Suggestion: Earbuds at 19 keys

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Earbuds

Submitted Thu, 03 Oct 13 06:53:04 +0000 by ★ The•Siscus

78.99%

19–20 keys

19 keys

~8.23 keys

985 votes up

262 votes down

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This suggestion was accepted Fri, 04 Oct 13 16:03:21 +0000 by Puddilicious.

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Let's suggest a flat price for the Earbuds.

i did my research on outpost, checking every trade and excluding the ones with particular levels or unusual requests, and that's what i got:

UNSOLD AT 20 KEYS

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14142319 (4 Weeks, we don't know if he has lowered the price during this time)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14205022 (3 Weeks, still has 2 in the Backpack)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14450797 (2 Weeks, he has 18 new keys in the Backpack, but he bought a game with buds)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14442966 (2 Weeks, sold one ages ago, he has still 2 in his Backpack unsold)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14474153 (2 Weeks, sold a few ages ago, still has other buds unsold in his Backpack)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14600826 (1 Week, sold several a few days ago, but has no success in the last days, has several in the BP)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14548062 (1 Week, still has 2 in the Backpack, we don't know when he sold the other 2)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14502785 (1 Week, bought several for 19 Keys but can't resell for 20)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14577907 (1 Week, recent C/O of 19 Keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14635381 (1 Week, well bumped, no relevant offers)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14649938 (6 Days, duped)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14643808 (6 Days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14653250 (6 Days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14690064 (4 Days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14688978 (4 Days, was selling for 20, lowered to 19 and 5 ref, still has it, BP private, reported)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14697961 (4 Days, has a lot of unsolds after the price update of 4 days ago)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14694017 (4 Days, C/O = 18 keys, but he don't wanto go under 20 keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14689302 (4 Days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14699009 (4 Days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14726407 (3 Days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14708756 (3 Days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14710984 (3 Days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14727974 (3 Days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14719506 (3 Days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14745684 (2 Days, several buds, all unsold)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14739420 (2 Days, i don't know, it seems that Buds are duped)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14732999 (2 Days, several Buds, looking for Unusual, but he can sell each Bud for 20 Keys, no success)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14745357 (2 Days, still has 2 in BP)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14729500 (2 Days)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14748413 (1 Day, no offer, no bookmark, he has several)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14756688 (1 Day, he changed his mind to 19, but retracted, his bud is duped)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14757259 (1 Day, but 19 keys each if someone buys both buds he has)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14760235 (1 Day)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14764502 (1 Day)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14773227 (1 Day)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14765839 (1 Day)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14773158 (1 Day)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14763758 (1 Day)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14749032 (1 Day)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14751766 (1 Day)

SELLING AT 19 KEYS

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14697909

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14636915 (i can't load his Backpack, he has at least 3 buds)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14715608

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14753110

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14765245

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14708355 (maybe an offer of 19?)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14770356

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14733869 (selling for 19 keys + 1 ref -_-, had a stock of 4, sold one, 2 new)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14733458 (sold several buds)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14773729

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14755514

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14697909

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14769206 (selling a lot of Buds for 19 Keys, it's a new trade, check it for fresh sold proofs)

SOLD AT 19 KEYS

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14757223 (according to Buds' history, sold at least 2)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14754232 (same, sold 1)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14670521 (sold at least 1, another one in the BP)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14752974 (sold several for 19 keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14771714 (sold at least one, according to buds' history, anyway he is asking for 19 keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14754732 (sold several)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14761574 (he was selling for 19 keys, did the trade but he has cancelled the price, don't know why)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14482096 (sold at least a few, has multiple adds, no more buds in his BP, was asking for 19)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14657834 (sold several Buds, still selling for 19 Keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14681431 (sold several Buds, still selling for 19 Keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14439648 (sold at least few Buds, still selling for 19 Keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14754785 (sold at least 2 Buds, according to Buds' History)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14691486 (it's a Bot, sold several Buds)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14207897 (sold at least few Buds, still selling for 19 Keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14769730

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14754818

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14720859

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14750974

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14769571

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14659064

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14713013

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14767337

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14598992

SELLING AT 18.5 KEYS

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14750993 (had several, sold pretty fast 3 of the 4 buds he had)

CLASSIFIED

http://puu.sh/4GmoT (first half of the first page)

http://puu.sh/4GmuE.png (second half of the first page)

Conclusions:

This is what i got checking every trade that was on Outpost 5 hours ago (20 pages). New trades are coming up every hour, a lot of people ask for 19 Keys, that isn't a quick sell. To be honest, I can say very few trades happen at 20 keys (2 or 3 against a ton at 19), but i don't know the reason, seen that there are a lot of people that are selling their buds for 19 keys. Plus, Tf2 Finance confirms this downward trend (http://tf2finance.com/) and i can assume that also on trade servers the music doesn't change. Feel free to provide more proofs if you want, refrain from unnecessary or offensive comments, do not put your usual theories on the economy. I will not answer to most of the comments due the short free time i have, but i will thank those who support me in this suggestion. I add further evidence as long as i find them, modifying this comment.

Thank you all for your attention.

Anything at 19.5 keys?

Yes, 2 trades with no success. I preferred not to include them because I have not considered them relevant.

Seems fine. Upvoted

Thank you for your support

let me help you out a little:

sold 2 @ 19: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14768160

selling another one @ 19: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14775236

Thank you for your support

Selling at 18 keys : http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14709410

Selling at 18 keys & 5 ref : http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14576635

Upvote.

Thank you for your support

serously the last price suggestoin was 3 bloody days ago. price is going for a shit because peopel dont know how to actualy let the price settle for at least a week at its new evaluation, downvote cause way to bloody soon

I'm disappointed in you.

The price should update asap and there are plenty of proofs, you provide no counterproof.

Forgot to mention, you have an earbud in your backpack.

(z-snaps and walks away)

Owns: 1.

trying to keep your value~?

Extra Proof,

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14742388 - Offered me 19 keys for his bud.

Nice job btw upvote.

When I was a wee lad, buds were 27 keys... D:

very strong and plentiful proof, upvote

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14769206 18keys+3ref each

upvote good proof also saw sellers at 18 keys even at 17 keys

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/51fffc244bd7b8440d000007

i Agree, after trying to sell my buds for 20 keys on unusual servers, iv also noticed various other people selling for 19 keys or even 18.5 keys making my selling for 20 near impossible

Thank you for your support.

Nice job, upvoted

Thank you for your support.

yep.upvote as well.no one selling at 20 keys.Even the classified listings in backpack.tf are full of 19 keys or even 18 keys

Thank you for your support

seems legit also almost 2.5 pages selling for 19 on classifieds

i dont know what u think. but there were 2 or 3 vote for 19 keys failed earlier. well u cant craft it. and cant buy from store, and its a STYLE. mabe it will be good for 19-20 keys ( 19 key quicksell. and 20 keys regular sell)

Its currency not style. For style there plenty of better looking and more visible misc in every class.

it's not about "thinking", it's about market, and the market tell us it's going down. Check links before trying to keep your backpack high man.

Meh don't think itl'll help much but http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14768750 -selling at 18 keys ea, sold one then gave up

Thank you for your support

i could not agree more with this ^

100% agree with this

thanks but as you can see all i got was a warning... did you also notice that if you go in the backpack of everyone pricing the earbuds downs, oddly enough they dont have any in their backpack! how weird is that huh? this price voting has killed everything. and now some no life admin is gonna warn me again and mute me... oh well i guess i wont be able to comment anymore... boohoo...

>Destroying the economy.

The real world value of these aren't dropping, Keys are still rising. Less keys = buds in value, thus decreasing the price of Buds. Until Keys stabilize and demand with low supply of Buds goes up, they will continue to drop. Lowest I've seen em was 15 Keys over a year ago, they recover, drops and raises occur, just like in the real world. Now hush.

lol, not really how things work because for example here items are priced in different methods (metal, keys, bills, buds, etc...) so no things do not work out this well, but since your comment seems so intellegent and smart i mean the majority who have no clue what you are talking about had to thumbs you up...

More proofs:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14736725 (selling 18 Keys + 5 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14775236 (selling 19 Keys, 12 hours ago)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14774919 (selling 19 Keys, 12 hours ago)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14769492 (selling 19 Keys, 18 hours ago)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14648748 (selling 19 Keys, bot)

you do this becuz your bp is full of keys when its 19keys you will buy some buds than you do another suggestion so buds go up....

lol

You say that because you have an earbud in your backpack.

i like how i just read through the comments, and every single person who is disputing it has both a terrible reason and buds in their backpack

Proof looks legit, up vote

Looks fine for me, upvote

yah. sorry if my comment hurts anyone's feelings. but bills and buds price fluctuation will make STEAM MARKET more preferable. and then................ um mabe i wont be here to write to u. my vision and thinking will be understood by the traders who has basic idea about economics.

i wonder why i got (-) vote. plz the man who gave it will explain?

because you went full retard.

Supplemental: According to trade.tf the last time someone has sold a set of buds for 20 keys was 27th September. http://www.trade.tf/price/143/6

Off-topic: To anyone saying "Oh doom the economy is doomed," I want to point out again that this is a sign that the tf2 economy is the strongest it has ever been. More traders can afford earbuds, which are a luxury commodity; and now there is more competition in the market.

Thank you for your support

Plus, whenever buds go down, higher-tier unusuals become a bit more affordable, with every key drop, they lose several buds worth of keys from their name.

unusuals are rising as buds drop reason is that unusual hats are priced in usd and not to promos.

as buds drop the only way to buy unusual will be steam funds or pure keys

Yeah, we are all so rich

Oh look at me, aren't I the richest guy around here? I can brag about my backpack!

I call Bullcrap on that fact, I sold a bud for 20 keys on September 29th

And that is why I said "According to trade.tf" You can click the link and see the graph for yourself. The bots don't catch everything; the automated spreadsheet is generally only valid for overall trends.

The graph only says what's the median of sales, there has been sales at 20 keys, some at 18 keys, and many in between. The interval represents the interval of uncertainty of the price, not a selling range like backpack.tf

Well then what does "max price" mean? Is that still a median?

it's a "range of averages", max and min are still averages, they represent the fluctuation of the median during that lapse of time

Yes it's a range of medians (not averages) over 24 hours.

Yes min and max prices are both medians, they represent the interval of uncertainty of the median itself. If you look at newly released items they typically start with a very large min-max difference, meaning the interval uncertainty is initially large and as more data comes it quickly refined to a small range.

upvote. You could probs guess why

Proof looks good; seems to reflect the current prices well. I wouldn't have argued with 18.5-19, either, but I think 19 is a reasonable price.

In the past few days, I've seen lots of people asking $34-35 for Earbuds on SOP forums. I believe that's slightly lower than the suggested price here, after converting $ to keys.

Happened last year at halloween as well buds dropped a few keys...

I also agree. On all of the trading servers I've been on all earbud sellers have been selling at 19 keys. One was selling for 18. Good job btw

good proof

upvote

With Halloween in 3 weeks (bringing new unusual effects and thus mass uncrating), I wouldn't be surprised if buds went as far down as 16 keys. I suppose that's why people are selling in anticipation.

how many days till halloween?

Plenty sellers at 19 keys and even below. Solid upvote. Great proof. :)