Suggestion: The B.M.O.C. at 13 keys

Ummm, just to let you know, you can't use modified items in a proof (e.g. painted, gifted, re-named, etc) as backpack list items for unmodified items only.

But don't take my word for it -> http://i.imgur.com/rIYP1R5.png (second sentence)

Good luck on your suggestion ♪.

B-b-but black ;_;

Actually it doesnt affect the suggestion i was looking in outpost and notice the flooded market of sellers of BMOC at 14 keys and was trying to point out that 14 keys its really hard to sell even if your BMOC had a nice paint like white or black.

Thanks!

I know it seems silly and 'illogical' but rules are rules as they say?

But don't worry, if there's not that many unpainted in the market @ 14 keys, the moderator assessing this suggestion will take that into consideration ;)

All your proof of 13 unsold are sold...

because 13 keys its the most common price to sell a bmoc , 14 its too hard nowadays.

btw

sold for 12 keys + 2 ref

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16463686

sold for 13 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16464121

sold for 1 bills + 7 keys = 13 keys in items

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16470663

Painted are fine if they are below the range and still unsold like the black at 13, since most people value paints as a bit extra.

wrong. check my all father suggestion.

Sold an unpainted one for 6 keys + 12.66 ref + 3 trading cards + TS Bill's in under two hours. (14.5 keys)

Proof: http://imgur.com/bHNxrx3

I have to go, but I may look over your proof when I get back

Anybody knows, that we are moving to Christmas Sale. So, ppl trying to get as many keys as they can. So, we see temporal drop because of large increase of offers number.

Or you can just see it as the hype for christmas bringing it up but as christmas draws closer people realise it will be worth alot less right after so they they sell for cheaper to get rid of it.

Very lucky to sell mine for a gifted massed flies noble. I had a trade with my B.M.O.C for 14 when it was valued at 15 keys and had no adds. Upvote.

last price accepted 5hours ago

eeh ?

Yeah , a bit outrageous but the unsolds and adds at 13 keys support the suggestion.

righty , but u bp.tf suggesters should just make prices for unpriced stuff . not on these fucking pom-poms :3

13 keys is pretty easy to sell.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16441542

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16440606

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16436772

Gold one took a bit longer but all 3 were sold very quickly (1 plain, 1 gold, 1 pink)

I will also note that I was buying at 12 keys yesterday.

My main issue with this proof is that none of your 14 key unsolds have autobump.

I sold 7 BMOCs in the last 24 hours, since I logged off last night.

4 for 14 keys(1 with a bill's valued at 6 keys), 2 for unusuals (Searing Plasma Football helmet 1:1, Nuts and Bolts Electric Escorter after I added 1 key and 1.33 ref)

I also got a great offer on mix of items which included a genuine strangified Merc's Pride Scarf, Bill's Hat, 2 ToD Tickets and 1 Squad Surplus Voucher(around 18 keys in value).

These hats are in demand at 14 keys, in fact I turned down some great item offers as well, out of desire to save some for pure purchasers.

PROOF: http://imgur.com/r1e5AFH

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/52023e4eba25367a0400000f

you have 2 unsold bmoc in classifieds for 14 keys posted 16 hours ago

If they are in demmand why didnt you sold them yet? and the market its flooded with 14 keys almost all the trades selling at that price are unsold.

Because those are the ones I listed that haven't sold, the ones I've sold have been removed, or were not among the listed ones. The only other ones are my black and spectral spectrum BMOC which I am not selling.

I had 14 BMOCs to begin with, and didn't even list them here until 16 hours ago, since I forgot and didn't seem to need much assistance getting buyers.

Im staying firm as the fact that there are some "quicksell" unsold bmocs for 13 keys are still in the market.

Then you need to include a range, as it has been shown that it is possible, in fact easy, to sell for 14 keys.

If there are plenty of failed willing sellers at 14 that i almost want to cry , and some trades at 13 keys unsold i dont see why it should be 13-14 keys.

I sold 7 in 24 hours. I have autobump. you assumed I hadn't sold any because I had 2 listed. You do not have access to other individual's trade histories and can't verify their sales if they are selling multiples, my trade listing is unchanged since it's posting though I have sold much of my inventory, people that have bought BMOCs at the height of their value are holding on to them for christmas, not looking to sell them at a loss, shortly after purchasing for the seasonal rate, people that still have BMOCs will likely drive the price up before christmas as opposed to dropping the price further before the holiday and christmas update, while available supplies decrease.

^This is a list of reasons why you might want to examine your price suggestion.

Honestly I think it should remain 14-15, just off how easy 14 was to get, and the offers I got for items. Had I listed mine for 15, I'm sure I could have gotten at least a couple sales, but that is purely speculation.

" I "

One person doesnt represent the entire market

"14-15 keys "

Oh well , i cant discuss that.

One person does not represent them, but one person that has been dealing exclusively with BMOCs within the last 48 hours has a good feel for it, and my evidence stands on its own.

I don't need to represent the entire market, with such a large inventory of this item, my trade history is a better market indicator than your speculation.

MORE PROOF(sold one this morning, before heading out to work): http://imgur.com/9Vx7wf0

I sold mine for a Steaming Pure Tin yesterday. Sold the Pure Tin for 17 keys the same day. :)

...please don't make me post screenies, I don't have the time...

Anyways, my opinion is, it's easy enough to sell in the current range. People want to buy it, but are discouraged by the constant red-arrow on Backpack. As soon as the Christmas update hits, these things will be rolling like hotcakes, mark my word. :)

Until then, plenty of proof to support both this suggestion and the current price. Maybe re-suggest with a range?

btw I am all sold out, selling at 14 keys, each.

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/520048c74bd7b8982e000008

For the convenience of buyers , there are some unsolds at 13 keys in classifieds and flooded with 14 keys sellers likewise

For the record, not many people stop to peruse the classifieds. Often the listings are outdated, and the sellers decline friend requests before they even know why you are there. OP and Bazaar are much more reliable, showing quickly and easily what goes for what.

This makes me happy that i sold mine for about 16 keys a while ago C:

I want the B.M.O.C and so do many others but we just don't have the stuff to pay for it (in reply to "Nobody want this little pom pom hat")

And as the price goes down more people are able to purchase it thereby creating bigger demand and stabilizing the price at some as yet undetermined price.

how about i just buy 20% of them so you guys can't afford?

Lol. it's not my problem whether people can Afford them i was just pointing out that as the price shifts downward demand will increase. I've bought and sold a decent number of BMOCs in the last week or so for varying prices.

Or, you could be an unusual noh mercy and say "fuck logic."

viciously searches for the mouse to plug in to the computer to upgoat this post. Nice proof.

Though your suggestion proves that 14 key hats are damn hard to sell, still you need to show sales at 13 keys to justify your suggestion. Sales or Unsolds at 13, anything would do.

Since your bored, I do not think this as a problem for you.

actually, not hard at 14 keys. I sold out of 14 bmocs within 48 hours, 10 at 14 keys each, the other four for significant item overpay. proof from earlier is listed, above. though I agree this suggestion needs modification, unless it can be shown it is not possible to sell for 14 keys without severe difficulty

Great. I still wonder why is it taking so long for those people in the links above to sell their hats for 14 keys? They are jinxed, perhaps !!

Trade severs, perhaps? Those who work hard sell quick, and those who just bump their trades every ten hours sell NEVAR.

Just speculation, tho.

Please view my 3 sold hats above.

Sales at 13 or 14 keys.

13-14 sounds like a good range to me.

Sounds fine to me. I'm not sure how long the 14 key sales will continue though

we are not supposed to be voting on what we think the market will do, but record what the market is reflecting, currently. just a reminder.

I haven't voted ;).

I was mostly just remarking that if this gets left up for much longer than a day it seems unlikely that 14 keys will be selling any longer.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16125166

Last time i checked his bp he didnt had those 12 keys + the uncraft hi 5 , the trade says he was selling for "14" but seems that he did for 12 keys + a uncraft hi 5 taunt = 13 keys , took 2 weeks though

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Offered his BMOC for 13 keys

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16015887

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Offered his BMOC for 13 keys (2)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/13991795

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Selling his BMOC for 84 refined , 84/6,55 = 12.84 (even lower than 13)

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16464879

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Anoter seller for 13

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/5237e4b24dd7b862618b4567

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Quite recent , http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16462215

13 keys + 4 ref , and unsold .. some traders are willing to sell it for less and some of them are failling even.

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I will get you more proof asap

why do u waste so much space for 6 links?

I have no idea

no one wants this hat ? pah i think this hat is one of the most wanted hat in that game and i love this pom pom hat

facts>opinion

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/520048c74bd7b8982e000008

4 in classifieds at 13 keys

and 1 now for 12 keys + 5 ref....yeah, I see your point.

you don't need to leave a space after every link.

Okay , ill take it in consideration for future suggestions. Aprecciate your opinion

no problem,~~glad~~ to help

Well.. I sold my B.M.O.C painted black + some sweets (not worth a lot) for steaming whopee cap.. :x

I want this little pom pom hat but I can't afford it. :c

Maybe I will in a few months.

Looks good, uppoat.

BUT CHRISTMAS IS COMING

Not sure if trolling but it's going to be worth jack all after so people are selling it off now.

btw was a reference to the REPETITIVE opening phrase in all those suggestions of items related to this festivity. I sold my B.M.O.Cs when they peaked to 17 keys

Classifiends updated until this moment.

http://backpack.tf/classifieds/search/id/520048c74bd7b8982e000008

3 for 12.7 keys

6 for 13 keys

Oh my.

12.5 keys? He knows it is coming.

Many your 14 key "unsolds" are sold. I think it will be better, if you resuggest it with 13-14 keys.

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16445723

> Unsold for 2 days at 13 keys , bumped some minutes ago

actually the first link "selling for 14" lowered its price to 13 keys and sold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16448255

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16360704

my sixth "link "selling for 14" lowered its price to 13 keys and sold

my seventh link lowered its price to 13 , still unsold though

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16437348

Lowered its price to 13,5 unsold

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16418033

http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16388421

Unknown for how much he sold for.

You have to investigate a bit more sherlocks.

a few of the unsolds at 14 have changed to 13 and sold, some of them havent

and i think the 3rd link sold for 14, cause he dosent have one in is bp

Most of the completed sales from the unsolds section reduced their price from 14 to 13 in order to sell. There are at least as many sales happening under 13 as there are more than 13 atm.