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Counting overpay of 0.9
Trade 1 (Mine)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16334773
Bought for 6 buds, 22 keys, 13 refined and a dirty black balloonicorn = ~7.5
Trade 2 (unrecorded)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/37994
Appears to have paid a Hearts Stash (6.1) + Smoking Kabuto (1.4) + 1 bud =8.4 (7.5 when factoring in overpay)
Trade 3 (still active)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16694218
Has received offers of a Demonflame Hallmark (unpriced), Beams Fro (5.9) + TF Logo Tower (3.1)= (9, 8.1 when factoring overpay), Hellfire AA (unpriced, has c/o of 9 pure) + Ghosts Coupe + 10 keys + item sweets (Unpriced, assuming to be 9 with overpay), Burning Swagman's if he adds (unsure, probably 9?)
Dat range...ew...
Please explain why.
1.3 bud range? Reason explained.
P.S.: 6 buds, 22 keys and 13 refined is not 7.5 buds, it's like 7.3
Wait, just noticed this. I don't see a sale at 8.8 buds...where does that come from? Range should be 7.3-7.5
It was paid when bud prices were 17 keys, hence the offer would equal 7.4 in pure, with the Balloonicorn covering the last key.
8.8 is to include the unusual offers that have been received recently. Range should have been 7.5-8.5, but due to the Swagman's, I cannot entirely say for sure. Hence 8.8 would be a little fair.
Trades 1 and 2 cover the low end with the last one covering the unusual offers.
Neutral. With overpay included (avg original price * 0.9) on the 2nd sale, that would be 8.8
Either sale could be an Outlier, but wouldn't know without another sale.
I've tried digging back for the other one that was being sold alongside Puddington's at that time, but I can't find it.
I think I forgot to mention that the Stash sale and my purchase happened in 2 different time frames.
My purchase was when buds were 17 keys. (Hence 7.5 pure)
The Stash sale, however, was very recent when buds were 19 keys. (Hence 6.1 should be fairly accurate)
Even if you were to take 6.6 or whatever, I'm fairly certain my range should be correct.
1st Gens deserve a raise. They've become mid-tier since this new overpriced shits appeared.
Proof seems fine as well, I've been following it a long time and surely needs a raise.
Upvote from me.
Sale #2:
Hearts Stash original price is 6.6 - 7, ~5.8 after overpay
Smoking Kabuto original price is 1.7 - 2.1, ~1.7 after overpay
Total Sale: ~8.5
Didn't check offers, doubt they get to be ~9 or 8 or whatever
Also you didn't use original prices so I doubt your pricing is correct
Again, where in the world did you pull those ranges from? :/
Read forums, such as how to make an unusual suggestion, you clearly need it, your suggestion is even worse than this one
Then you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
Oh, same logic as Python. Sigh.
Sigh?!
We have the "logic" of this site, there's a certain way things work and you can't play by your own rules and do whatever you want, you can but then you will never succeed
I tried to help you understand but apparently you don't want help, you'll learn it the hard way I guess
Then tell me first, where did you get 6.6 - 7, and 1.7 - 2.1?
Also, i'm not trying to pick a fight with you. Rather, i want to hear why you think my suggestion is horrible and hope you can tell me where exactly i went wrong, because i certainly don't see anything wrong with mine.
Also -
When buds are 17 Keys - Stash 6.6 -7
When buds are 19 Keys - You don't value them at 6.6-7 Buds again,
It doesn't matter how much buds were
First of all you have to use original prices, you go to the hat, you press stat and theere's a red line (shows how many exist) and a blue line (shows original price)
That's the original price
After you do that you do mid price, if you have to calculate overpay (the item was offered on what you try to price) you do mid price * 0.9, if the hat you try to price was offered, you just take mid price
The only time it matters how much buds were is when you have a trade in keys and you want to price it in buds, then you check what buds were at the time of the trade
I said yours is worse than this one because the 1 sale I did check was in matter of fact higher than this one stated it is and the pure + items sale is also higher than your range
My point is, you have to use original prices, calculate overpay when necessary and right now your is lower than this one and the sales this one have are higher than your range, making your suggestion incorrect
Thanks for the comment.
So now i'll ask - Why doesn't pricing of buds matter? You price an unusual with the pricing of its sales when buds are 17 keys. When buds fall again or so, wouldn't the hat get a free pricing rise? I would only think its logical to use current bud pricings since the currency fluctuations are proportional to the changing in unusual pricings on this web.
The first sale was 7.5, don't think there is anything wrong with that in this or my suggestion.
The second sale was, if i'm not wrong, the buyer offered on the tyrants. Buyer overpays, so i take his hats, take avg pricing and multiply by 0.9. If you meant that my suggestion was bad because of how i priced the duped hearts stash, i will admit that that was something I'm pretty unsure about.
The 7.5 sale is fine
Other is not
You didn't use original prices, if Tyrant was offered than no overpay should be applied in matter of fact
Buds prices DO NOT matter
Sorry, couldya link me to the page where they said bud prices doesnt matter? Can't seem to find it.
http://forums.backpack.tf/index.php?/topic/4350-new-rule-use-original-suggested-values-of-unusuals/
You have one sale at 7.5, and one at 8.5. Many of the offers on that one hat isn't priced yet, so it shouldn't be used as proof. Please resuggest with a corrected range.