- Forums
-
Pricing
- Community Pricing
- Pricegrid
- Spreadsheet
- Browse Suggestions
- Latest Changes
- Unusual Pricelist
- Browse by Item
- Browse by Effect
- Steam Community Market
- Market Pricelist
-
Trading
- Classifieds
- Classified Listings
- Utilities
- Calculator
- Premium Search
- Statistics
Everything here has been open at some moment between yesterday and today. Many people are buying at 18 keys, so it seems like a quicksale price. People may change the notes so I can't guarantee that the price I sorted it under is what's currently on the trade.
<19 and >18.5 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16126353
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16132154
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16126865
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16129358
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16129837
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16127561
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16122169
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16065595
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16081424
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15913043
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16087078
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16089887
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16033334
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16052979
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15644415
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15991642
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16041152
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15803994
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16101988
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15956975
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16064704
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16087078
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16089887
<=18.5 and >18 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14482096
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16067026
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16114084
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16052290
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16132688
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16125239
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16140956
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16132424
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16121873
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16115645
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14648748
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16112888
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16109585
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16084614
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16101155
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16044143
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16110656
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16080229
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16114084
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16088750
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16109585
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16058133
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16062927
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16108085
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13168732
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15820963
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16071240
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16101888
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16059337
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16054384
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16037662
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15977078
18 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16133337
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14906084
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15849968
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16069288
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16054738
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15944207
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15992201
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14906084
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16112472
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16082138
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16078244
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16077739
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16073155
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16104294
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16096361
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16082138
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14153639
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16026936
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16010975
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15982874
http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9918895
http://tf2finance.com/ is stabilizing around 18.3.
http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/51fffababa2536b875000004/1
http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/51fffababa2536b875000004/2
First two pages for 18.5 keys
-> Upvote
*keys dude, keys
Oh ;D, sorry just woke up xD i edited it
And in one week this will look completely differnt. Screenshots are better.
and what about the other 5 pages at 19 keys or more?
19 is still in the range, but it is really easy to buy for 18 or 18.5
Please mods if u gonna close suggestions becouse of the cooldown rule , u need to fix this "" updated No date provided ""
Upvote.
what colldown rule...its been over 1 week since last update.
I was selling buds at 19 keys for 5 days zero sold drop it gradualy at 18 keys 3 ref to actually sell them.
upvote from me.
Yeah no idea where that is coming from, anyways you can see the date here too (and the cooldown is fine).
found this guy selling 2-3buds at 18keys each
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16112472
upvote :3
Upvote. Bought and sold a few for around 18.5
Will add pics later
Too soon for this vote!!!
My 19 key sale proof:
http://i.imgur.com/jtdaLzv.png < Sold 2 buds
http://i.imgur.com/k0rVL3Y.png < Sold 1 bud @ 23 - 24 in mixed.
http://i.imgur.com/GD3h2YE.png < Sold 1 bud @ 19 keys + 1 ref mixed, already sold both the limes for a key, so 19+ keys on that bud.
http://i.imgur.com/2Mbvxfb.png < Sold 1 bud @19 keys pure
http://i.imgur.com/mbcDyLZ.png < Sold 1 @ 19 keys
http://i.imgur.com/cVRhyp2.png < Another sale @ 19 keys
http://i.imgur.com/f5Rt3AJ.png < Sold @ 19 keys
http://i.imgur.com/3fwORZj.png < Sold 2 more at 19 keys
I cant be bothered screenshotting anymore but I have sold almost 20 buds at 19 keys each or severe overpay in mixed in the last 5 days. Let's go straight to outpost!
Outpost proofs:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16110513 < Selling 2 @ 19 keys each, 1 sold.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15398678 < Scroll down, was offered 19 keys and 19 keys + 5 ref for bud.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16059179 < Sold 1 @ 19 keys, about to sell 2nd for 19 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13984828 < Selling @ 20 keys each, 3 interested buyers in last week willing to purchase 5 buds at that price.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16119685 < Sold @ 19 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16123687 < Sold 1 @ 19 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15994851 < Sold 5 in last week @ 19 keys each
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16016664 < Sold @ 19 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15871453 < Sold @ 19 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/backpack/15928 < Sold a handful @ 19 keys each
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12796813 < Been Offered 19 keys / 19 keys + s tomislav / 20 keys in mixed overpay.
Again too lazy to look anymore, those proofs are from the first 2 pages, if someone wants to follow up feel free. on browsing up to 4 pages on outpost i came across 70+ sales threads selling earbuds for 19 keys or more, whilst i only came up with 15 threads selling for over 18.5 and under 19 keys.
For all the people who take a glance at the classifieds without actually looking. There are 36 people on classifieds selling for under 19 keys and there are over 100 people selling for 19 keys or over.
All in all I don't disagree with the price, there are some people selling for 18 keys + 3 ref, but there are many more selling for 19 keys or more. In my opinion 18.5 keys is a Quick sale price and shouldn't been taking into account for a currency price vote as of yet. If more appear selling @ 18.5 keys sure, but as of right now 19 keys is the going rate for a bud to key sell rate and seems to be dominating the market.
Too soon to lower bud price to incorporate minority 18.5 key sales, Down vote from me!
Thanks for taking the time to read, if someone would like to improve on my proof they may, as I am lazy today and have better things to do. =]
All links below are a fresh search done in the last hour. None of them was posted using Trade.tf
Anyway, there are 3 1/2 pages of sellers (44 sale notifications) trying to sell their earbuds from 18-18.5 keys. (http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/51fffababa2536b875000004/3)
Outpost:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16101155 - 3 days - 18.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16153657 - Today - 18.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16130720 - 2 days - Price reduced to 18
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16157220 - 1 day - 18.6
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14296366 - 1 day - 18.4
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16152699 - 2 days - 18.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16041152 - 2 days - 18.8
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13168732 - Seasoned Flipper
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15644415 - Seasoned Flipper
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16144380 - 2 days - 18.2
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16138976 - 1 day - 18.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15946735 - Seasoned Flipper - 18 keys
This was just on the first two pages of outpost ( page set to show only 20 trades per page). The rest were 19-21 key dreamers.
95% of the traders in the posts above have more then 3-4 earbuds for sale and some even have 15-20 for sale at that price.
My advice to people who would like to buy a bud is to post a trade offering 18 keys for a bud. You would be a proud owner of a bud within few hours.
PS: I only flip buds so increase or decrease in price has no effect on me. So this is not a biased opinion in however manner.
No i don't write useless blogs, I just have better things to do, evidently you don't.
"This was just on the first two pages of outpost. The rest were 19-21 key dreamers.
95% of the traders in the posts above have more then 3-4 earbuds for sale and some even have 15-20 for sale at that price."
And what is your point? You have provided less proof then me. The rest aren't 19 -21 key dreamers, hate to break it to you but buds sell @ 19 keys fairly easily, i mean, yesterday i sold about 5. today i have already sold 2 @ 19 keys, so no i don't think 19 keys is a dream at all. 18.5 keys sell? yep, quickly.
Does 19 keys still sell? Absolutely, look at my own sale proof.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13762503 < You are buying buds at 17 keys, hmm interesting.
Not to mention the only offers you have received on your quick sell thread are 19 key offers, no 18.5 or 17 offers?
Term of a flipper/quickbuyer, "To buy things at a low price and sell at a higher price", the number 1 benefit to someone flipping is to make a smaller investment on flip items, you just want buds to lower to make your daily and in my opinion shady job easier!
First results on search for earbuds: http://i.imgur.com/quwfOWV.png
Scroll down more and there were 2 sellers at 18 keys + 5 ref whilst 8 - 10 at 19 keys or above.
Hey look it's impossible to sell buds for 19 keys, well this guy must be a wizard, he's doing it at 20: http://i.imgur.com/th3IsTe.png
Wish you the best on that one.
First of all I reduced my buying price to 17 because I had too many people tring to sell me buds for 18 keys and it was hard to sell them at that volume. If I buy 10 buds a day and I am unable to sell them at the same pace at 18.5, it's not worth the trouble for me. So do not be troubled with what I do. I have not even posted how many buds I have bought or sold. My trade clearly asks to post only if offering a different price, hence few offers. *facepalm*. So stay away from things you do not know.
And seriously is it too hard to comprehend? Out of 40 links, 14 links were sellers between 18-18.5 keys with a cumulative sum of atleast 30-40 buds. The rest were 19-20 key sellers, more or less in an ratio of 70/30%.
This suggestion here is only to reflect that yes while 19 keys is what people aim for 18.5 key also happens with extreme quicksells at 18 keys.( really quicksell???? )
And lol to make my daily, aha ha ha ha hah aha h. I can easily buy them for 18 keys, in whatever number you want. There is even a seller selling 50+ buds at 18 keys each. If you like I can get you a shit ton of them at 18 keys too provided there is a midlleman involved; for me to be assured that you will buy them from me. Again lol, my daily.
"If you like I can get you a shit ton of them at 18 keys too provided there is a midlleman involved; for me to be assured that you will buy them from me."
It's apparently so easy to sell them at 18.5, why do you need reassurance?
Hence I'm too lazy to deal with people like you, out to make a profit and nothing more, Goodbye my quickbuying friend.
Reassurance? *facepalm*. You still did not understand do you?
Let me write in more clear words - forget about what I feel or do - the suggester has shown us links and has written his argument to support his suggestion. In your links you stressed that 18.5 keys is a quick sell and it should not be included in the range. However 44 posts on backpack.tf classified @ 18.5 keys and a ton of them available at outpost for 18.5 keys disagrees with you.
Do not worry what trade practice I follow, I am not here to give away my cards, and focus on the proof/ counter-proof.
In my links i stressed 19 keys is very doable, and that 18.5 and lower is quicksell price, that there should be more proof to include it in a currency vote. If you read my post you would see I actually agree with the posters price suggestion, but state that there isn't enough counter proof and provided some, and that there should be more solid proof instead of first page classifieds, even you just referred to the classifieds as a good source of proof, how is it a good souce of proof if there is 30 - 40 selling at 18.5 and 100+ at 19 or above? This just shows that more people are willing to sell their buds at a higher rate than lower, out of that 40 on classifieds, about a third are people actually selling at close to 19 keys, eg: 18.7, 18.8, 18.9 keys. so out of 140 classifieds a solid 20 are selling for 18.5, the rest more, lets sum it up.
Classifieds: 15% are selling for 18.5 keys
Classifieds: 85% are selling for 19 or more.
From a 4 page search on outpost: 75 selling for 19 keys or higher, 20 at 18.5 or lower.
Outpost: 21% Selling for 18.5 keys
Outpost: 79% Selling for 19 keys or more.
Ofc outpost proof needs to be delved into much more, but instead of trying to contradict me at every turn do exactly as you claim to do, either agree or disagree with the suggestion and provide some proof to back it up, that's all.
I'm not trying to do anything other than show that buds are not a hard sell like some people claim, if i can manage to sell 17 or so over 3-4 days, you can too,
I consider 18.5 to be a valid range when close to 50% are being sold at this price, not 20 - 25 %.
You are awesome man!
>minority 18.5 key sales
(lels internally)
Also let me make this clear to you since I don't think you understand. Perhaps many people are trying to sell at 19 keys+, but the sales that actually happen at 18.5 are just as much as ones that happen at 19.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16110513 not sold, check history
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15398678 2 week old offer
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13984828 1 week old offer, unsure if buyers are offering $ or keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16119685 not sold, check history
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15871453 not sold, check history
http://www.tf2outpost.com/backpack/15928 how do you even know he sold any? http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16118765 has sold none
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12796813 1 week old offers
You have 10 trades open on Outpost selling buds for 19 keys and you've been taking mixed offers. Doesn't that show you are a little bit desperate to sell them?
Not desperate at all, out of the 17 or so buds I have sold, I accepted 2 mixed offers which = more than 21 keys each, purely because i liked the items being offered.
I have 10 trades open on outpost because it is how I prefer to do my currency trades as it gains more coverage, this has nothing to do with desperation i assure you.
"http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16119685 not sold, check history
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15871453 not sold, check history"
As for these guys, waiting to add to confirm, but i do the same, list 1 or a couple buds and then sell off random other ones, doesn't necessarily mean buds have not been sold in that trade!
"http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16110513 not sold, check history"
yep? One has clearly been sold: http://i.imgur.com/ihZfKqK.png%5C
"http://www.tf2outpost.com/backpack/15928 how do you even know he sold any? http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16118765 has sold none"
As for that guy, i added him, he had his trade up for 2 days and did sell a pair of buds for 19 keys even though he stated "I have been away and inactive and missed a few adds".
http://i.imgur.com/Jja33S1.png < 21 buds sold @ 19 keys in last week, I could sure use some of your proofs. :3
With a currency down vote it very much relies on what people are selling for as much as what people are buying for, if something is priced, and you are seeking proof on a cheaper price, make no mistake sold proof will be easier to find as everyone buys something when it's cheaper. In this case selling proof is just as vital, it shows what a majority of the market value their earbuds at and what they are prepared to sell them at, an 18.5 suggestion now is the same old crap which down arrow scares people into thinking they need to sell their buds as they are dropping in price, when realistically a MAJORITY of people are selling higher than 18.5 keys. needs more time to see if people are happy with the 19 range, or more people start/continue selling at discounted rates. This ensures that people are actually selling at a discounted rate because they value the item at this price instead of outside influences like a backpack.tf down vote.
I still don't 100% disagree with your suggestion, I just think there needs to be more time/proof imo.
For heaven's sake even at 18.5 keys, it is taking people 1-2 days to get rid of them.
Trying to explain to you stuff is like "Playing the flute to a buffalo". I give up.
You've played the flute to a buffalo?
So what you're trying to say is, if buds take 1 - 2 days to sell the price should be lowered?
Would have expected as much from a Quickseller/Buyer!
I am sorry I can't sympathize that it is taking people 1-2 days to sell buds at 18.5, i am selling around 5 buds each day @ 19 keys, with minor attention, just waiting on adds. So although you have experienced this, I have not. Therefore do not expect me to agree with it. As i said before there is no need for you to throw around condescending remarks just because you disagree with my opinion, i am simply providing my opinion and proofs, you need only do the same, in the end if the proof leans more to either side this vote will have an outcome that pertains to that proof.
Stop trying to convince me, convince these other non flute playing folk. ;)
Upvote by me. Also, in scrap.tf
people are selling for 17 keys and buying for 18.8 keys
There are many buds left and its slowly (1 per day) decreasing. Sooo 18 keys - 19 keys is feasible for the buds. But the range you provided is okay. Not too bad
Some nice proof, upvote.
Classifieds filled with 18.5, upvooooooooote!
Gud Proof. Upvote
classified first page, most of it are 18.5 keys ish:3 upvote for me
sigh buds crashing again
You call a quarter key drop in price "crashing"?
i'm going to get massively downvoted and warned by a mod for saying this, but bp.tf has affected tf2 trading to the extent that any drop in prices is going to cause panic sellers to quickly get rid of their stock, and when that happens, another vote is going to happen.
Mods already have acknowledged that by implementing the cooldown rules.
tf2finance says ~18.3 keys and classifields are filled with under 19 key sellers. Upvote.
Selling for 18 keys + 1 Ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16141545
Upvote
This is my experience, gonna stay neutral. Good luck with this mess.
I sold two the other day at 19.
I bought those two at 18 keys
I rejected offers from sellers and buyers for 18.5 keys
Cheers
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16129124 i see no offers on your trade.maybe somewhere else can you link me?
The link you show is the third bud I bought for 18 keys yesterday.
When I was buying buds for 18 keys, was offered to buy for 18.5 and rejected in discussion. When I was selling my buds for 19, I was offered to sell for 18-18.5 and rejected in discussion.
I stick to my buying price of 18 and selling price of 19. Again, I am staying neutral on this vote for obvious reasons.
Well i thought bud was going back up -_- again it has started going down
Started to go down? One drop doesn't necessary has to be a "crash" or a emagherd buds are going to keep falling. It's just the red arrow that tricks people into think this.
But they do crash because a majority thinks like that, if this vote passes, i assure you they will crash with the red arrow of doom. xP
Maybe this pic can help? http://puu.sh/5B6nd.png sold for 19 keys
Yeah, it shows that 19 is still possible.^^
not saying I'm up voting or down voting but when you go on outpost most people are trying to still scam you with buds for 28 keys each XD now thats just sad
That's not scamming. That's highballing at most, they just sell for the highest price earbuds were in the last few months.
Earbuds haven't been 28 keys since March.
>few months
Oh right, I keep forgetting that 9 months is only a few months, not like you could have a baby in that time period or anything.
>baby > perioud, I see what you did....ah whatever, time runs by quick :S
Especially when your days are 31 hours long, eh Woifi?
I would really like if days could have 32 hours instead of 24. :S (But now stay on topic.^^)
Cleverpun is coming for you.
i didn't say sold i said they are selling them for 28 keys but don't get any buyers
Here we go again...
To be honest, your proof is really good, so i guess I'll upgoat :P
ill upgoat too :D
So what happened? Did people lose faith or did lasts suggestion pass too quickly?
Upvote.
Last suggestion passed too quickly, the hype-train had not crashed yet.
Many of the cheap Buds are duped.I never buy this dupes Shit.When i need Buds,i buy not duped and pay lovely the 19 Keys.....
agreed, I buy buds for 19 keys. That price is fair to me. I think people are just trying to profit from this downvote.
just bought a pair of buds for 17 keys upvoted
Some nice proof you got there.
~
Upgoat.
Seen a lot for 18.3 or lower. your proof is good, defentily upboat!
Oh, I'm late to the party... well here's my proof:
SELLERS for under 19 (unlabeled = 18.5)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16109585 18.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16105168 18
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16104526 18.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16104294 18
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16103772 18.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16103115 18.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16102417 18
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16101139 18.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16098529 18.5
http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9919758 18.66
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16097332 18.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16096361 18
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16095554 18.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16095357 18
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16091278 18
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16089887 18.8
http://bazaar.tf/trade/561583 17
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16088750 18.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16088508 18
http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9919087 18
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16087078 18.6
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16087036 18
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16087025 17.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16085286 18.5
http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9918895 18
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16081468 18.8
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16081163 18
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16080860 18.6
http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9918832 18
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16078501 18.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16078244 18
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16077049 18.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16076962 18.12
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16075731 18.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16073552 18.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16073155 18
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16072834 sold 6 at 18.12
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16071849 18.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16070852 18.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16070615 18.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16070407 18
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16069330 18.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16067240 18.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16066129 18.8
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16064704 sold for for 18.8
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16064643 18
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16062927 18.5
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16062379 18
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16061832 ***15*** xD
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16061710 18
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16059223 18.3
http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/51fffc244bd7b8440d000007
http://tf2finance.com/ <-- average of 18.5 on finance.
18 - 19 better
Keep in mind that the cooldown rules are still in effect: http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/4347-a-cooldown-rule-is-in-effect-for-earbuds-until-further-notice-updated-nov-18/
I don't want buds to lower again...but good proof
Upvote