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Hi.
Strange Overdose
Offers :
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16276453 offered 0.66 ref and 0.77 ref but no idea how much sold for
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16309913 in comment said want 1 ref but does he/she sold for 1 ref?
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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15792135 Offers on this trade :
0.66 ref 11 offers
0.77 ref 1 offer
1 ref 1 offer
Strange bonk for overdose
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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16314426 0.88 ref offered
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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14454509 afew people said added for overdose also a user seems offered strange heatmaker for overdose
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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16306040 rejected offer at 0.66 ref and user said will go for 0.77 too but owner seems want 0.77+1 wep
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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16295069 0.77 ref offered
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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16311630 offered 0.66 ref but seems rejected ?
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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16198231 offered 0.66 ref rejected also the other user said will buy for 0.88 ref
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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16195987 3 people in a row offered 0.66 ref for overdose
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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16325127 rejcted my offer at 0.66 ref :'(
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http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16331249 rejected offer at 0.66 ref
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Buyers:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16316603 bp.tf price
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16304282 0.66 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16303660 1 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16300759 0.66 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16293694 0.66-1 ref in item
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16283726 0.77 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16283492 0.66 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16347179 1 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16344517 1 ref in item
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16336030 0.66 ref Quickbuyer?
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16332691 1 ref?
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16321301 0.77 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16317994 0.66 ref in item
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16316603 bp.tf price
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16354697 0.66 ref
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Sold :
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16298075 1 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16331236 1 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16322771 1 ref
http://prntscr.com/29v1j9 0.88 ref his/her bp http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198066494102
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16309921 1 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16259411 1 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16273916 0.88 ref
http://bazaar.tf/trade/570186 1 ref
http://prntscr.com/2ak6fo 1 ref
http://prntscr.com/2ak6k9 1 ref
http://prntscr.com/2ak6r0 1 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16322236 1 ref?
http://bazaar.tf/trade/578003 1 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16331037 1 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16279379 1 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16273916 0.88 ref
http://prntscr.com/29v0uw 1 ref his/her bp http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198083800515
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16279379 1 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16314616 1 ref was selling 2 check item history one of them sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16300309 0.88 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16253871 1.22 ref check item history also 0.66 ref rejected offer
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16312475 1 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16310088 1 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16308049 1 ref a user said added for overdose
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16307130#p48531946 0.77 ref also rejected offer at 0.66 ref which was mine :'(
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16334102 1.22 ref a user said added but the history tells some one else owns it
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16348711 1 ref
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16328871 was selling for 1 ref a user said add me
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16352801 1 ref
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and 2 QuickSell :
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16326735 0.77 ref sold within half of the day
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16331037 1 ref sold within 8 views and 6 hour http://prntscr.com/2ak7oq
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Check classified if you like :
http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/52011f694bd7b88105000006
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owns 132 downvotenice proof, upvotesold mine for 1 ref fast, upvote
too many proofs upgoat
I think, I'm staying neutral for now.
You're showing alot Proof of 1 Ref Solds but you're also proving that 0.66 is still possible because you can buy Overdoses at that price.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16298075 - didn't sell
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16322771 - didn't sell
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16322236 - didn't sell
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16279379 - is a duplicate (http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/517445 that guy had 2 Trades open)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16310088 - didn't sell
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16352801 - didn't sell
I only checked each's Item History.
I may be wrong but this proof is NOT correct.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16298075 -
didn't sellSold coz there is no strange overdose in his/her bphttp://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16322771 -
didn't sellSold check his/her bp dont have any morehttp://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16322236 -
didn't sellSold and user already removed from trade not any overodose strange currently in his/her bp.http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16279379 - is a duplicate (http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/517445 that guy had 2 Trades open)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16310088 -
didn't sellSold coz user already said that sold and i dont see any point that if he/she didnt sold yet write soldhttp://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16352801 -
didn't sellSold already removed from trade and not in his/her bpI only checked each's Item History.
I may be wrong but this proof is
NOTcorrect.some times history of items doesnt load and isnt always right like you see these for example and ill prefer you would be better if you check them bp instead of history.
by the way i forgot to say about this :
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16279379 - is a duplicate (http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/517445 that guy had 2 Trades open)[/b]I only linked one of the links not both of them[/b]
Oh.My.God. Seriously owning 132 of them?
Well, I only bought one from a cashing out trader for 0.66 only for about a week.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16045878
Upvote
i bought one for 3 robocrates, get rekd
Lucky guy. Got any proof though?
http://imgur.com/A5H9o1x
it's an outlier though, you obviously got lucky.. then probably sniped that .77 cause you knew you could resell for 1 ref pretty fast
Checked your bp history. YOU have bought all of your overdoses in the past 1month 131 of them. Which is 4 a day, at 0.66ref each...
ye start buying them when was 0.33-0.66 ref each bp.tf price and i was buying most of it in bulk at 0.66 ref when was 0.33-0.66 ref worth and check my bp history when was 0.66-1 ref i was trying to buy at 0.66 ref check how many i bought
well just as I wrote that comment you had 1new strange overdose therefore you are still succeeding in buying them for 0.66
oh ye forgot to say this as well that some of those overdose that in my bp i didnt actually buy them all as 0.66 ref i also bought some of them from sellers at around 0.77 ref and maybe 0.88 ref and the new overdose i own is from here http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16354670 bought at 0.77 ref
lol have some proof of solds at 1 ref bought 131 for 0.66... legit
i know when its will be accepted he will sell them all for 1 ref so low downvote caz u conter proof urself
i wil not sell them at all maybe will keep them all for afew more months and keep collecting them
Well the way it looks as of right now is 29 links proving 1 ref sales, 131 links (your history) proving .66 sales.
So...yeah...
You duplicate some of your link, anywho here's some from the link you provide
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16273916 - bought for 0.88
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16283726 - bought for 0.77 ( check his bp )
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16300309 - got an add within a day
Also according to your backpack history : http://backpack.tf/profiles/76561198081776882 , you seem to be buying overdose AT LEAST ONE a day which is a question mark for price manipulation :\
if u wonder why i own soo many overdose here http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15894510 thisguy is unboxing too much and had like a bulk of overdose and i bought them all also check my overdose history most of them has been bought from this guy and not sure if i bought overdose 0.66 ref 1 per day coz im using trade.tf for finding these stuff and as soon as they put up for sale i buy from them and honestly in this way i had to be really quick coz i missed alot at 0.66 ref which they gone less 5 minutes even
sellers :
http://prntscr.com/2aunjg
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16345316 trade made 16 hour ago and bumped 13 hour ago ( Sold )
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16344480 Sold with no bump at all
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16344424 17 hour old trade ( sold )
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16341591 with ni bump at all sold
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16341373 with no bump sold
they all gone within 1 day or less
link 1 was sold almost instantly => quicksell, link 2 was up for 4 days until he got one => hard to find sellers under 1 ref, link 3 is also a quick-ish sell
So two of your suggestions got accepted in the last 16 days, the last one was 4 days ago, do they raise in price really that fast?
Here's my trade from yesterday if it helps
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16337635
http://puu.sh/5LpnD.png
owns 132 gotta downvotenice proof tho, upvotea wonder that there are still some available, but there are
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16351199 0.77
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16344480 0.66
both of them gone too fast though
amount you have don't matter if you got proof, and you got nice proof so upvote
In case you were wondering, he would make $6.60 off of this suggestion (even going with midrange for .66-1 ref). At .66 per, he makes roughly $13.54 off of this suggestion. Not a reason to upvote or downvote, but something to be aware of. Staying neutral now.
and considering the last 2 suggestions were his alt because he didn't want to show how many he actually owned...
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16354697
this guy is buying overdose for 0.66 and got an add within 3 hours, there are still some people willing to sell for lower than 1 ref
under 1 ref going too fast mate and quickbuyers willing to buy for low end bp.tf price
I would like to start by saying that the proof is good, and I'll probably upvote it.
However,
There is obvious bias here, and frankly its obvious he is raising the price for his own gain. Everyone can try and sugarcoat it, but in reality, this is blatant price manipulation.
That is why I am also staying neutral
Can't say whether the OP is doing for his/her own benefit or not.
Provides good proof, bought over 100 before suggesting. It doesn't matter how good the proof is, the fact that he bought so many implies price manipulation.
Or the fact he's the one that's raised the price from an alt...using main to buy up all the ones to look like a quicksale and using alt to raise it with the proof. Gotta agree with the fishy manipulation appearance though and the neutrality.
i was collecting them for ages ago
as i said before u like the guys who ignore the proof and see how many they own
If someone owns 130+ of an item that they want to raise the price of, and have a history of trying to raise the price with alts, maybe you're being a price manipulator.
the reason why i used my other account is this check the other suggestions only got afew comments and most of them Upvote well im sure those proofs are pretty the same as this one but u know whats the different ? the different is when people see some one own items that they rising they think some thing else and im sure most of them ignore proofs at all
If your proof is good enough, most people would forgo the bias against your bias and upvote, if it was good enough. People value both proof and the amount of items you have. No one ignores proof outright. But, if you use alts to mask the fact that you have 130+ of an item you're trying to raise, that's price manipulation.
Isn't this like a Monopoly? I remember seeing this a few days ago, He had around 50 or less... It's good proof to say the least, But We can't have the Eco like this though >.<
The fact that he owns multiples of this item does not invalidate the incontrovertible proof provided. As a matter of fact, a trader that often deals with a suggested item is usually a more reliable source for a given item as he will be more adept at noticing market trends.
Also you probably never met offline.
All of that is true. Having an item you're trying to raise never, ever, ever invalidates irrefutable proof.
However,you must always consider:
a) the amount someone has of an item, (132 for example) and how much they're trying to change it by
b) in this case, the history of the price changer, and their past suggestions.
c) how much the suggester may or may not benefit if the change is accepted
d) the fucking proof. Never forgo the proof for someone having an item they're trying to raise.
I'm one of the group that is remaining neutral, because even though the change may be/is warranted (i.e, proof enough to raise the price), the history of the suggester is wrought with controversy.
Except he brought all of them recently, for .66, and is still buying them, for .66.
i didnt buy them all at 0.66 ref i payed 0.77 ref too and i bought most of them at 0.66 ref when price was 0.33-0.66 ref and also bought in bulk
The way how you make it sound like, you're basically jealous (picky wording here, don't know what else to say) of how much of an artificial raise in his bp even though he has a backpack more than 25 buds. (he even stated that he wasn't gonna sell it)
Have you thought maybe, just maybe, the reason why he suggested on his alt because knew he would get this kind of reaction like here? I personally wouldn't blame him with people calling him a manipulator.
#toetotoew/KoDoRiN.
1. I'm not jealous. If I was jealous, I would envy him, and want what he may/may not get. I don't want to artificially increase my bp value.
2. The amount of buds someone's backpack is worth doesn't change the fact that they're going to profit from the change. Don't believe for one second that he's not going to turn these around for a profit. Promise=/=guarantee.
3. And, the fact that he used alts, multiple times, to mask the fact that he owns 132 of something he wants to raise, makes him untruthful, reinforcing the idea that this suggestion(s) is based on bias and want of gain.
Although the architecture of the suggestion is good, it was built on gravel. Which is why I'm remaining neutral.
This is outrageous. You are remaining neutral because of the amount he owns and a virtual raise in his backpack if this gets passed? This is ridiculous...here's my supporting proof.
.66 quicksells
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16401740 - sold in an hour
1 ref sales
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16408365 - sold without a bump
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16404469 --> http://puu.sh/5NMs3.png
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16400989
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16396556 --> http://puu.sh/5NMEB.png
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16389085
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16386911
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16386049
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16371008
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16368892 --> http://puu.sh/5NMVp.png
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/1a/1ace333a3fb7b1c1a191c66ed82a7bcb3d0d3404430d346fdf042f95a6eb5486.jpg
why is this so popular? i remember when it was 1scrap
Because it is useful maybe?
dunno. i think that the stock wep and crossbow are better
Lol, inflation, upvote ~ great proof
hm...... i respect you sir. Not because of your suggestion, but because you have the balls to go up and suggest a price increase and have a mass amount of overdose's ready to be price boosted as well, and you STILL have very good proof.
Bravo, upvote.
his overdoses is his best counterproof, because he bought em all for 0,66 during last month =D
Sold my overdose for 1 ref in 10 minutes, upvote
actually I dont see a problem you having 130 of them (apart from showing buying under ref isnt difficult) but anyway .66 seems rather like a qs to me.
just saying 130 scrap is about 2.5 keys and there are tons of easier ways how to make 2 keys profit then buying an item and making suggestion. 2.5 keys guys. really a reason for a manipulation? I m just happy I m not so poor. GJ upvote
Actually he's gonna get a .33 profit for each, so a total of 7.5 keys... But the proof provided is solid enough for him to succeed in this business.
dont care what u think mate but when is 0.66-1 ref price is soo easy for me to sell for 1 ref and when price go 1 ref still doesnt have any change for me coz still easy to selll for 1 ref but how ever i already said im not gonna sell them
All I'm saying is that your suggestion is correct and the price looks like it needs to rise to 1 ref.
Jesus Christ that's a lot of Overdose.
Looks like you're overdosing on Overdoes.
sorry.
Best part of whole thread
*overdoses
http://i.imgur.com/Da8FQiJ.png
huhhuh uhuhu huh uh u hu hu hu h uh u hhh
I bet you are buying those overdoses for 0.66 each.
already said this many time bought them at 0.66 ref when price was 0.33-0.66 ref and check my bp history when price came 0.66-1 ref didnt found much and i buy most of them at 0.77 ref also bulks too
It still looks like manipulation.
Even though you got the proof for 1 ref flat, it is a bit suspicious. Since you used an alt to raise stuff from your own backpack and get a better vote accurate.
So according to you, these guys are manipulators?
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/51fb66914bd7b80d08000015
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/5294b3d44dd7b8ce0a8b456e
http://backpack.tf/vote/id/52a8a4fc4dd7b8eb788b4568
http://backpack.tf/vote/?all=1&steamid=76561198064658655
Also why the hell do you care. If it's valid proof regardless of how many he owns, it is not manipulation.
Also fyi, he only voted on his alt once.
Sir, you need to calm down. This is normal. When a person breaks a law/rule almost everyone is going to question that person whether that person learned his/her lesson or not.
I myself voted on suggestions like this with no problem, I don't care whether the person owns 5000 or 0 or never owned that item. If the proofs are valid enough, it is good enough for me. This suggestion is raising questions only because of the user's very recent past which is absolutely normal in human nature.
>implying I was mad.
Give me an example of a 1 ref. trade that took at least 3 days, and i'll vote.
Because owning 132 Strange Overdoses is somehow acceptable.
COLLECTORS OVERDOSE
HL3 Confirmed
Lots of proof. UPVOTE FROM ME c:
2+2=
1. Bought for .66, when it was. 33-.66, attracting customers.
2. Solidified purchases by raising to .66.
3. Let market simmer, to the point .66-1.00 was acceptable.
4. Increases value by raising to a flat 1.00.
Even if the proof is good, which it is, this is still blatant manipulation.
this is bptf, nuff said.
- Good proofs
- Correct Facts
Market manipulation (speculation 100% legit) [Caused by the human nature], I must say good job on that one.
upvote