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Here we are looking at a Searing Plasma Villain's Veil. I've owned this misc twice and I submitted the last accepted suggestion (9 months ago :P) This needs a desperate price bump.


Note: I am interested in this hat, and my offer is clearly stated. The seller has accepted and I am waiting for him to come online to make the trade, so this may get updated to say that I own one.


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9 (10 incl. 1 dupe) of these exist. Out of these, 6-7 are not being factored it.


There are 2 Level 53 with different Original IDs, but one's owner has been offline for over 2 years.

There are 2 Level 54 with different Original IDs, but one's owner is banned from OP and has not sold it in over a year.

Level 14 is gifted

Level 79 is duped

Level 7 has not been traded in 2+ years

Level 66 has not been traded in 1+ years


So 7 won't be factored in considering their sales are way outdated or not clean and not pertinent.


That leaves us with:


Level 53

Level 54

Level 92


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Level 92:


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14894077


Offered 6 Buds, seems to have sold for that


Check the backpack histories on Oct. 14th.


Almost a 2 month old sale.


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15388468


~3 Weeks ago. Offered 7.5, probably what it sold for.


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This level 53 Veil is tricky...


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15764258


Sold for 8 Buds to Mr. Jolly.


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15850504


Mr. Jolly then sells it to Gravejam for Misty MYB (5.5), Orbit fire Veil (3.7), Burning Bombing Run (2.7)


9-10 depending on overpay


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16000396


Gravejam then sells it back. He offered his veil for Jolly's Misty skull and DBD Yellow belts.

Item histories match up:

http://backpack.tf/item/1250710192 (5.5)

http://backpack.tf/item/2010680271 (6.2)


This would value the veil at 10-10.5 with overpay, not sure if something else was added however.


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16171800


Been one day and already offered 7, Kill-a-watt antlers (8?) as well as my 8.5 offer which he has accepted.


tl;dr on Level 53:

8 Pure

9-10 in Unusuals

10-10.5 in Unusuals

8.5 Pure


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Level 54:


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13877169


Sold for 125 Keys + minor sweets, which was 6 Buds 3.5 months ago.


Pretty dated sale, but I included it nonetheless


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There is everything relevant imo.


So what we have is:


6 Pure x2 (one 2 months old, one 3 months)

7.5 Pure (3 weeks)

8 Pure (2 weeks)

8.5 Pure (Today)

10 in Unusuals x2 (one 1 week, one 2 days ago)


Personally, this leads me to believe the range would be 7.5-8.5 considering the bulk of RECENT pure sales are within that range. The 6 pures are old and I believe the unusual sales are outliers.


Even if you disagree with my range, this price does need to be updated. Please tell me your thoughts in the comments and maybe I can mess around with the range a bit if it seems like it needs it.


Thanks so much!


    Your suggestion seems pretty solid, I'll upvote

      Level 92:


      Sale #1:


      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14894077 - Sold in less than 6 days (quicksell)


      Sale #2:


      http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15388468 - Sold in 8 days (quicksell)


      Level 53:


      Sale #1:


      Misty Master's Belt original price is 5 - 6, ~5 after overpay

      Orb. Fire Veil original price is 3.5 - 4, ~3.4 after overpay

      Burning Bombing Run original price is 3.1 - 3.5, ~3 after overpay


      Total Sale: ~11.4


      Sale #2:


      Misty Master's Belt original price is 5 - 6, ~5 after overpay

      DBD Master's Belt original price is 6 - 7, ~5.8 after overpay


      Total Sale: ~10.8


      Sale #3:


      Sold for 8.5 pure

      Was offered Kill a Watt Antlers, unpriced but probably pretty high

      He got this offer in 1 day so it also can be a sort of quicksell


      Total Sale: ~8.5


      Level 54:


      Sale #1:


      Old Sale, took 1 day (quicksell and irrelevant)


      Total Sale: ~6 buds actually


      Conclusion:

      Your Sales are: ~6, ~6, ~7.5, ~8.5, ~10.8, ~11.4

      Your 3 lowest sales (6, 6 and 7.5) are OBVIOUS quicksells, took no time to sell and much much lower than everything else, including recent offers

      I'd say it needs a higher jump, because even your offer is quiestionable about quicksell or not, you offered 8.5 the day he opened his trade, if it's sold soon it will be pretty fast for such an unusual

        Very true. Those did sell very quickly. I didn't even recognize that, so thank you for pointing that out.

          But to play Devil's advocate, and maybe someone could weigh in, are those technically considered quicksells? I don't believe any of them had a buyout listed in the trade notes. So isn't more of a case of seller's selling their item quickly, and not buyers buying an item quickly.


          I'm not even sure what the difference is exactly or if there even is one. Maybe I'm just going crazy...

        Better than current. Price can be refined further with future sales