Suggestion: The Kringle Collection at 1–1.2 keys

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~2.44 ref

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630 votes down

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This suggestion was closed Mon, 04 Nov 13 16:44:27 +0000 by polar.

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Sellers below 1.2 -

New links -

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15419481 - 5ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15399840 - 6ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15440374 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15429394 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15424555 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15423569 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15398109 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15395047 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15416272 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15417409 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15393780 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15405524 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15414102 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15406508 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15415798 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15420904 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15400477 - 1.00

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9867714 - 1.00

http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9867395 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15421782 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15422013 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15422650 - 1.00 (in items)

Old links -

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15134071 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15133046 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15105473 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15130059 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15103575 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15091437 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15104879 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15096098 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15100392 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15102642 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15103346 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15099502 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15105037 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15120573 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15117840 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15120955 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15117840 - 1.00

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15122537 - 1.00

You're only proving 1 key is a quicksale. DOWNVOTE.

1 key is a very quick sell. 1.2 is even quick. this needs a raise in price. down vote

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15374760

http://i.imgur.com/Ulgl8RS.png?1

Hurpaderpahurp

They sold all to quickly downvote because the keys are like 3 hours, etc.

Buyers:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15179859 6 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15440402 1 key

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15435145 1 key

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15410051 1 key

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15318959 1 key

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14975310 1 key

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15430635 1 key

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15347276 1 key

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15247515 1 key

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11579041 1 key (inactive)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/9736982 1 key (inactive)

1 key is quicksell

UPVOTE

Realistic range

1 Key has been a quick sell for the last month

Selling at 1.2 Keys is also relatively easy.

Good Range.

Having bought 10 + Kringle Collection's for a Key and sold for 1.2 Keys - guessing that I am not the only one who has come to realize that this should be the range.

If 1.2 Keys sell easy, it means you likely need to raise the price, not lower it.

That would be great for me - more profit :)

However - my point it that right now 1 Key is does appear quite a lot of the market (even though it's a quick sale) and i would be tough to sell easily above 1.2 Keys at the moment - Thus why I supported the range :)

very easy to sell at 1.2 keys 1 key gets scathed instantly

I have three unsold kringles that have been constantly bumped for a week at 1.2. I see people all the time selling for lower than 1.2, and I had bought five in the past for 5.66. I think this definitely reflects market price.

I think you're wrong. Proof?

I believe I detailed the reason quite well below if you want to check it out.

I wouldn't buy from you either based on the way you set up your trade:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15454346

1) I have to open the trade to view notes.

2) I have to go to backpack.tf pricelist and wait for it to load.

3) I have to type in "Kringle" and see what the price is which is 1.2 keys.

4) I have to figure out how much 0.2 keys is worth.

5) I have to come back to your trade and add you.

That is too many steps for the target audience who are going to buy your Kringles. When I was flipping Kringles from buying for a key and selling for 1 key and 1 refined, I was able to do it easily because I made my trades simple.

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Way I set up my trade:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15034289

Note:

- Only Kringle Collections for sale.

- Price I want clearly defined before even opening the trade.

- Price repeated once the trade is open.

Bonuses:

- Friendly opening.

- Picture of what the Kringle Collection looks for and which class wears it.

Over the course of just two days I was able to buy/sell 9 Kringle Collections because I gave a clear price of what I was after. Proof of sales: http://imgur.com/a/raIaz and http://imgur.com/a/JJCOL

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Another aspect that you do not have is auto-bump. You say you "constantly" bump your trades, but how often are you online? Are you running back to Outpost every 30 minutes and bumping your trade or might there be lapses of an hour or more in-between bumps? That disparity accompanied with the layout of your trade makes me not the least bit surprise to learn you haven't sold any so far.

I recently switched to that forma, in my older trades it shows firm prices at 1.2.

Looks like you've already sold two Kringles :D

And maybe you are right. All I'm saying is that I have had difficulty with it, and I was able to buy many at 5.66.

"Quicksell" lol that shit word that every random dumb trader have to say when someone don't agree with his opinion.

Sold is sold, and that's a bunch, I don't know what can categorize a "quicksell" or not.

Are you serious? I will explain it for you; "quicksell" is when something is at a price where people buy it quickly and is not a satisfactory example of a average price. Do you get it?

Still shit. Sold is sold omg.

Alright, say you sell that S. Merc's Scarf of yours for 5 keys, and it gets bought within 2 minutes, does that honestly constitute valid proof for lowering something?

Exactly as Curly said. I can put a key in the classifieds for 2 refined, and I would get about 500 hundred adds in 2 seconds flat. Does that mean that we should lower key prices to 2 ref, because it sells? No, because keys can sell for much, much higher than that. Same thing with the kringle.

Defining a quicksell is always tricky since different items sell at different speeds. This depends on item quality, type, but most importantly value.

My criteria, and a criteria I know at least some of the other mods use, is that for a value to be included in the range, there have to be at least 1-2 on the market available at that price. There are currently 0 kringles available for 1 key if I wanted to buy now. The only one I see is the one up in classifieds for 4 days. The guy is afk.

As for the issue of a quicksell.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15490836 - I think we can safely call 1 key a quicksell. 3 adds listed in 2 minutes. Probably had more that didn't even comment.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15489831 - added in 1 minute

I think we can safely call the low end here too low.