentional it seems almost certain that Chem Sets are not dropping and have not been dropping since the 9/2 patch that fixed some Chem Set crafting bugs.
Also regardless of this these are clearly selling above 5 Keys.
They're selling for 10+ keys on the community market:
http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/440/Strange%20RoBro%203000
http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/440/RoBro%203000%20Strangifier
In the whole Community Market + Backpack.tf + Outpost there are only 10 Strange Robro for sale...:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/156324812
http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/521d8b934f96f420638b4567
http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/440/Strange%20RoBro%203000
There are currently more listings of Stormy Storm Hustlers Hallmarks than Strange Robros: http://www.tf2outpost.com/search/156325342
yeah I have one, bought it for 6-7 keys, that's about right
And people talk about price maniupulation...
I'm really sure that these persons use Alt accounts for voting, in this case, for vote negative the legit comments providing good proves and maybe this price check too...