Suggestion: Spellbound Katyusha at 78.14–88.56 keys

Price Suggestion

Spellbound Katyusha

Submitted Thu, 07 Nov 13 18:26:18 +0000 by ★ amurA

68.07%

n/a

78.14–88.56 keys

~820 keys

spellbnd

81 votes up

38 votes down

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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15364864 sold for phos grimm hatte 5.8-6.5

have offers heard spartan 4.3 - 4.7 (but old price)

and this man offered on my platets tc (6.3- 6,6) http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14907543 i think its optimal price on this hat

Just because he offered on a Planets TC, doesn't mean it should be priced at that; it's not valid.

why not? his buy this for hatte whith overpay

He simply offered on a Orbiting TC, the owner of the TC didn't accept this offer.

Just to clarify, the guy suggesting owns the TC in question...

/facepalm, I didn't even notice. So, I'm assuming Amura accepted that offer. If so, then it's valid proof.

" http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15364864 sold for phos grimm hatte 5.8-6.5 "

hurray hurray, I was right. He wrote in his description that he had no idea what the hat is worth, so no B/O and I wrote nearly an essay in the comments why this hat was around 6 buds. Then that ******** (insert a swear here) reported my comment as "comment about the price" and it was hidden by a mod.

What were you right about?

"I wrote nearly an essay in the comments why this hat was around 6 buds"

That's pretty amazing that you can pricecheck a hat that had never been traded before. I see why they banned you.

Nah, they banned me because I linked my trade to bazaar.tf. I mean seriously?

And I had my reasons. I valued the spellbound and that other "spellbook" effect as the weaker halloween effects this year and compared them to the robo effects memory leaked and overclocked.

As the Stormy Storm Katyusha was already priced I calculated what an overclocked or memory leaked one would cost in comparison (percentage seen from other unusuals) and added a bit because the effect was better than memory leak/overclocked, added another bit because it was a brand new hat (or at least one that was added to the unusuals lately) and my result was 5 buds. Then I caculated in the current hype and my result was 6 buds.

Ofc that was all highly speculative and subjective (and I wrote that).

And all that was hidden because that person reported my comment :/

Yeah you're comment was ridiculous and I'm glad it was hidden. You speculating on prices in another persons trade is completely against the rules. Hopefully you learned your lesson and won't do it again. Keep your personal opinions to yourself next time.

Obviously I was right, oh well. Statistics can be applied to value new effects it seems. Though a suggestion is out of question of course.

a guy in the comments give him more proof and this hat were 1 out of 1

http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51a70047ba2536e827000005

I considered this as unusual overpay - u cant do it u must put the right price not price u thinking that is "right"

and my second sale http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15317320 sold for roboactive mountain cap

Sweet! you got two sales finally :) So close this suggestion down and remake it and you should be good to go. Also,you have to use original prices (click stats under the hat and mouse over the last blue dot on the graph) for your unusuals

Need a minimum of two proof of sales to price a hat. http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/3306-new-rule-regarding-unusual-suggestions-two-sales-rule/

There are 2, are you blind ?

haha maybe I am, where is Proof of second Sale?

dont have at this moment

So I'm not blind? Auroz, where is the second proof of sale? Where are you seeing it?

lol why am I getting downvoted here? Even amurA has said that there aren't 2 sales. Do I really need to explain why offers don't count as sales?

the second link is his trade if he will accept the offer he have 2 solds

Until he accepts it, we don't have 2 solds

agrre with it untill he not accept it and he have some proof on 6.1 - 6.2 buds

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15364864 sold for phos grimm hatte 5.8-6.5 its 6.1 - 6.2 buds

u need to accept the offer to do this one

and i recommend to put range at 6.1- 6.4 buds

and some more question from were the 4.5 - 5.1 buds came ?

I considered this as unusual overpay

Here, too, no two sales but the price was accepted http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51a70047ba2536e827000005

That was 5 months ago. Thank god backpack.tf decided that was a poor way to price hats and decided to enact the proof of two sales policy. http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/3306-new-rule-regarding-unusual-suggestions-two-sales-rule/

you cant suggest a price for a new hat eith only 1 sell

usaully the first ones are outliers they should drop in the next trades

i have 2 sales

you should remake the suggestion because a lot of people voted when you only had 1 sale. and you need to use original prices. and you need to organize it better.

normal people open suggestion then vote

What does that even mean?

So here are the two sales:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15317320 - offered on the mountain cap so no overpay ~4.5

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15364864 - phos grimm ~4 after overpay

Highest other offers I see are ~3 (hearts spartan)

Please refer here before making your next suggestion: http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/4350-new-rule-use-original-suggested-values-of-unusuals/

You need to use the previous suggested price and not the current listed price due to inflation.

For example, the grimm hatte was last suggested at 4-4.5 - http://backpack.tf/stats/383/5/63

Look at the suggestion and the last blue dot on the graph

Range here shouldn't be higher than the two sales at 4 and 4.5