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A currency suggestion that's not from Pyroman or KoDorin? Downvote!
It's been three days.
It's time
Teh cooldown rule: [url]http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/4347-a-cooldown-rule-is-in-effect-for-earbuds-until-further-notice-updated-nov-18/[/url]
It's 0.75 keys, so I can make a suggestion 3 days after the last one was accepted
I'm not doing my standard format, because that would take too much fucking time.
Closed = Sold, benefit of the doubt
Definition of quicksell: Consistently takes under an hour to sell at a given price
Plentee of below current range (some babies):
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16226355[/url] - 17.5
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16225918[/url] - 18
[url]http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9927893[/url] - 18
[url]http://bazaar.tf/trade/570725[/url] - 17.5
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16223369[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16223177[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16218846[/url] - 18.3
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16218482[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16213226[/url] - 17 (Quicksell)
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16211549[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16210934[/url] - 17.2, still took ~5 hours to sell
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16210375[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16210126[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16208414[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16207668[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16207427[/url] - 18
[url]http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9926663[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16204332[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16204036[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16202673[/url] - 18.3
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16200709[/url] - 17
[url]http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9926204[/url] - 18
[url]http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9926209[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16197839[/url] - 18
[url]http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9926022[/url] - 17
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16188100[/url] - 18
[url]http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9925939[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16195323[/url] - 16 sold in 3 min
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16194621[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16193245[/url] - 18 took just over an hour
[url]http://bazaar.tf/trade/568418[/url] - Calculating overpay, 17.4
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16191572[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16190187[/url] - 18, toook a bit under a day
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16188771[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16188701[/url] - 17.5, took 2 mins over an hour
[url]http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9925515[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13168732[/url] - 18 BOT
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16188197[/url] - 17
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16187965[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16187728[/url] - 18, blind polar bear
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16185378[/url] - 17.5
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16184788[/url] - 17
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16184876[/url] - 18, added in ~12 hours
[url]http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9925079[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15991530[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16160959[/url] - 18
Unsolds @ 18.5 - 19 keys:
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16070042[/url] - 1 week
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15829114[/url] - 2 weeks
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16172647[/url] - 2 days
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16102290[/url] - 5 days
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16200363[/url] - 1 day
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16170417[/url] - 2 days
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16133837[/url] - 4 days
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16123144[/url] - 5 days
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16043961[/url] - 1 week
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16197336[/url] - 1 day
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16087521[/url] - 6 days
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16201719[/url] - 1 day
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16123687[/url] - 5 days
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15829114[/url] - 2 weeks
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16149539[/url] - 3 days
In conclusion:
Weak unsolds, I know. I'll be back soon with better ones. Anyways:
<17 keys: Total quicksell
17 keys: Often quicksell, can take some time
17.5 keys: Sells too fast to be in the range
18 keys: So commonly traded, it should be the soul price. It sells moderately fast, but it's so common it should be the new price point.
What to comment:
Helpful constructive criticism
Compliments
If any two links are the same
Reasonable evidence/counterproof
What not to comment:
Criticism that is not helpful, i.e. "Bad proof, downvote"
I am still new to price suggestions and I understand that maybe some aspects are not up to par with some other Pricing Connoisseur's so be helpful so I can hopefully do better in future suggestions.
Thank you for reading, and I wish you a very happy trading.
Good proof, upvote ;D
My threads for <18keys
6x 17.5 each - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16181705
5x 17.5 each - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16186141
1x 17.5 - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16186013
Above 18keys is really hard to sell. Upvote for 18keys.
Extra proofs from me!
Summor sellers:
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13187390[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16235843[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16235756[/url] - 18
[url]http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9928629[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16233008[/url] - 17.5
[url]http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9928373[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16230489[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16230476[/url] - 18
[url]http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9928279[/url] - 17.8
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16230233[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16228194[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16227600[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16226635[/url] - 18, 2 hours sold
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16226355[/url] - 17.5, 2 hours sold
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16225918[/url] - 18
[url]http://bazaar.tf/trade/570725[/url] - 17.5, 2 hours sold
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16225006[/url] - 17.2, instasold
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16223369[/url] - 18, 2 hours sold
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16229365[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16171672[/url] - 18.2
Summor unsolds:
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16043056[/url] - 1 week
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15868270[/url] - Add in 1 week
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16043581[/url] - 1 week
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16130565[/url] - 5 days
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16127561[/url] - 5 days
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16123687[/url] - 5 days
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16129066[/url] - 5 days
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16167097[/url] - 3 days
Yes! I stopped the 5 day streak!
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16177766[/url] - 2 days
I'm planning on doing another ~30 links every 5 hours or so until this gets accepted/closed
I'm getting impatient. Sphee.
Sellers:
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16238677[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16238201[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16238156[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16237914[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16237963[/url] - 18
[url]http://bazaar.tf/trade/571606[/url] - 18 BOT
97 links total so far.
Just sum sellers in the last 2 hours
Let's roll out sum links
Selling:
[url]http://bazaar.tf/trade/571979[/url] - 18.2
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16241700[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16241677[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16240512[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16240244[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16239962[/url] - 18, a bit over an hour
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16239671[/url] - 18, selling multiple
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16239508[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16238677[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16238201[/url] - 18, 01:18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16242332[/url] - super duper baby 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16229365[/url] - 18
Unsold:
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15985924[/url] - 1 week
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16161841[/url] - 3 days
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16117833[/url] - 5 days
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16175114[/url] - 2 days
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16164081[/url] - 3 days
114 links so far.
Selling:
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16245501[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16245181[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16244775[/url] - 17
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16244226[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16243579[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16243302[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16242466[/url] - 18
up to 121
18 key brothers :D
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16246894[/url]
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16245181[/url]
123
Imma back-a
Selling:
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16255033[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16254910[/url] - 16.4 w/ overpay
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16254886[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16254189[/url] - ~18
[url]http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9929869[/url] - 17
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16253957[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16253938[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16253316[/url] - 17.5, add in 0:03
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16252900[/url] - 18
[url]http://bazaar.tf/trade/572816[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16252049[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16250195[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16249796[/url] - 17, 1 hour 17 mins
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16248791[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16248748[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16246894[/url] - 18
Sphee.
139
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16255033[/url] - 17.5
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16255835[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16256470[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16256691[/url] - 18
I wuvs extra proof :D
143 links total now
S-s-s-s-s-s-some more sellers
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16258055[/url] - 18
[url]http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9930347[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16260397[/url] - 17.5
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16262475[/url] - 17.8
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16263772[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16265186[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16265415[/url] - 18
Uno hundred and fifty so far
Must...add...moar...proof
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16265415[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16268715[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16269087[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16269316[/url] - 17.5
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16270097[/url] - 18
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16270328[/url] - 17.8
[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16270717[/url] - 18
Up to 156
Such a great currency suggestion! Also, I see many has supported and showed you more sellers for 18 keys. Excellent proofs. Good job mate.
~
Up Up vote!
Well can't argue with that proof.
Upvote.
Your wall of proof (including links posted later) is an absolute killer. Good work.
lol ppl add me to buy there buds for 17 keys.
That cool down rule is embarissing for bp.tf status.
I have been waiting for this suggestion for a while. So many have been listed for 18 the last week
yes, I was thinking of doing one of these myself maybe my first passed suggestion, but I was not familiar with the cooldown timing
Currency suggestions are difficult, especially for first suggestions. I wish you good luck if you try in future :) Remember you need a metric fuck-ton of proof.
thanks :D I will take this into consideration
good proof ... but will rise as hell when Naughty Winter key come
Actually, buds tend to drop during events. For example how they went down to about 16 Keys at Halloween. Reason is many people try and sell their buds for keys to unbox, buy event keys or sell on the steam market for the sales/festive keys from the store.
wait few weeks and you will see if rise or not .. it is happen like last year
Look at the graph for buds last year. They dropped in mid-late December because the Mecha update happened on the 20th.
tf2 finance : 17.86
http://tf2finance.com/
Got down to 17.7
I can't sell mine even for 18 keys, damn!
Just sold them
I was just about to do this XP Upgoated :)
No choice, upvote.
I can't understand why they went up in the first place!
Upvote. Here's one for 17.5: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16237444 that's been unsold for a few hours.
i own 5 buds and i love for it to go back up but the proof is too much ;-; must …. upvote
Good job, I appreciate you taking the leap of faith into a currency sug ^^ it paid off
Great, upvote for me. I've also been spying a lot of 18's.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15971425
Mine actually took a while to sell at 18 keys ended up selling for 17.5 and that took half a day. upvote!
I would like to accept this, but other mods are convinced that our site affects the price of buds too much and that a one week cooldown is needed to avoid market panic.
I think not reporting an accurate price will quickly remove any influence we have on the market (i.e. reduced traffic to the site) so if that's their goal, they're probably well on their way.
The problem is: The site has a big influence. I was able to sell s. scorch shots quite frequently at 5 ref each and even bumped the price up to 6 ref. When I checked next the price was set at 3-3.33 ref and tons of 3 ref sellers were out there making it impossible to keep my price up.
I don't really want to blame you for wanting to be as accurate as possible. But you guys accepted the suggestion that fast it was impossible for me to provide counterproof and I'm sure the provided proof was only a low percentage of the trades that were really made.
It is true that if you keep the suggestion open for 1-2 days on new items the suggestion isn't accurate anymore. The only solution I'd have is to not allow price suggestions on too new items.
But I guess that leads too far into offtopic. Just wanted to give you a heads up as the occasion was quite fitting.
the faster an item is priced the worse fo trading them. At least u sold a few at this price. Soon there will be ~50000 s. scorch`s in game and they`ll possibly drop below s. detonator.
The 1 week cooldown is only valid for .25 keys in a difference; hence why my suggestion fro 18.5-19 was closed.
gg mods, when it's about rising price of buds, you accepting 3 suggestion in 24 hours, you even ready to change (oh, sorry, "interpret" http://backpack.tf/vote/id/528a3e124cd7b878018b4569#528a46bf4dd7b823478b4568_row whatever you want) rules. And now you changing rules again just to freeze price drop. No offense, Puddington, but it's lookslike corruption
that would be embrissing for bp.tf status.
if you start now defending buds instead price accuracy
in my opinion tf2finance does better job on monitoring buds prices than this site.
after all when it comes to currency you need live prices and not 1 week old.
lol if you do that guys you are losing everything you have been fighting for 2 years now.
I just entered tf2outpost and saw this http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16260229
It could have a lower range
I loved it went down to 16, rose to like 19 in 2 weeks, and now its going down again.
No. downvote. stop destabilizing the economy
totes a valid reason
I hate that i'm doing this.. upvote.
Earbuds must keep rising, it is an exclusivity, lt can't just be down voted because some idiots just want to buy it for a cheaper price. Earbuds is something we use to buy unusuals, think about it, if earbuds keep dropping, your unusuals will keep dropping as well. STOP DOWN VOTING EARBUDS!
Unusuals inversely adjust according to a rise or fall in earbud price. If this suggestion is passed, unusual prices in buds will go up rather than down.
only the cheap bastards make buds cheaper.
A currency suggestion that's not from Pyroman or KoDorin? Downvote!
Really? pfft I love it when other people make suggestions for currency other than Pyroman (Not dissing pyroman, I'm just saying that he is the only person that mainly does these types of suggestions)
Typical price manipulation aftermath: first they hype buds prices (18-20keys was BS, 20 key was almost impossible at that time), so people bought buds speculating that someone will keep artificially raising them till they peaked 24keys(just as they did with the 20keys high end) ,then people realized they've been fooled so they started getting rid of buds..
Also, its christmas. People are selling buds for keys, which they will unbox the new crates with.
uh
20 was easy to sell at after halloween was over lol
Upvote, took me a while to sell mine for even 17+2 ref! (sold 2) 19 keys is completely impossible
I am so bloody tired of Buds being so messed up continously...
yea, this is getting really annoying. just pick a value and fucking leave it already or give it a range since it's just fluctuating a bunch
Sir, it is not backpack.tf that is fluctuating the price of buds it is the buyers. Buyers don't tend to buy at high prices thus, sellers are forced to sell at low. Sometimes, buyers do tend to buy at high prices then sellers starts to sell at high price, therefore the price of buds keep fluctuating. In my opinion, I do think that 17-18 key per bud seems to be the average price because the price keeps coming back to this range.
then just leave it there and call it even. mission accomplished
THE PROOF! MY EYES ARE MELTING!
Holy shit. What a wall of proofs. It took me around 1 hour to check all :D
Mostly are OK, now upvote :>
Additional proof, not already added:
Selling for 17.5 keys:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15849968
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16244128
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16277967
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16196118
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15991530 (in suggestor's proof as 18 keys, lowered price)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16211174 (18 keys regular, 17.5 keys in bulk)
Selling for below 18 keys:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14296366 17 keys and 4 refined
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16260229 17 keys and 4 refined (trade owner posted link on suggestion)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16238156 17 keys and 4 refined (in suggestor's proof as 18 keys, lowered price)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16260492 17 keys and 5 refined
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16277748 17 keys and 5 refined
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16211094 17 keys and 5 refined
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16255835 17 keys and 5 refined (in suggestor's proof as 18 keys, lowered price)
Buds up, buds down, buds up, buds down. Wtf is happening?
Normal cooldown rules are still in effect: http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/4347-a-cooldown-rule-is-in-effect-for-earbuds-until-further-notice-updated-nov-18/