Suggestion: Burning Flames Hotrod at 190.4–207.33 keys

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~225 keys

burning

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Resuggesting as Recommended by Woifi

Proof below. Overpay calculated. Original prices used

Sales

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15294176 - Anti-Freeze Grimm + Burning Ketche = 9.8 buds

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15052028 - Burning Rack = 8.2 buds (outlier)

http://backpack.tf/id/76561197981236339?time=1386316800 ---> http://backpack.tf/id/76561197981236339?time=1386489600

Misty Jefe = 9 buds

Conclusion

Got 3 sales, updating this 6 months old price. Vote accordingly.

Help / Constructive Criticism / Additional Proof / Counter-Proof is ALWAYS welcome! >;3

Burning rack is 8 pure for a clean one, otherwise it's good

http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/4350-new-rule-use-original-suggested-values-of-unusuals/

It's 8.8-9.4, so 9.1 average *0.9 for overpay = ~8.2

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16231352

My favorite hat :)

Price of the misty jefe is completely outdated tho, its honestly more than 9 buds, judging by its offers on outpost.

You cant apply overpay without any sort of proof that the hotrod was offered on the Jefe tho, so that piece of proof needs to be at the very least adjusted tho.

Other than the jefe being outdated and receiving much higher offers on outpost, the Grimm is also somewhat outdated at 4 months, it HAS received an offer of burning Grimm+2 but unfortunately there arent enough sales to back it up, still tho, so taking it at 7.5 is eh. even if thats legitimate, its really only 1 sale atm, and the hotrod was also offered 270$ ~ 9 buds pure recently to a guy who was cashing out.

(Sorry, ran out of room to respond)

Proof of that offer, thanks?

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14458666

That if you mean the Grimm

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12281204

Cash offers for HR on this one.

No notable cash offers it seems (most is 260 usd = 7.3 buds using bp.tf), and I dont see anywhere where someone offered the Static Wraith + P. Fetti Slug. Even if they did, it becomes 9.6 buds (you gotta use mid price x 0.9 to calculate overpay) which fits well in my range.

Your argument is invalid my friend

Even tho its the rules, I feel it is unfair to put the ketche and grimm offer together as 9.8 buds, which is practically the price of JUST the grimm on the site atm.

I dont think the Jefe proof can be put at a flat 9 buds either, as i mentioned before.

Prove the Jefe should be more too, thanks. And opinions dont matter :/

I know :C

Still.

Anyways for the Jefe, overpay cannot be calculated as it is uncertain which side made the offering. Overpay can work either way for all we know. So even by the outdated price, the Jefe sale should count as 10 buds.

I also don't think the Jefe should be at 10 buds either, as it is oudated and received several better offers here:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15160262

and here

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15160262

IE miami drills + scorching raincatcher + 10 keys in sweets.

Price for the jefe is 9-11 buds. So 10 buds middle *0.9 = 9 buds after overpay.

Well its unclear whoever offered right?

So its unsure which way the overpay should be applied, and therefore should just stay at 10.

If it's unclear then overpay should be always applied.

well i see where u are getting at it but , i think it with someone selling these things they can part with a few buds less its like in real life , have you ever scene pawn stars where the appraiser comes in and appraises it at say 100 bucks and they could off like 30 percent for profit.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15294176 also on that one he was discounting aswell

238 key isnt exactly discounting, it is :P

Plus he turned down a fetti slug\+ a static wraith ~10+?

hmm then idk he must of really liked that one offer

The Grimm+the Ketche, at CURRENT prices is over 13 buds, however backpack.tf now prices unusuals off ORIGINAL prices even if they were priced while buds were 25 keys. Still I don't think the Grimm deserves a 7-7.5 bud price in the suggestion, its gotten plenty of offers above that.

Show me counter-proof using proper (if you may call it that) value calculations, thanks

The offer of a static wraith + fetti slug, even at original prices is like 10.5, and he turned it down.

Would also argue for the case of the jefe, as overpay cannot be included in the calculation, and the Jefe is much outdated, as well as havin recieved much higher offers on OP

Last price on the hotrod is 9-10 buds btw, so this is rather a reconfirm.