Suggestion: Earbuds at 17 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14965770 - 114 views. 1 bookmark. He was most likely AFK or Offline and couldn't make the trade so he had to do it later that day.

All other links sold ~1 minute. You're making this too easy.

The first 3 links sold in a minute

The 4th link sold in 30 minutes

5th link was selling at 17 keys and 2 refined and took an hour. Providing counterproof?

How do you see the first 3 links sold within a minute?

Second, with these links+classifeds shows 17 keys for a bud is not uncommon.

That people buy the buds at 17 keys should make you happy since it would be even worse if people only wanted to buy buds for 16 keys or lower.

It is possible getting buds for 17 keys, and since you have new sellers at 17 keys it can hardly be argued as being quicksales.

People are losing faith in buds(for the time being). Do not see how this makes people upset, this is just what happened to metal and keys last year.

Third, you yourself have helped to this issue by selling all your buds the last couple of days. Mass sales of buds are dropping the price, not the price suggestion on backpack.tf.

You don't have to repeat yourself. I have heard everything you just said, before.

I know that they sold in a minute because I went to http://www.tf2outpost.com/settings and selected "Show absolute timestamps instead of relative." Now I will repeat myself: 17 keys is a quicksell. Range is better than flat price.

You disregarded answering my statements, especially the last one of you yourself selling buds. For me discussion is therefore over.

Vote how you please and we will see how it goes. Good luck with your trades. :)

Disliking my comments won't get this suggestion accepted. I hope you know that. Well I guess I won't be getting a response from you then since you said the discussion is over for you. Unless you're a liar.

I am not disliking your comments, you have every right to express your opinion and I am of the strong belief that censorship of opinions is a bad idea. :)

And yes I have nothing more to say about the other matter, and trying to provoke by implying I am lying wont make me change that position.

Have a nice day.

http://i.imgur.com/5bgpiOA.png?1 - Yesterday

http://i.imgur.com/PfDfz0m.png?1 - Do the math

You shouldn't base most of your proof off of the Classifieds. Since there the lower price for the same item is listed first, people can list 17.99 keys, and never see the people selling for 18 keys. 18 keys is still possible and shouldn't be taken out of range, as you can see by my recent transactions

Well seeing as though you sold them both on outpost, that isn't very surprising. People check backpack.tf for the price and when they see it is 18 keys they buy it from the first seller at 18 keys or lower, you just happened to get lucky with that

Outpost, backpack.tf, lucky, disappointing; doesn't matter where or how it's sold, proof is proof, and I proved it is still possible to sell at 18 keys

Nope not possible at 18 keys anymore when so many sell at 17 accept the truth please. So many people in denial over here...

Not denial. Just proof. I have no reason to be in denial, but I can provide all the proof i want

I sold like 2 buds @ 18 keys each within 2 hours of listing.

http://imgur.com/pWHugyc

that trade was a day ago

My counterproof on the other suggestion

counter proofing

SOLD/SELLING at 17 KEYS

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9834158 selling 2 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9834118 selling 4 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15005645 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15005281 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15005063 <---insta sold within 1 hour

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15001769 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://bazaar.tf/trade/478843 selling 4 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14999728 <---insta sold within 1 hour

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14970657 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14992277 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14982592 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14988995 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14986202 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://bazaar.tf/trade/477501 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14982768 <---insta sold within 30 mins this was sold long ago

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14982645 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14982142 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://bazaar.tf/trade/476136 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14975693 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14975531 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14973227 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14971922 <---insta sold within 1 hour

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14965770 <---insta sold within 1 hour

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14961863 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14961372 <---insta sold within 1 hour

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14958189 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15007289 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14851527 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14882284 selling 2 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14999486 <---insta sold within 1 hour

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14999279 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14997111 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14988939 <---insta sold within 1 hour

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14995478 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14994116 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14993323 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14993048 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14987782 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://bazaar.tf/trade/478257 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14992277 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14982592 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14988995 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14986202 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://bazaar.tf/trade/477501 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14982768 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14982645 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14982142 <---insta sold within 30 mins

http://bazaar.tf/trade/476136 <---insta sold within 30 mins

17 keys is a quick sale.

Two threads on reddit today sold 17 key buds at a rate of 1/1 hour. That's reddit. Shit's slow.

On outpost mine sold at a rate of 1 per 1-1.5 hours.

Quicksells, yo.

It is selling quick, but it is clear that a lot of people are doing it, enough people to change the price.

Lol ill assume you just went on trade.tf and listed a bunch of their links.

The price on bp is the price which people are willing to sell at and users can easily buy at, it's pretty clear that 17 keys is a quick sale and isnt readily available at that price.

You should check backpack.tf- classifeds listing. Every hour are new 17 keys-bud-sellers. And 17 key-sellers are getting more and more.

Do not worry Derpeh, you will be able to sell your buds, it is not like buds are dropping to 14 keys...not yet anyways.

Lol I seem to be able to sell for 18 keys fine O_O http://imgur.com/pWHugyc (trade was yesterday)

Yes classifieds has sellers below 18 keys but it isnt readily available at 17 keys. Again, the price on bp is the price which people are willing to sell at and users can easily buy at, it's pretty clear that 17 keys is a quick sale and isnt readily available at that price. It's obvious that the price isnt 17 keys flat dont know why you are arguing...

And meh buds are gonna shoot back up right after Halloween.

Yes and all the guys above that are selling buds for 17 keys are doing it just fine. :o

Oh and the guys below here (additional sales at 17 keys) are also doing fine selling buds at 17 keys :o

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15013002

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15026953 (active trade put up 30 mins ago)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15025146

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15023734

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15023634

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15021885

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15020713 (Sold at 16 keys+5 ref)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15020533

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15020466 (sf grenade launcher+6 keys)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15016789

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15013171

Isnt ready available? Trades at 17 keys are happening every day and it is just not one sale per day or something like that.

And I do wonder what your definition of quicksale is, having the trade up for 4 hours? 16 hours?

For me it is kinda pointless discussing this with you. You have buds at sale for 18 keys on backpack.tf, so you are bias in this price suggestion. If the price suggestion passes it will be harder for you to sell at 18 keys.

Also if 18 keys are such a good price, why do you still have not sold all buds?

You have been selling off your unusals for pure buds, so you have direct losses to make if buds drop in price. Again all the people here with buds they are selling/have sold last days are helping to cause this problem.

Stop selling your buds and the supply will be lower.

"And meh buds are gonna shoot back up right after Halloween."

You mean like they said metalprice for keys would go down after Halloween last year...

Yeah they are doing fine because it's a quick sale. You're arguing that it should be 17 keys flat, when they are selling out within 30 mins it's obvious that it shouldnt be 17 keys flat.

sigh... please learn to read as i have said im not agreeing with 18 keys im saying that 17 keys flat is the wrong price.

In regards to my unsuuals, i bought them for cheap even if i sold my buds for around 15 keys i would still be profiting :l

Metal in USD will always be going down because metal is free, you play you get. Keys = 2.50. If you were informed around halloween and christmas the buds drop and rise back right after because people dump buds for keys to unbox

Your trade at 18 keys is just an outlier... these things happen when people don't check trading sites or don't care for prices so much. Haha. So yeah they are 17 keys even 16 would start to look good soon just accept the truth man.

again im not arguing that 18 keys is correct im saying that 17 keys flat isnt... nearly all 17 sellers sell out very fast...

Goddamit what happend to the beloved buds -.- sad story !

Good proof anyway

All want to quickly sell it, because they are afraid that the value drops even more, which proves this suggestion

18 keys is still attainable for buds. Downvote

Proof: http://imgur.com/psw9QjU

counter proof

SOLD AT 17 Keys 1 Ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14999920

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14988989

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9832474

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14968703

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15011707

SOLD AT 17 KEYS 2 REF

http://postimg.org/image/5tfoafqv1/

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15002449

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14993718

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15022909

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14987745

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14988171

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14977571

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15007768

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14992998 Sold 3 out of 5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15009823

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15017862

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15014682 sold check item history

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15020830

SOLD AT 17 KEYS 3 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15009185

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14991554

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14998933

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14995377

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14994457

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15021828

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14991554

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14985186

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14985148

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14971201

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15009185

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9832070

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14980098

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9831885

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15016586

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14968128

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9831170

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14958132

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9830998

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14978270

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14974579

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14955567

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14969652

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14967803

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14955567

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14871790

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14872591

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14875130

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14876209

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14881888

http://bazaar.tf/trade/467435

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15015171

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15000529 selling 6 sold 1

http://postimg.org/image/j9dm45ah7/

17 flat is inaccurate

Buds 16 keys and deal. everyday buds drop the price so make it 16 keys forever.

None are selling for 16 though....

earbuds are getting brutally murdered right now

I managed to sell one pretty quickly a 18

Was it over outpost or backpack.tf?

Please tell me why it matters?

People on backpack.tf are more aware of prices where as on outpost there is a higher chance they are not

Show me a trade on Outpost where sellers/buyers don't follow backpack.tf prices.

I bet not even 5% of trades are like those. Stop trying to defend yourself - 18 keys is possible.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14771745

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14688431

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14408953

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14722632

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14283776

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14092124

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13633523

Thats only 1/8th of the first page....not gonna waste my time getting you 100 links

People have the right to ask for whatever amount they want to. They most likely won't get it if it's above backpack.tf pricing, but they can try nonetheless. My request was to show trades of people selling any item (not just buds) at lower than market price; not buds at higher than market price.

"Show me a trade on Outpost where sellers/buyers don't follow backpack.tf prices." No where in that sentence does it say lower....

Why would I want you to show me trade where people ask for more than what they're gonna get? Common sense. And I sold my buds for 18 keys to a bud BUYER, not a key seller. I'm not sure what point you're trying to make

I could ask you the same thing...what point are you trying to make by asking me to show you people who don't follow backpack.tf prices

He's proving you wrong. BARELY anyone sells items under bp.tf price, not including quicksells.

Can you provide proof?

I'll Try and find it but it was I game on pink taco I said selling bud for 18 keys and an insta trade so I don't have proof about the time or speed I sold it in soz I his know it was in about 1 mins

Actually, some of the sales actually depends on luck

true i guess

There, now this range is a lot better. Still staying neautral on this. Good luck.

cant we just let buds settle for a bit? it was only 4 days since last suggestion

If the market has changed by a significant degree in the last 4 days, people have a right to suggestion a new, more accurate price. If buds are being sold in large quantities below the current price, then it would show the current price is already outdated, and is in need of an update.

You can easily sell for more than 17 keys. Downvote.

I would love for you to show me that

I sold 2 for 17.5 about 2 hours ago, I sold 1 for 18 yesterday, and three for 17.5 the day before that. Do you need me to go fish out my backpack history? Also, you need to look at the buyers. Are there buyers at 17? There are probably a good number of them.

The bot is selling buds for 17.2 - 24/7 so where's the point paying more if you can get one right now for 17.2?

Just sold 6 at 18 keys a pop.

108 keys.

Proof :

http://i.imgur.com/Vo2FMnZ.png

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14992411

if it goes under its old price (14keys) they should now longer be a currency

I just wanna say that maybe 18 keys should still be in the range.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14945226 <-- it says 19 but I ended up selling all for 18

I have sold many buds for 18 keys each in the past few days and I believe it is still too early to remove that from the range yet. Just a heads up =)

I am still selling buds for 18 keys. If this gets passed, it will prevent these sales from occurring because of the price manipulation.

Can't we all just not upvote these sugestions? Jeez.

downvote, 18 keys should still be in range

Proof: http://imgur.com/psw9QjU

Good proofs Upvote!

Downvote. This is simply irresponsible.

I don't get it...when it comes keys and there are sale happening at the current price, but sold out pretty quickly, you say: "No, these are quicksales"

When the same happens to buds and you say "No, these are the ones selling at the new correct price"

Can you guys please make up your mind? You can't say on one hand that trades that are not available all the time and sold out pretty quickly are quicksales and on the other hand the correct new price.

this is why I never want to have buds, there rocketing down and are going to cause a crash soon

STOP TO DEVALUE

CORRUPT PEOPLE, WHY THE ADMINS ALLOW THIS?

BACKPACK TF THE BIGGEST FRAUD IN ECONOMICS TF2

STOP !!!!

Don't care if this gets hidden or whatever, but if people keep making suggestions for buds they're going to fall lower and lower.... e.g. If this website says buds are 18 keys people will sell for 17, if it says they're 17 then people will sell for 16 because they don't want to still own them when they fall lower and lower! Buds won't rise in price until this stops.

Closing due to counterproof in comments