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A good chunk of sellers for 12-13 keys in the classifieds. Also there are a lot of people selling between 16-20 keys on tf2outpost, so that's why there isn't much proof compared to the amount of trades.
Selling for 12 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16573001
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16575302
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16551902
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16563118
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16562073
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16565987
http://bazaar.tf/trade/596492
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16368934 Selling 2.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16501340 "12 - 13 keys". Painted.
Selling for around 12.5 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16576225 "12.5 - 13 keys.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16545121 12.3 keys. Painted.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16537431 12.7 keys.
Selling for 12.9 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16569311 Painted.
I know you go by the rules, but just use common sense, if there people still selling at 12 keys, why would he need to provide unsolds at 13?
Dont need unsolds as 13 is still in the range...he's adding a conservative range due to the number of sellers between 12-13
Right, my bad
Good proofs.
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Rising the gear up.
All the sellers have sold their B.M.O.C.'s. D:
12 keys is DEFINITELY a quicksell now
http://screencast.com/t/L07TqEdKUo
http://screencast.com/t/5xu8Uy4T1rX
Have to Downvote
It's not the point of quick selling but frequency.
I dunno . . all but 1 of your links have sold.
Sold mine for 12 rather quick - http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16536834
Well this hat is always going to sell quick. I have seen someone sell their b.m.o.c quickly for 1 bud. tf2outpost can sometimes be an unusual place where mysterious events occur.
someone? more than five people selling for a bud...its ridiculous!
I sold for a 1.1 bud unusual... that was six days ago, tho.
My feeling is, this is mostly stingy people trying ta drop the price so they can afford it. But that's just my opinion. I'm gonna keep selling at one bud, regardless of what this price gets set to.
The one you sold went on to sell for 12 keys + 4.66: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16537431
And then for 13: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16560288
#profit
It's funny - outpost votes on a price, the scammers/quicksellers/hijackers sell for lil less - then some sheep sees it and suggests new price - keeps going down till it reaches ''mass buy'' mode - opportunists buy them all up and as the supply shrinks - the value rises, rinse repeat... yawn, sheep - Bah Bah,
Did you just call me a sheep?
He offended me too. :c
As much as it makes sense, it's highly unlikely. Just name 3 instances where this has happened.
You want evidence for this year or the past 1s ? :P
In the opposite direction: Keys.
I love you
You need a time out for name calling, mister.
I did not sell mine for 16 key or for decent unusuals. What makes you people think it should be worth less :P
what do you mean "you people" ?
If the market is "full" of counterproof, would you care to share them?
The difference is that you're just mouthing off and he has links to back it up. You're not going to go to a court and just say what you think without evidence right? If you're lazy and cant be bothered to back up your claims then dont have a random soap opera about how many there are in existence and manipulation.
Thanks
Because of users like you which dont give counters nor offer constructive criticism is why the mods might accept as my guess is that the votes are correct, proof is sufficient enough and no counterproof was given.
One link below isnt enough counter. Also bmoc is probably the worse investment to hold on to atm as always right after christmas it drops and becomes a hard sale.
If fair trades happen then no one would trade. if you happen to make a bad trade live with it and keep trading or just not trade at all. There is no "proper way" to make profit. profit is binary it's either profit or a loss.
"price manipulation"... "all of your ruin my backpack value daily"... You're the one trying to manipulate prices, just... get out.
Besides, more proofs.
Buying at 12 keys:
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16600545
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16620174
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16625397 - Items for bmoc, says pure offer will be 12 keys. Item offer is about 12 keys.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11839932 - Selling a bud, accepts a bmoc as 12 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16615665 - Selling a max's, accepts a bmoc as 12 keys
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16534113 - That's 5 keys + 2 painted essential accessories (unpainted 3.5-3.75 keys), between the paint and overpay in items, that's about fair.
All I could find so far, as most trades buying bmoc's are quickbuyers who are also buying vintage lugers, buds,big kills, bills hats, and max's in the same trade, all for considerably lower prices.
I can't find any more, all the trades seem to be bumping at the same time, I'll move 5 pages forward and get trades I already looked at.
If you want proof of quickbuyers buying for less, just ask me.
Please keep comments in these suggestions to those relevant to proving or disproving the suggested range. Complaining without backing proof is just comment spam.
damn its just a video game calm down ppl XD
Oy vey goyim! Nice to see you private Shekelberg
goy are hilarious - just like IRL they bankrupt themselves and feed the criminals
Being a Jew doesn't give you the right / make it okay to make anti-semitic comments
I've sold several in the last couple days at 13 keys with no issues. Guess we'll see how low B.M.O.C's can fall.
Good proof. Upvote from me.
Uh-oh, 12 keys is starting to sell fast, I think I hear a train coming . . nah
Edit: I think all your sellers are sold I checked some randomly.
This suggestion has been open for around 1 day and pretty much every trade is sold by this time with the b.m.o.c for whatever price.
But there are so many sellers for 12 keys (sold or not) which means if you were to scroll through outpost I guarantee you would find a seller for 12 keys in the first 5 or so pages.
Yeah I can't find a seller for 12 keys
just sold unpainted bmoc for orbit fire cappo and painted siberian ~ 18-19 keys.
gg - all 12-13 key sellers = scammers or sharks or hijackers - keep lending them a hand kiddies - the next victim is you!
honestly, if you kids keep downvoting this im just going to wait till 11-12 keys and mass buy them via paypal and resell - thanks in advance for being horrible at markets and commerce kiddies! this is how you end up with a mortgage irl :)
Outlier.
But, Christmas is coming :(
Upvote
Bought a painted one for 13 yesterday, it was ugly pink so restored asap
Counter proof just to show Im not lazy :P
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16623519 (It adds up to +- 15 key)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16487119 (+-13 key)
Anything less then 13 keys is basically a quicksell.
First link is an outlier, the second link is not necessary because 13 keys is still in the range, neither disprove this suggestion
Then what is the point of counter proof if noone cares?
Before this suggestion it was so easy to sell the hat for 13 keys, now it is impossible. Thanks.
shit happens, u know?)
Um...enjoy trying to sell this hat after christmas, reason why everyone is dropping their price
inb4 every one says the price is going to go up during christmas
surprise =D
none at 12 on classifieds tho.
Sorry DownVote no more 12 keys 13 keys are now up expect a rise soon.
http://bazaar.tf/trade/592032 Just sold mine for 14 mixed. On top of that you only have a few 12 key sellers (all which have sold already.) Downvoting.
funny, merry xmas
Do I sense jehovah witnesses? I believe I do.
http://i.imgur.com/6lEzKZd.png
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16674807
Sold mine rather quick for 12 Keys
Strong concerns that 12 keys is a quicksale throughout the comments, with numerous additional links demonstrating as such. Looks like 12 keys should remain out of range.