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Genuine Short Circuit
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Sorry for constantly ressugesting , but as soon as price updates , hype goes even higher.


This is a big jump , but people really want this item , and so the price rocketjumps.


1.00 became impossible and 1.33 is pretty much quicksell.


----------------------------SELLERS-----------------------


1 page in tf2outpost


Not price set


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16283482 (Got offered 1.33)


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15613713 (Someone offers 1.33 and he says he wants 2 ref , then someone offers 2 ref and another guy offers 1 KEY)


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14339918 (Many offers , first 0.66 , then 1.33 , then 1.44 and then 1.66)


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15977760 (Wants dota2 stuff , but some1 offers 1.33)


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16549698 (People offer 1.44 , then 3 ref and then 1 key (Same guy from before))


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16563655 (Rejects 1.33 and then someone offers 2 ref and another guy offers a festive sandvich (2.33 ref))


1.33


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/11746683 (2 people interested within 15 hours)


----------------------------BUYERS----------------------


2 pages in tf2outpost. This just proves how high the hype is , where there is more demand than supply. There was only 1 page when i made the last suggestion.


There is an insane amount of 1.00 buyers , yet only 1 person succeded


Buying for 1.33


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16649677 (Bumps a lot , nobody offers or accepts)


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16636217 (Unbumped)


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16627673 (Unbumped)


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16627171 (Unbumped)


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16590805 (Unbumped)


Buying for 1.22


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16625022 (Bumped often , nobody offers or accepts)


Buying for 1.11


http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16577741 (Bumped often , nobody offers or accepts)


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So by judging in the amount of people willing to buy at 1.33 unsuccessfully , and the offers at 2+ ref , i guess 1.66-3 ref seems accurate because lower than that , barely any sale happens , and people is willing to offer within this range.

    good proof. UPVOTE

      dont ya think this range too huge? 1.33 ref differ when we talking about several ref price is really big)

        I think its better having such range rather than 1.66-2.00 and then have to ressugest 2.00-3.00 5 hours after price gets accepted

          nice rise-bp-price blietzkrieg =DDD

          U gonna achive from 0.66 to 5 refineds in several days ?))

            Don't ask me, ask the hyped buyers.

              Sorry, but I see only urs suggestions (3 for several days) and ur bp =D

                And how is that related to anything actually?

        The one that got a 3 ref then 1 key offer has both a name change and description change so not too sure how valid it could be considered since its like using painted items to change a hats price.

          solid proofs upboat

            That's a huge jump of a price range, but I also don't see any proof of 3 ref as a successful price.

              There is not much proof of being expanded to 3 refined, downvote, sorry.

                You know, I think what's funny is that a lot of down votes may have just arose from your comment. LOL. Though I do agree that 3 ref is a little too high. I'd suggest 2.33 at the highest. Even 2.33 is a bit queer.

                Big jump? You should've seen the Scotch Bonnet.

                  Not enough proof for 3 ref, downvote sorry

                  i kid you not, i barely sold this shit piece 2-3 days b4 the update for 0.66

                  and was selling it for like 2 weeks at that price -.-

                    same feeling have s. Diamondback sellers, who sold it b4 hype for 0.33 refineds))

                      R.I.P English

                          That wasn't directed to you.

                          why ? because i didn't use any punctuation marks,or because i wrote "b4" ?

                          i think (or better, i hope) you are mentally able to read that sentence,as i see other members could without problems.


                          edit: so i would rather direct you on your lack of reading skills...and bad manners.

                            "i kid you not i barely sold this shit piece"


                            Please explain me what were you trying to say there , because i have no idea what it was supposed to be. Thats why i said R.I.P


                            Edit : And you shouldn't be so aggresive towards people who can't understand what you wrote based on such poorly redaction.

                              "i'm not joking by any means,but i barely sold this item"


                              is this,any more clear to you... or should i simplify more ?


                              i'm referencing how this was hard to sell,before the update,and that i barely sold it for the now laughable amount of 0.66

                                I really didnt understand that sentense too.

                                  great,lets all waste time on that now

                                    Yeah this is pointless , end of discussion.

                          If it makes you feel any better, I understood your comment fine ;-;

                        new quick fix

                          Pretty much , I really liked the old short circuit more because it required skill to counter demospam , and was much more satisfactory.


                          Whatsoever a nerf will come soon , I main engineer and by using this gun I was able to stood in front of 6 players at mid-range barely getting injured. You become inmune to demoman , soldier , hunstman and long range pyros. They can only shotgun/smg/melee you and the only thing that can kill you at mid/long range are heavies and snipers. And also the only way to kill sentry nests now is sap+heavy über , and sapping isnt easy with good pyros.

                          Aw why does these things always happen to me i literally sold bunch of strange diamond backs and a genuine short circuit 1 - 2 days the update same thing happened to me during quickfix buff D:

                            That happened to you as it has happened to some other people.


                            Me on the other hand had a strange diamondback with critical parts for some reason. I never used it and i was lazy to sell it. But after the update i ended up selling it for 2.5 keys before hype started dying.

                            I'm happy igot my craft #21 one for 1 ref now :3

                              Pretty fair proof, not to mention hype.

                                If multiple people willing to pay even higher than this price this should raise.


                                  *sees grammar pissing match in comments*


                                  *gets popcorn*


                                  Upvote from me. gOod prOoFE

                                    I love hype xD

                                      Just sold 1 for a key. Upboat!

                                      [url]http://s11.postimg.org/l57pp1r77/Proof.png[/url]

                                      [url]http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16712357[/url] <- Trade about it, sold it for a key before anyone bothered to even offer in 4 hours.

                                        Why the dislike? I sold it for a key and there's the proof.

                                        Meh. I don't really like this tbh.


                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15613713 - only offered so high because everyone is being a highballer (he even said so himself basically, even so you obviously have proven it can be found for lesser.)


                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16549698 - Named and Desc. reference to a Star_ video.


                                        http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16563655 - sold to someone else, he just hasn't taken it down yet. it turned into a bidding war for no reason.


                                        Everything else is okay I guess. Range is way too high though. I think it's gonna be a downvote from me.

                                          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/15613713 - only offered so high because everyone is being a highballer (he even said so himself basically, even so you obviously have proven it can be found for lesser.)


                                          If you mean the 1 key offer , i clearly didnt take it on mind or tried to prove anything with it , what i used is the 2 ref offer , which isnt a highball at all.


                                          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16549698 - Named and Desc. reference to a Star_ video.


                                          I guess so , but offers are still there proving the hype


                                          http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16563655 - sold to someone else, he just hasn't taken it down yet. it turned into a bidding war for no reason.


                                          Yet the offer is still there which means people is willing to pay such prices

                                            What exactly proves 3 ref though other than "hype"? The 3 ref offer is on the renamed/re-description item and then there is the one guy who offers 1 key but should really be considered an outlier since no other offers come near that.

                                              Names/descriptions add 0 value, no one ever pays more for a name/desc. that's like saying people actually pay more for gifted tags.

                                                I don't get how something that would normally cost a couple refined to do to an item could be said to never add value to an item. Like I understand if someone came up to me saying they wanted to buy something in item overpay I would not consider any re-names/descriptions for value but if I wanted to buy an item I definitely wouldn't mind paying a rec or two more for a rename I actually like especially if its a medigun.

                                                  That's actually not true, I've sold some of my stranges pretty quickly for 1 ref over the normal price just because it had a name...but it depends on if the name is good or not, gift tags can't be removed while names can, and that Short circuit was a reference, making it considered a good name.

                                                  Proof below us seems quite supporting though, upvote

                                            http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16671015 (Offers of 3.33 ref)

                                            http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16662307 (Offers a Sandvich safe strangifier (1.5keys - 2 refined = 9 refined)

                                            http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16694954 (Buying for 2 refined , bumped constantly , unsuccessful for 1 day)

                                              Market is 3-3.33 ref\$.90 - $1.00.

                                                the proofs good....but bloody hell 1.66-3 ref!? im sorry dude the range is to big, if this got past i can imagine the profit. sorry man downvote :'C

                                                  How about trying again when ya dont have one? Mmkay? also, i think the sellers are probably trying to get a quick buck, not fairly trade.

                                                    http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16549698 (People offer 1.44 , then 3 ref and then 1 key (Same guy from before))

                                                    has been used desc tag and name tag on it just saying

                                                      and i think thats ur only offer that showing ur high range 3 ref i dont see any thing else at 3 ref

                                                      so intersted to see what happen in the end

                                                        2 sellers in classifieds, 1 for 1 key and the other guy thinks he can get 2 keys for it. Lol.

                                                          Besides the 3 ref part, seems to be good. We all know how the Baby Faces Blaster hype happened in an instant. and this is no different. Upvote.

                                                            What a silly price range, with very little proof at sales like that. Downvote.

                                                              Please take in mind the proof is 4 DAYS old , check the comments for more proof i've been adding before blindly downvoting

                                                                Haha this is awesome. I'm sitting on 28 of these bad boys. I used to collect 'em for the lol's, I never thought it would payoff...

                                                                  Before You start farming this, thinking in few months it will be worth a Bill's, please understand: this is only a short term hype. Not a trend.

                                                                    These things will soon die off, But it is funny to kill someone with it :p

                                                                      jesus fuck this suggestion is downvote heaven


                                                                      downvoted, way too high of a price jump

                                                                      Won't lie. This suggestion is too much of a gap in price. I would recommend 1.66~2 ref to be a better alternative.


                                                                      The main reason why many people wants the short-circuit is because of the revamp they did on it. If you're on a server that has unlimited ammo feature, then you're going to have a glorified day of spamming the ever-living shit out of it. It's a broken weapon on those servers, so maybe that's the reason of their increased in price.

                                                                        1.66 and 2 ref are quicksells nowadays

                                                                          I admit. I don't play around with stuff past strange. But, I think 3 ref as max is a bit overboard.

                                                                        A few weeks ago Who would say what a Short Circuit's suggestion would have so many votes...

                                                                          Votes are split, though leaning on the positive side. If I were to base this on the original proof, I'd be closing this. However, the extra proof provided over time sufficiently proves the high end. To address the issues in the comments: The range is wide, but that is not uncommon for items like this that see a sudden jump in demand. There was indeed initially insufficient proof of high end, this was rectified as proof continued to be provided over the past couple of days. One trade had tags that may increase value, but the price point continued to be proven across other trades that did not have tags.


                                                                          Accepting.