Suggestion: Strange Ambassador at 4.66–5 ref

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~5.22 ref

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I can finally do this right.

Will only post clean wepons (this means no parts / custom names or descriptions (which is actually retarded to consider as additional value) / sets of items / killstreak / australium weapons / ponies)

Let's take a look at classifieds:

[url]http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/9324/nhm8.jpg[/url]

- First one is sold at 4.33 ref, but took a fair amount of time

- Second one is still in his backpack, even after 4 days - posted at 4.66 ref

- Third one sells multiple for 4.88 each, I have no idea of how many he sold

- There are unsolds at 5 ref for up to 6 days. (screencap doesn't show this, but go ahead and search for them)

Other trading sites:

Under 4.66:

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16355720[/url] - sold for 4 ref, confirmation: [url]http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/203/p7z1.jpg[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16352654[/url] - posted at 3 ref, confirmation: [url]http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/3201/vp9j.jpg[/url] (user was not online but trade.tf doesn't lie :D)

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16332896[/url] - posted at 4 ref, see this: [url]http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/5766/kjw5.jpg[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16329387[/url] - failed to sell at 4.66 ([url]http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/7119/vwgo.jpg[/url]), reposted below

╚═══ [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16331380[/url] - sold quick at 4 ref ([url]http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/7894/rvjw.jpg[/url])

[url]http://tf2tp.com/trade.php?trade=9935312[/url] - sold at 4 ref or s. quick-fix (3.33)

4.66 Ref:

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16371007[/url] - posted at 4.66, has an offer of 4 from a quickbuyer

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16360177[/url] - posted at 4.66, has been up for 13 hours, bumped 3 times

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16356225[/url] - sold for 4.66 in 3 hours

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16335975[/url] - went for 4.66, trade was on autobump for 8 hours

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16335495[/url] - sold for 4.66, trade was open for a day (seller was rude enough to delete me right after I asked him how long did it take for him to sell it... so no confirmation here)

[url]http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5899/29w4.jpg[/url] - went for 4.66

4.66-5

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16352046[/url] - 4.77, not in his bp anymore

+ the one on classifieds that sells multiple

5 Ref:

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16353523[/url] - sold for 5 ref after 6 hours of regular bumping, confirmation: [url]http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/843/0tps.jpg[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16333426[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16367646[/url] - not in his backpack, not sure if it really went for 5

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16367646[/url] - same thing here

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16363926[/url] - after many reposts in classifieds, Duscoda posted his/her on tf2outpost and managed to sell it

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16354583[/url]

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16351888[/url]

Unsold @ 5 ref

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16364076[/url] - Unsold, trade was closed

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16362982[/url] - Up for 10 hours but unbumped...

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16360991[/url] - 11 hours with 4-5 bumps

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16360776[/url] - 12 hours

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16359393[/url] - closed after 14 hours, still in his bp

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16371522[/url] - his second trade after he failed to sell it for 11 hours on autobump

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16357009[/url] - up for 16 hours, bumped 3 times

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16356460[/url] - up for 16 hours, bumped more times than the previous

Not sure:

[url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16353340[/url] - posted at 5 ref, item history shows that it was traded to a quickbuyer who pays 4.33

Any proof/counter is welcome.

Had a trade open for a week at 5 ref with no luck at all. Managed to get rid of it after putting it in a raffle. Upvote.

Seems like that was just you considering me and several otehrs have had success selling at 5 ref in less than a day.

Agreed, the last time I put a s. amby up for 5 ref a few days ago, 4 people added me to buy it, lol.^^

Yeah it only took me about 40 minutes to sell mine for 5 ref through classifieds

downvote. this still sales at 5 ref and none of your 4,66 trades are older than a day (therefore qs) and this applies to 5 ref unsolds as well. it takes some time to sell, if you dont want to wait I buy them for 4 ref

http://puu.sh/5M8AA.png

http://puu.sh/5M8Dp.png

5.33 sales (few weeks old)

That counterproof is way too old.

First one is alright. But the second is too old.

I know it s kinda old. Just saying if selling a rec above bp.tf took me 2-3 days therefore selling at normal price cant be that difficult. and I m not a lucky seller and dont have autobump

Barley few links at below 4.66 (ALL quicksells)

Your 4.66 links:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16356225 - Sold without a bump (quicksell)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16335975 - Sold in few hours, less than a day, fast but not too fast

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16335495 - Sold without a bump (quicksell)

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5899/29w4.jpg - Unknown time

So your proof, conclusions: about 99% of links are quicksells

Counter-Proof:

SOLDS at 5:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16336514 - Less than a day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16335662 - Less than a day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16325572 - Less than a day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16345652 - Less than 20 hours

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16345658 - Less than 20 hours

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16351431 - Less than 10 hours

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16345966 - Less than 3 hours

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16351888 - Less than 2 hours

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16354583 - Without a bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16334394 - Without a bump

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16348667 - 6 ref, less than 17 hours

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16334532 - 1 key, less than a day

I can probably find some more

since your proof of anything below 5 is mostly quicksells, which shouldn't affect price, and the fact I've shown how easy it sells for 5, I mean look how fast it goes, 5 flat is probably a better price

EDIT:

The part above is copy paste of my counter-proof the the one who stole your proof

Since you added a link at 4.77, some at 4.66, solds at 5 and unsolds at 5 I'll also comment about them

Under 4.66:

100% quicksells, shouldn't affect price, bla bla bla

At 4.66:

(there are 4 links that are older, so above has covered them up)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16371007 - Young and unbumped, could've probably sold by now if was bumped, still not valid SELLER at 4.66

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16360177 - Same as above, it was bumped once though

If you have some quicksells at 4.66 it doesn't mean it should be in price, if you have enough sales and SELLERS, that doesn't take 1 sec to sell it should be in price

Right now you have 0 sellers and 99% quicksells off of 5 or 6 links...

At 4.66 - 5:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16352046 - Sold without a bump (quicksell)

Solds at 5:

(if anything matches my counter-proof he took it from me btw)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16353523 - Not unsold, closed it after few hours though, not valid unsold if anyone thinks (not you, the suggester, others)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16333426 - Sold in less than a day

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16363926 - Sold in 8 hours

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16351888 - Sold in less than 2 hours

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16367646 - Sold without a bump (you have this link twice)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16354583 - Sold without a bump

Again, if anything matches my counter-proof I found it first, you can find it in a closed suggestion by someone else (recent one)

Even you show it's selling REALLY fast at 5

Unsolds at 5:

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16364076 - Sold without a bump (he has a DIFFERENT one in his backpack, check ID's, kills)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16362982 - Young and unbumped, this ISN'T a valid unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16360991 - Young and poorly bumped, this ISN'T a valid unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16360776 - Sold in less than 14 hours

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16359393 - Was opened for 2 hours, this ISN'T a valid unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16371522 - Sold in less than 3 hours

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16357009 - Young and poorly bumped, this ISN'T a valid unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16356460 - Same as above ^^

Conclusion:

Under 4.66 = 100% quicksells

At 4.66 = 99% quicksells

At 4.66 - 5 = 1 link that is a quicksell

At 5 = mostly fast sold links

Unsolds at 5 = either sold fast or invalid unsold

You don't have enough sales and sellers at below 5 or valid unsolds at 5 to prove 4.66

Thanks for the time and effort you've put in for expaining these things, and sorry for that double link, I haven't noticed :S

4.66 is a quicksell, I've been uncrating lots of these and selling them at 4.66.

Must have sold 15+ at 4.66 in the past few days. As well as some at 4.77 and 4.88

Young but bumped: [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16376617[/url] - selling @ 4.88

Sold after 5 hours of regular bumping..

http://puu.sh/5NN1C.png

http://puu.sh/5NN3Y.png Valuing knife at 2.33

http://puu.sh/5NN96.png

Hope this helps! :)

I doubt they had no parts at those prices.. but I don't know

wake up mods. time to close this

I saw a few sellers below actual price in a short period of time and I thought it was bound to drop and this suggestion would be good. I also thought I could find more proof in the meantime. I was obviously wrong this whole time. People are happy with the price of 5 ref and are not ready to give up on it. My proof proved to be quicksells so I'm gonna close this and try to make a better one next time. I believe that we learn from mistakes, if not from our own, from others.