Suggestion: The Flapjack at 1–1.33 keys

In one of the suggestions, the guy was asking for a spooky key 1:1, which isn't a key, and in the tf2outpost one, the guy is asking 1 key + metal and was even offered 1 key + 1 ref in that trade.

Only thing that "must be downed" here is your suggestion

A spooky key is still only worth 1.1 keys

True I agree with that statement

It all still falls within his range except for the 5 ref one, lol

Last links is "1 key + some metal"

1 key trades sold pretty quickly.

Gonna downvote this one

Also, nobody selling on Outpost for a key

[b]Nobody/b]

So many proofs O_o

Could we see proof that 1.33 is still possible?

He doesn't really need to show that, only if he was excluding 1.33 keys from range, which he isn't

That doesn't make sense. He only provided proof of sales 1 ref or lower. So what I'm saying is, if you're going to leave 1.33 in the range, at least show us a few trades proving that it can still be sold there. IF you can't then maybe it shouldn't even be in the range, ya know?

He doesn't need to prove it's still possible to sell at 1.33 keys if he isn't excluding it from the range. 1.33 keys was already in range, so unless he was just suggesting a price at 1 key, he doesn't need to show 1.33 is still possible. Makes sense to me.

What you're saying is that there are people selling for less than 1.33 keys, so 1.33 keys isn't possible? By that logic, there would be no ranges, however, ranges, ironically, make prices more accurate.

If an item is 2 keys because of initial hpe and the price dies down really quickly to 1 key, it's not 1-2 keys. It's 1 key.

He still needs to show that 1.33 keys is still possible.

Either way this orice suggestion won't get accepted, and what i say is true so not sure about the dislikes, but whatever.

So let's say the Fireproof Diary is worth 2.2 - 2.4 (ish) buds, like it once was. It then drops to 16 keys. I resuggest it as 1 - 2.2 buds, and only provide proof of 1 bud sales. By your reasoning that's a legit suggestion and should be accepted based on proof of ONLY 1 bud sales.

I didn't say this guy's proof is good, I even downvoted

Anyway, look at the guy below me.

Also, I asked the question the the forums or whatever: http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/4883-need-to-prove-high-end-is-possible-when-lowering-the-price-yet-keeping-a-range/

e.g.: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/527c3cdd4dd7b8b4068b456b

Has no no proof of "solds" at 5 ref, yet gets an upvote from one of the best suggesters out there?

I guess that proves something

You kind of misrepresented me there. I didn't say 1.33 isn't possible, I just said that we need to prove that it still is possible. Like my example up there, if there are 12 sales of 16 keys, and that's all you show, then people are going to want some proof that 2.2 buds is still possible. While I believe 1.33 is still possible I only wanted some proof in case it wasn't, and it falls upon the suggester to get the proof.

i hate tf2tp in proof cos u cant see how fast it is sold. and for the unsold. comeon, who uses tf2tp...

anyways. everything under 1.33key is a quicksell and even some 1.33 r sold instantly. price is fine, downvote.

1key1.66ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15507106 sold in 1bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15528395 sold in 1bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15518917 sold instantly

1key1ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15509081 sold instantly

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15530011 sold instantly

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15526706 sold instantly

1key

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15516025 sold instantly

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15519072 sold instanly

1.33key

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15492697 sold instantly

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15526706 sold instantly

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15488689 sold 3hrs

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15509945 sold 4hrs

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15486908 sold 7hrs

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15504792 sold 12hrs

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15504779 sold 17hrs

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15461129

1 key + some metal does not mean 1 key.

People were rejected for offering 1 key + 1 ref.

if anything it should go up in a bazaar.tf trade a guy 1:1 did a trade for 1 key and 5 ref wprth

One trade, just because a guy sold it for more does not mean all of these are worth that amount. Can you supply evidence?

Here are some recent solds for reference:

Solds___________________________

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15516025 - 1 key

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15519072 - 1 key

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15533146 - 1 key

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15537859 - 1 key + 0.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15509081 - 1 key + 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15530011 - 1 key + 1

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15531767 - 1.2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15526706 - 1.2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15511530 - 1.2 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15528896 - 7.55 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15528395 - 7.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15518917 - 1 key + 1.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15534638 - 1 key + 1.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15507106 - 1 key + 1.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15514186 - 1 key + 2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15510217 - 1 key + 2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15532973 - 1 key + 2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15527104 - 1 key + 2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15518214 - 1 key + 3

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15521848 - 2 keys

Not saying one way or the other, just providing quick and easy proof to look at if you're unsure.

Literally every trade here sold within a day.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15461129 sold for more than 1 key

I sold mine 2 hours ago for 8 ref after 2 bumps on outpost

Not a hard sell...

Doesn't need a drop...

You should probably close it, don't want your rep to fall

I think the price should lower down to how much the fast learner and track should be in a couple months.

"it needs a downfall" wat.

Also, its very popular

and there's a lot of counter proof. There may be outliers, but the current price is fine

Needs proof of unsold at 1.33 keys, or those that weren't sold like, instantly when they were listed at a key. Not enough proof to warrant changing the price, downvoting unless other proof is provided.