Suggestion: Demonflame Wraith Wrap at 618.37–655.85 keys

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~500 keys

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1 proof:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15447220

http://joxi.ru/TZx-Utg5CbDyFJpbKgo

Sold for Unusual Tyrantium Helmet (Miami Nights) - 12.3 buds + Unusual Towering Titanium Pillar of Hats (Sulphurous) - 8 buds + Unusual Conjurer's Cowl (Power Surge) - 3.8 buds + Unusual Hottie's Hoodie (Anti-Freeze) - 6.7 buds + Unusual Frenchman's Beret (Circling Heart) - 2.5 buds. Total ~ 33.3 buds

2 proof:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15606600

http://joxi.ru/KQmDUtg5CbAyV7JtHuk

Sold for Unusual Brotherhood of Arms (Cloud 9) - 24.2 buds + Wraith Wrap (Power Surge) - 7 buds + 8 buds pure. Total ~ 39.2 buds

Did you use original suggested values? Seems way too high to me

Any idea what the third sale went for?

Yes, the use of the original price

What do you mean?

Nvm i just looked into it, nice alts also:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15814353 (b/o 13 buds)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15690876 this guy's b/o is 15 buds

It's his decision. I gave you 2 of the proof

This guy tricks us

Murderer(current owner) is his alt

this alt has both the wraith wrap with demonflame and the cloud9 boa and surge wrap.That means the 2nd sale is invalid

waiting for mod to figure that out

Wait .. white huntsman is his friend or something on the first link http://joxi.ru/TZx-Utg5CbDyFJpbKgo you can see that he has traded something with him below

it works like that

Darwin trades to Huntsman.Huntsman trades to murderer

all of these are alts i think!!

i want somebody to investigate

I find it weird that all the users "murderer, Darwin, Zavgara, white huntsman" share so much item history together. Even the crates in Zavgaras backpack. http://www.tf2outpost.com/backpack/76561198084274790

Another clear bp with shared item history with crates: http://www.tf2outpost.com/backpack/76561198084281124

Checking all the history of unusuals in this bp http://www.tf2outpost.com/backpack/76561198084295557 shows shared history with these same persons.

About the second sale to white huntsman. Funny that I check his bp and click nearly any random item there I will find out that items have been passing around these 4 players. I smell alts

He even failed lying at the first screenshot he traded with his alt, you can see his name

I didn't even see that earlier. epic :D

Actually now once we are at it. The bp I linked earlier "bullet" is in the 2nd pic the guy provided. Shared item history with white huntsman with some of the crates and some of the crates share history with all 3.

No doupt you were right.

where the range comes from??

In the proofs of all written

where does the 35 come from?

39 overpay = 35 lol "logic"

I found that a large range of 33-39. Therefore, I decided 33-35

I do not understand you

confused of the suggester backpack history ..

http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198084259217

no unusual or anything worth 1 bud , only at the time of the proof trades .

then i don't understand Russian to trust what was written in he SS .

need translator !

darwin = murderer , it's probably his alt

I feel like Murderer has tried using backpack.tf to manipulate his items' values in the past. Does anyone remember exactly? I know that he has been involved with something like that and mentioned on the forums. I'm certain that I've seen him bring an armada of his secondary accounts to his suggestions.

Moving on, the buy-out price at fifteen disproves this suggestion. He has had it listed for five days so even if he has suddenly dropped it for a quick sale, it still certainly shows that 31.5 is far too high. If you disagree with this comment them you should go and buy it from him quickly now since you must then feel confident that it can reach 39 from what you've said. That profit of 24 buds is $720! Wouldn't you love to get $720 for absolutely free?

he probably is:

also used his alts on this one: http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5283f20e4dd7b8e45c8b456b

it's the second link, check the item history, murderer pops up again

i posted about it before, murderer and his gang were all banned for a week on a sulph pillar or something like that. i have a feeling that they are hijackers/dupers as well

Sale #1:

Miami Nights Tyrantium Helmet original values are 12.3, ~11 after overpay

Sulphurous Towering Titanium Pillar original values are 8 - 9.4, ~7.8 after overpay

Power Surge Conjurer's Cowl original values are 3.8 - 4.2, ~3.6 after overpay

Anti-Freeze Hottie's Hoodie original values are 6.7 - 7, ~6.2 after overpay

Circling Heart Beret original values are 2.5 - 3, ~2.5 after overpay

Total Sale: ~30.1

Sale #2:

Cloud 9 Brotherhood of Arms original values are 24.2 - 30.1, ~24.4 after overpay

Power Surge Wraith Wrap original values are 7 - 7.8, ~6.7 after overpay

Total Sale: ~39.1

I didn't really check if any of the hats were duped gifted or even confirmed your sales, but if you use the sales as they are your first sale overpay is not good because many low hats with small range is better off using mid price * 0.9, your 2nd is accurate with just low end though

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15814353 (b/o 13 buds)

From other comments seems like this guy has been manipulating

Can't even vote on this suggestion (2poor4you) but I feel if the allegations in here are true, Darwin and alts should definitely be banned from this website.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15690876 - had a b/o of 15

Lowered to 13: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15814353