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Last suggestion passed with a single sale and even that guy that bought said he thought it was a bad deal for him.
"Anyhow, recently sold mine for S Machina with Headshots
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15942373
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15950509
To this guy.
"Thing is that he said he didn't check prices beforehand and thought he got a bad deal, so does that sale count?"
Current one on the market will settle for "14-18" but I contacted someone he seemed interested in trading with, he said he would settle for 16 keys.
"nommykins: Can you remind me how many keys you would want for the unusual?
Avery, Son of Winter: 16 is my lowest"
Quoting previous suggestion to show why this really shouldn't have went up.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13903958
Here's a trade, with one guy saying he'd pay the 18 keys b/o, fell through prob
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15742274
Offers of 14 keys in items and 12 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15614197
Got offered smoking safe n sound (14)
This proof is a bit shaky so feel free to provide counters."
So one sale of Strange Machina that previous suggester admits the buyer regrets. One offer of 18 keys that didn't go through and a lot of 14 keys in items and unusual offers. Also, current owner says he would sell for less, with his B/O below current price. No real sale proof to say this should have been raised.
offers are not proof. where does this range come from other then that?
That is my point, last one passed with no evidence of sales except for a 1 time sale which the buyer admits he regrets because he had no idea what the price was. Last one passed with offers supporting the old range and should not have passed.
so tell me, WHY should this pass then, if the other one shouldn't have?
I think I just explained that. Please read over it again.
Also nice job copy pasting the proof of the last suggestion. even if you had the right proof, your suggestion will never pass just copy and pasting it all. that's just being something most people call, pardon my french, lazy fucks.
Ok mate, you really need to read over this again before commenting to understand and realize exactly why this was made. Several times a suggestion has passed and another suggestion made to point out why it was wrong and passed by pointing out the flaws on the previous suggestion.
Also, please try not to insult other users. It is generally frowned upon.
A sale is a sale. if anything, the range should be 18 flat because 12 and 14 were never accepted; and you need atleast 1 sale inbetween now and the last pricing, which you don't have.
And I never insulted you, I told you what other people think of it.
Not really how things work. A man buys a painting worth £50 for £100 doesn't increase the value, especially if he then says "Oh damn, I didn't realize, I paid too much", that is what most people refer to as a out liner on this website. The previous suggester also mentioned this and called it shaky evidence at best. There have been prices rejected with better proof submitted, and this suggestion is here to point it out.
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51feaed2ba2536302f000001 hmm, wonder why that was closed. maybe it was because he copy pasted. Also, you can't lower a price with offers. you may want to suggest at 14 flat or close the suggestion, because there are no sales supporting your range.
You really either do not understand what I am saying or flat out refuse to just read it at this point. I get what you are saying, I do, but I disagree, the price shouldn't have passed, that's what I'm pointing out here. Stop mentioning offers, that's not what this suggestion is about. You made your point and I disagree, let what happens happen, please move on.