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Yeah now we can suggest these. Most people is clueless about these items value.
Its for the Untradeable one , picture and name may be wrong , but its actually it.
Im going to base the price mostly on this trade : http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16852127
I added the guy and talked to him so he could tell me how much he paid for each crossbow. Its mostly the only reliable proof source since 90% of the crossbows are unsolds or have no reliable source of sold price.
Besides the confirmed solds , i barely found pure rejected offers , Gift wrap is valued as 1 key in both sides (3 keys + my wrap = 4 keys , 3 keys + your wrap = 2 keys)
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/12584558 (Rejects 2 keys (3 keys + your wrap))
http://puu.sh/6ayLb.jpg (2 of the sales of the guy i spoke about before , 2 of them sold for 3 keys + wrap)
More proof will be provided later of the same guy , his trade history pictures were not showing.
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/16070285 : First comment offered a Bill's for a pre wrapped one ( 1 month ago)
Also rejected 3 keys + wrap: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/10271156 , your collector bought one prewrapped for 3 keys though as he psoted there + as can be seen in the screenshot , so ~ 2 keys I think?
This user http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4656407 also sold his one to http://www.tf2outpost.com/user/39500 , so you could ask them what it sold for
Sells it for a normal version (3 ref) + wrap + 1 key: http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/14943100
First link : Killstreak , so its unvalid
Second link: The offer wasnt rejected , just unanswered. And my collector said he already got one , that doesnt mean he got it for 2 keys.
The last sentence link : Thats an offer , yet unaccepted.
About that guy , just added him , but he seems like a bp.tf hater lol
I mean it seems to me like he didn't pay a gift wrap for the first trade: http://puu.sh/6ayLb.jpg
He is telling me he did provide the wrap. Not the seller
Since virtually I buy all the untradable crossbows on the market, I'll in put here.
My prices have varied from 3 keys and I supply wrap to 2 keys and I supply wrap. I think in one case I got one for 1 key and my wrap.
In all of my trades (I have bought 9 of these) I have always supplied wrap, and I include that as there is no other way to get hold of these. See it as Postage and Packaging and you generally include that in your price when buying something
I will be giving more proof of my purchases once my Steam decides to work. But on average, I paid 3-4 keys for these items (and thats taking into account the gift wrap I had to buy.) This is what it should be priced at, in my opinion
EDIT: Looking back, I didnt supply the wrap in one purchase.
I agree. Should resuggest at 3-4 keys
Doing so.....
Im not understanding why the new price is gonna be 4 keys if they all sell for 3 keys
maybe because wrap is about a key?
I'm not sure, we should work this out before we start throwing around suggestions though.
You arent purchasing the wrap though, you are buying the crusaders
But what if the weapon is pre-wrapped as opposed to the buyer having to supply wrap?
It's a conundrum. I say we work it out in the forums first though.
Then go for it
All Prices on items that are untradable need to have a solid price w/out the cost of gift wrap. The gift wrap will probably always have a solid price of around a key. SO the only reason an item should be worth 1 key above whatever is the norm, is bc it is already wrapped. So the item is only being offered up to 3 keys, not more (well...), so the price on this item should be 3 keys solid/4 keys pre-wrapped.
No , here we price the item, not the wrapped item , if people is willing to pay 3 keys + the wrap , its 4 keys , not 3
Oh, Ok, I thought people were offering 3 keys On a pre-wrapped one, an item that should be worth 4 keys. So, my thinking, is that they offer on 3 keys w/out wrap. But ok, I understand the price now! Voted for yes!
http://www.tf2outpost.com/trade/4485751 he got offered 7 keys your wrap
I know , i saw that. But being 7 months old it becomes pointless.